Ryu vs Terry Bogard

Started by Sado2245 pages

ahem....recommended to TP, DSZ and Remulus.
Tiamat's quote:

The SF Eternal Translated version is influenced by Capcom of America
(Confirmed by Erik Ko of Studio Udon). So expect at least Vega to be
M. Bison, M. Bison to be Balrog, and Balrog to be Vega. And probably
ansatsuken to be shotokan (since that's what Udon had to use for the
comic). ...and possibly even worse changes but those are the confirmed
ones so far. Thanks to Vasili10 and several others, the plot guide
will try to track anywhere there's a significant deviation between
the English Street Fighter Eternal book and the Japanese one.

I think some people dislike how the guide includes too much
info, but it became such a hard task for me to figure out what to include
and what not to include (right down to trying to figure out what really
was an interpretation and what wasn't in some cases) that I ended up
deciding to include EVERYTHING.

also like i said I AM RIGHT ABOUT THE AGES

SF1 took place in 1987. Ryu's DOB is 1964.
do that math. if you can't
1987-1964=23

Don't mess with Sado-sama. the only mistake i made was that SFA3 didn't take place one year after SFA2 but around two years. Ryu was still 28 in it though and i was right and remulus you were wrong.

I am big. you're small
i am godtier. you are midtier.
i am terry fan. you are ryu fan.
i am smart. you are dumb.
i am right. you are wrong.
i rock. you...err...err...sing britney spears songs.
😄

~The Invincible, Sensible, Always Right, Kind And Cool Sado-sama

This is an outrage!

Tiamat is not more fact then Capcom employes. Tiamat's facts are equivalent to the calculations of other of SF fans.

I have an actual fact book>you listen to Tiamat!

Not only do I use SF Eternal Challenge, but I use Capcom Classics collection. They work for and with Capcom>Tiamat doesn't.

Until you make sence of yourself...I refuse to go on.

you missed the point, sherlock.
the point (aside from me being the coolest thing on god's blue earth 😉) was that SF eternal is by CAPCOM OF AMERICA which practically makes it a damn joke.

~The Invincible Sado-sama

Originally posted by Sado22
you missed the point, sherlock.
the point (aside from me being the coolest thing on god's blue earth 😉) was that SF eternal is by CAPCOM OF AMERICA which practically makes it a damn joke.

~The Invincible Sado-sama

I have the book in my damn hands... nowhere does it say Capcom of
America... the thing was Imported, and transladed directly. Sorry Sado, but this time Tiamat does NOT know what is in my hands. (certainly not the dredged up shit from '95)

Did you read what i posted DSZ?

~Sado

DSZ!
chair

Sorry Tiamat...but F**K what he says.

As DSZ said it is a direct import only translated and what it says is all fact.

You are the type of person who would want to know when Terry Bogard was born but you would ask and whole heartedly believe Andy when Terry is standing right in fron of you with the real ansewer.

Originally posted by Sado22
Did you read what i posted DSZ?

~Sado

Of course I did, why do you think I posted, but please read what I said to you... especially concerning Tiamat... not to mention I have the bloody thing in my hand...

One more thing..... HOW THE HELL DO YOU KNOW THAT I HAVE THE ONE MADE BY COA? It bloody well says it's from Capcom of Japan... nowhere does it say Capcom of America on it...

take it easy DSZ....last time you lost it and did the messatsu-gou-fart i had dive and then run for cover.
😆

as for what you said Remulus post answers that for you.

~The Invincible Sado-sama

*Does the Messatsu Gou Fart, but accidentally shits himself*

Dang, that chilli's murder

*goes to clean himself up*

Originally posted by Darkstorm Zero
*Does the Messatsu Gou Fart, but accidentally shits himself*

Dang, that chilli's murder

*goes to clean himself up*

😆 😂 🤣 Awe dude, that's even worst. I'm moving underground into my bomb shelter until the radiation clears.

*Does the Messatsu Gou Fart, but accidentally shits himself*
Dang, that chilli's murder
*goes to clean himself up*

😘
*ducks in time and lands up in remulus' bomb shelter*
remulus and i argue about terry/ryu till the radiation clears and a new generation of mutated Ryu and Terry fans are doing war!

~Sado

edit by request

Actually Brain, ill give you a last minor challenge:

- Wheter he is sub boss or not, you ALSO need to give cannonical proof that a certain character managed to defeat him in order to reach the boss.

- When you play Ryo and get past Tendo, you see Silber trowing another already defeated player: Rob Phyton.

- Both Gai and Silber have a rivality with Ryo. The same was translated into the KOF XI when they encounter.
- It was sold as a sequel even if they`ve got the age wrong. Happens with everyone of the original timeline, since KOF messed up the whole age gaps. If the same basic setting.

The last Garou game got some ages wrong as well. But the basic setting was the same, and so was the way it was sold.

1.Him being the sub boss is made very clear by the fact that he's the sub for everybody but himself. This isn't one of those things like MOTW where everybody has a different sub sub. Sub bosses don't reach the boss. They're the guy you beat to get to the boss. I'd have to get some kind of All about SNK book to prove Gai being in the finals beyond the shadow of a doubt. Even then they might not even speak on it because of the game's lack of success. Logic points to him being there because he's the hero of the series and it's an SNK game. My main point was that Ryo din't make it to the finals as usual. I'm using logic to hypothesize as to who did, but I'm not really concerned enough to investigate farther. I'm quite lazy. Do you know who was in the finals?

Sequel or not the game was a failure and had no sequels.

2. Can you please answer my questions that I asked you a loooong time ago? I'll quote them if you don't remember. Remember that we're not concerned w/Ryo's BI(Before Iori) career because it doesn't really make sense to compare the 2 and talk about events that happened b4 one of them got there.

3. I'm not sure what you had edited, but I'm guessing it was inappropriate. If I've posted anything that may seem out of line it's only a response to you putting words in my mouth(Seriously, I have 5 nonbosses beating Terry. If I thought he sucked, I wouldn't have him beating the dozens of characters that are not amongst that 5 since I like almost all of them waaaaaaaay more than Terry. I never imply or sugercoat anything mane. Brainchild just don't give a f**k!!! Ask my blood brother PG, TP Rem or anyone else. I always post what I think. If I thought Terry sucked I'd say it as I did in the distant past and as I continue to say about Ryo.) or just flat out refusing to understand what I'm saying. (You asking me if I'd played the games and then the wiseassery afterward even after I put "play the old games AGAIN" didn't sit well w/me.) I'm a big fan of taking shots but only when they're warranted. Let's get these answers & stop wasting space on the thread.

The Civil War Finale:

1- If hes in fact *the* sub boss of the game as "Wiki" infers, it mainly indicates one thing. That the rating he has its above anyone else save Silber. The point of his participation in the game isent being an ally or bodyguard of Silber, (wich going by your ideia would be more logical - stopping others to not reach Silber being its only porpuse, aka: Billy and Geese) but to be like the other figthers, a guy who entered the tournment to win. This matter is done for me. The bad part of your resonings itsent thinking if Ryo sucks or not. Its pulling claims about things you have no proof like they would matter. And they dont.

Thus your point that Ryo didnt make it to the finals: is no point at all, when you admit for a fact that you *dont know* or that *you never played it*. Now, as for who was in said finals, i can tell you rigth away that Ryo`s ending shows him winning the tournment. The only grip is if there was a cannonical story ending or just the same stage to everyone. When you were about to fight the last guy, Silber would appear instead as the other finalist. See how it is? Big men have little problems admitting things. And without the need to make up claims out of the...whole.

2- Brain. I asked the questions in the first place, didnt i. That was rigth after talking about Sado back then, of who won KOF, etc. Mainly: How many KOF were dream matches, how many finals were interrupted and who won in the cannonical endings. You dont know? Be a big man and say it. No one will make fun of you, i at least wont. I dont know everything either, but i search for it.

You want me to try to answer those, together with the Ryo/Terry ones? Ill work on it.

3- I asked the mod to delete it. It was the same answer i did later but incompleted with the problem that i let passed out the 15 min for editing. Thus, i didnt wanted two posts saying the same thing. Not really a concern of yours, but i dont have a problem saying it either.

4- Sorry, Brain, you didnt implied. You simply stated clean that Terry "suxed" because he had never beaten anyone worthy outside and i quote: "jobbers and nobodies". Its a fallacy. And somehow you get nervous when someone calls you in to give your reasonings? You shouldnt even be surprised at it.

Im done with this part too.

Originally posted by olympian
1- If hes in fact *the* sub boss of the game as "Wiki" infers, it mainly indicates one thing. That the rating he has its above anyone else save Silber. The point of his participation in the game isent being an ally or bodyguard of Silber, (wich going by your ideia would be more logical - stopping others to not reach Silber being its only porpuse, aka: Billy and Geese) but to be like the other figthers, a guy who entered the tournment to win. This matter is done for me. The bad part of your resonings itsent thinking if Ryo sucks or not. Its pulling claims about things you have no proof like they would matter. And they dont.

Thus your point that Ryo didnt make it to the finals: is no point at all, when you admit for a fact that you *dont know* or that *you never played it*. Now, as for who was in said finals, i can tell you rigth away that Ryo`s ending shows him winning the tournment. The only grip is if there was a cannonical story ending or just the same stage to everyone. When you were about to fight the last guy, Silber would appear instead as the other finalist. See how it is? Big men have little problems admitting things. And without the need to make up claims out of the...whole.

I said I don't know who was IN the finals, but Ryo wasn't because he's a sub boss. Him being homies or not w/Silber has nothing to do w/anything. He's the sub boss.

Originally posted by olympian
2- Brain. I asked the questions in the first place, didnt i. That was rigth after talking about Sado back then, of who won KOF, etc. Mainly: How many KOF were dream matches, how many finals were interrupted and who won in the cannonical endings. You dont know? Be a big man and say it. No one will make fun of you, i at least wont. I dont know everything either, but i search for it.
🙂 You're doing the "not paying attention" thing again mane. Look @ the red parts below. Please pay attention

Originally posted by brainchild81
Read back. I notice the "finally" part(Again w/the reading comprehension!!!!!!!). I asked you these a while ago & you seemed to be avoiding them. I don't know for absolutely certain. That's why I'm asking you. Anybody who's not Ryo centric should realize he hasn't done stuff of importance compared to Iori since the megacool Iori showed up. I'm interested in KOF but I'll never claim to know everything about it.
I wouldn't care if someone did make fun of me, in fact, if I deserve it I'll respect them for it. It's when people who don't understand what they read take pot shots that I feel the need to call them on it.

Originally posted by olympian
You want me to try to answer those, together with the Ryo/Terry ones? Ill work on it.
I appreciate that. I really think I asked you 1st though but it doesn't matter anymore.

Originally posted by olympian
4- Sorry, Brain, you didnt implied. You simply stated clean that Terry "suxed" because he had never beaten anyone worthy outside and i quote: "jobbers and nobodies". Its a fallacy. And somehow you get nervous when someone calls you in to give your reasonings? You shouldnt even be surprised at it. Im done with this part too.
I know I didn't imply because I don't do that imply sh*t mane. I said Terry had beaten up jobbers & nobodies. IMO It's the sad truth. Didn't say he sux though you for some reason seeme to insist that's what I meant. Thanx for telling me what I think too mane. That's awesome. That's why you said something like "how can he not suck if he only beats up jobbers & nobodies?". I've tried explaining it before. Maybe if I use something the youngsters like like movies you'll get it🙂. Terry is kinda like Mason Dixon from the last Rocky movie. If you've seen it, remember the stuff the sports guys said about him? It didn't mean that he sucked. I hope that does it for you. I'll get into it a lil' farther if necessary. I really hope it's not though. It's good to see you've finally taken Kyo & Iori out of the equation since they weren't applicable in the 1st place.

P.S. Ryo sux.

Originally posted by brainchild81
I said I don't know who was IN the finals, but Ryo wasn't because he's a sub boss. Him being homies or not w/Silber has nothing to do w/anything. He's the sub boss.

According to "Wiki". But who else?

And if he indeed is, what logic does it make in a story POV that a man that we *know* enters the tourney to win, ends up acting as a bodyguard to the final boss, ala Billy and nothing else?

You need solid proof to credit him to either one kind or the other, slacker.

Originally posted by brainchild81
I know I didn't imply because I don't do that imply sh*t mane. I said Terry had beaten up jobbers & nobodies. IMO It's the sad truth.

Sadly, its the exact point where you are wrong.

Another angle:

What do you make of Orochi Iori beating everybody? Jobbing?

this thread is still going on?!
damn.
Oly, Brainy...drop it already! 😠
you both know its not gonna get anywhere.
take the words of this angel who has achieved nirvana and sees the world with a unified and unaffected vision and consciousness.
kneel and meditate with me....and i shall show you the path as well!
*meditates and levitates in the air*
Sado: first i will meditate and then destroy you!

~The Invincible Dalai Sado-lama-sama