Originally posted by Sado22
this aint beef or something but last time i checked SFA2 happend one year after SF1. SFA3 happened one year after SFA2. SFA3 happened 3 years BEFORE SF2.
Ryu was 28 in SF2.
Hence he was 25 in SFA3. which means he was 24 in SFA2 and 23 in SF1.
Kyo was 20 in KoF96. hence he was 18 in KoF94. also notice that after KoF96 they magically stoppped aging (wierd) however prior to that they were aginig just fine. i even cross checked that with REALLY old websites and of course, kaliualantatiats or whatever that Mr. Tongue Twister is called.
SFA1- Late teens to early20s
SFA2- Early 20s
SFA3- Mid 20s
SF2- (Huge leap)Mid 30s to early 40s
SF3- 40s to 50
Kyo was 20 in the 1st KOF which is why he is considered a flunky. If he is a teen and still is in high school, he isn't much of a flunky, that's actually pretty average. Kyo now is 28 to 30. Although Kyo looks like he's 17, it's strange, no one ages in KOF except Terry.
Originally posted by Sado22Ryu has been on the streets since his mid teens. In fact he's been in more then just the streets, try the world. He's roamed the jungles, the forest, the rain forest, the deserts, etc. Ryu never ate from a trash, he hunted his food and killed it with his own hands then cooked it over a natural fire, that's far worst then just being lazy and just eating out of the trash. A 10 year old kid living on the streets is ALOT less worst then the a 15-17 year old living in the weilderness surounded by Tigers, Lions, and Bears (oh my) armed with nothing but your bare hands. At least on the streets there are other people who can communicate with, some times they may even help you. In the wilderness and in the hot or artic desert, you got no body but your self. I'd rather not have a father till a certain point in my life then to find out that my father figure was mutalated by a guy whom at the time would kill me in a matter of minutes. Terry may have went through alot of stuff but Ryu, has been through ALOT of stuff and there is one thing Ryu has had to put up with that no mount of external fights Terry can face...an enternal struggle. Ryu has had to fight the demon with in himself since birth. Th fact that Ryu walks around bare foot EVERY WHERE shows his strength, focus and durability. The only transportation Ryu may catch is a boat or plain. Ryu only wears other clothes on special occassions and he is not cheap, he just doesn't need the material posessions that Terry needs.
dude...Ryu has been on the streets since he was 23 and old enough to take care of himself. Terry was on the street prior to meeting Jeff Bogard (probably his age was anywhere around 5). and after Jeff died, Terry (at the age of 10) was on the streets again. Last time i checked Ryu never had to pick up food from the trash and eat it especially not as a child...Terry did during the time he was a kid. a 10 year old kid having to go through all that is a lot worse than a barefooted 23 year old. also Ryu had a father figure till adolescence. Terry's dad died when he was 10. not to mention that Bogard has been on the streets for 25 years now. FIFTEEN more years than Ryu.
also, its not Terry's fault that ryu wants to walk barefooted when he clearly HAS OTHER CLOTHES AND SHOES (official art. it was even posted by Emperor sometime back). also Ryu can also afford to take transport since he had enough money to buy a damn ticket to the US😱
if he's being a cheapo its his problem. also Terry doesn't train in the traditional sense of the word you know. he just goes and picks fights. between the two I feel terry has gone through more actually.
How do you know that Terry does not also have to deal with an "eternal struggle".
I respect what you stated, but you somehow are trying to make it seem that Ryu has it harder than Terry. Terry has been surviving on his own when he was younger period.
Do you have any proof that Ryu was hunting for food with his bare hands perse?
Walking barefoot everywhere show's his strength?....my god Remoulous.
[i]Originally posted by Kazenji
No i'm not.... just to clear some things up
Well it sounded like it.
[i]Originally posted by Kazenjithis is what happen
Sado already explained it.
and the reason i said "thanks for replying late" was Sado22 allready explained before you even replyed
I know what happened but as I said before it sounded that way.
Originally posted by P-Geyser- Never mentioned it nor has it ever been shown.
How do you know that Terry does not also have to deal with an internal struggle.I respect what you stated, but you somehow are trying to make it seem that Ryu has it harder than Terry. Terry has been surviving on his own when he was younger period.
Do you have any proof that Ryu was hunting for food with his bare hands perse?
Walking barefoot everywhere shows his strength?....my god Remoulous.
- I understand what you are saying but surviving on your own on the streets at 10 is hard but there are 1000s in real life that go through same exact thing. How many 15-17 year olds do you know that travel the world by them selves in search for a fight. Willing to fight anyone even Sagat, He's only like a few years older then Terry when Terry 1st started out and has already fought the worlds strongest.
-Do you need it? Shouldn't it be obvious? A guy stranded in the amazon with no food, how else would he eat?
-My God P-Geyser, you mean you can walk through the desert or rain forest bare foot for days, maybe even weeks? If you can, I salute you. Any normal person's feet would begin to hurt or grow infections after a while.
[i]Originally posted by Remulous
Never mentioned it nor has it ever been shown.
Still how do you know. I guess the same can be said for any fighter.
[i]Originally posted by Remulous
- I understand what you are saying but surviving on your own on the streets at 10 is hard but there are 1000s in real life that go through same exact thing. How many 15-17 year olds do you know that travel the world by them selves in search for a fight. Willing to fight anyone even Sagat, He's only like a few years older then Terry when Terry 1st started out and has already fought the worlds strongest.
Um actually it would seem there are more teenage runaways than their are 10 year olds out in the streets or by themselves...I should know.
Originally posted by Remulous
-Do you need it? Shouldn't it be obvious? A guy stranded in the amazon with no food, how else would he eat?
I will do my own checking on this.
Originally posted by Remulous
-My God P-Geyser, you mean you can walk through the desert or rain forest bare foot for days, maybe even weeks? If you can, I salute you. Any normal person's feet would begin to hurt or grow infections after a while.
Again my god Remulous...you make it seem like Ryu is stronger than Terry, because he walks in his bare feet. There are allot of homeless people that have to walk in their bare feet for months on hard concrete does that mean the are stronger than someone who wears shoes? All it means is, they have blisters and a shitload of Callouses.
Originally posted by P-Geyser-Everyone in life has internal struggles but Ryu's was so intense that if a person's struggle was not of the nature of Ryu's... it is a mere trifle.
Still how do you know. I guess the same can be said for any fighter.Um actually it would seem there are more teenage runaways than their are 10 year olds out in the streets or by themselves...I should know.
I will do my own checking on this.
Again my god Remulous...you make it seem like Ryu is stronger than Terry, because he walks in his bare feet. There are allot of homeless people that have to walk in their bare feet for months on hard concrete does that mean the are stronger than someone who wears shoes? All it means is, they have blisters and a shitload of Callouses.
-Ryu was not a run away teen, he left. Terry was left in the streets, Ryu left in the jungles and deserts. Trust me buddy, being 15 in the desert is ALOT worst then being 10 on the street. Have you ever been lost in a desert or even the wilderness for that matter, trust me being lost in there with no civilization will drive ones mind into the ground.
-Again, my God P-Geyser, you make this bare foot thing seem like it's as easy as wearing shoes. The homeless people walk the STREETS, Ryu walks the deserts arctic and hot, the forest, and mountains ranges. I think the guy who has been barefoot his hole life is going to be able run across hot coals easier then the guy who takes the simple privilege of having shoes for granted. This shows Ryu can take pain of long periods of time, he is more rough and rugged around the edges.
Originally posted by Remulous
Everyone in life has internal struggles but Ryu's was so intense that if a person's struggle was not of the nature of Ryu's... it is a mere trifle.
I agree about everyone's internal struggle.
Originally posted by Remulous
-Ryu was not a run away teen, he left. Terry was left in the streets, Ryu left in the jungles and deserts. Trust me buddy, being 15 in the desert is ALLOT worst then being 10 on the street.
That's why I feel Terry had it harder. You said it yourself "Ryu left" Terry on the other hand was given a shitty deal. Also Buddy, how do you know that being 15 in the desert is ALLOT worse?....have you dealt with both situations in your life?
Originally posted by Remulous
Have you ever been lost in a desert or even the wilderness for that matter, trust me being lost in there with no civilization will drive ones mind into the ground.
I guess I could ask you that very same question as well. You act like you YOURSELF have been lost at 15 in the desert. I have not nor have I been by myself in the streets at 10 or the jungle, but again how DO YOU KNOW which is worse?
Originally posted by Remulous
-Again, my God P-Geyser, you make this bare foot thing seem like it's as easy as wearing shoes. The homeless people walk the STREETS, Ryu walks the deserts arctic and hot, the forest, and mountains ranges. I think the guy who has been barefoot his hole life is going to be able run across hot coals easier then the guy who takes the simple privilege of having shoes for granted. This shows Ryu can take pain of long periods of time, he is more rough and rugged around the edges.
Again and Again my god Remulous. I never stated that it was easy NOT wearing shoes. Just that hearing how Ryu can be stronger than Terry because of it. I already know Ryu wonders the globe, so that is nothing new to me. Also you think that homeless people only walk the streets?...how the hell do you know that?
Originally posted by Remulous
This shows Ryu can take pain of long periods of time, he is more rough and rugged around the edges.
He can take ALLOT more pain because he does not wear shoes....I get it 🙄
Originally posted by P-GeyserStill the wilderness is worst then the streets, Ryu was not that much older then 10 when he left.That's why I feel Terry had it harder. You said it yourself "Ryu left" Terry on the other hand was given a shitty deal. Also Buddy, how do you know that being 15 in the desert is ALLOT worse?....have you dealt with both situations in your life?
Originally posted by P-GeyserI was lost in the Chihuahuan desret for a week and 2 days and in and out of the streets before I was 15.
I guess I could ask you that very same question as well. You act like you YOURSELF have been lost at 15 in the desert. I have not nor have I been by myself in the streets at 10 or the jungle, but again how DO YOU KNOW which is worse?
Originally posted by P-GeyserWhere else do they walk?
Again and Again my god Remulous. I never stated that it was easy NOT wearing shoes. Just that hearing how Ryu can be stronger than Terry because of it. I already know Ryu wonders the globe, so that is nothing new to me. Also you think that homeless people only walk the streets?...how the hell do you know that?
Originally posted by P-GeyserWalking in rocks, glass and snow is very painful, try it some time if you don't believe me. Ryu got use to it after a while. Thus leading to a decent amount of pain resistance.
He can take ALLOT more pain because he does not wear shoes....I get it 🙄
I talk about this stuff the way I do becuase I have experienced it.
Originally posted by olympianThat may be because you lack the comprehension skills. Perhaps Smiley faces are all you're able to understand. It's hard not to talk down to people but from this post on I'm done repeating myself to one who simply can't or doesn't want to understand. Sado or someone else who disagrees but @ least understands should be able to help you. Why would I need to make an exception for Kyo and Iori if he hasn't beaten them? This isn't rocket science. If I say "Terry beat up on jobbers & nobodies" than that doesn't have anything to do w/those he hasn't beaten up. But perhaps I've given you far too much credit & this logic that seems so simple to me is way over the heads of people like you. I apologize for that.
Darn. The smileys wer the only good part of the whole answer.
Sado, you may not agree, but can you please explain to Oly what I mean?
Originally posted by olympianNot really. Ash Cherry picked Iori which was smart on his part. Still, Ash took the flames from Iori & will go after the other flame users. The flame users are important to the storyline & Ryo is not. Iori is still an important part of the show. Far more important than lame ass Ryo Suckazaki. He honestly could be gone from the next game & it wouldn't make a difference(besides cutting down on the # of ripoffs in the game 🙂). Nobody wants anything he has. This is also not rocket science 🙂
Aka: The show belongs to Ash because hes the one stealing the thunder.If you want to include Iori losing badly and being side away for Ash to show up as *important* its up to you. We could make alot of exceptions if going by that logic.
Originally posted by olympianTerry & his student are in Garou. Where's Ryo? Nowhere. His student is there, but Lame-o Suckazaki is nowhere to be found because his story wasn't important enough for him to be included. Terry has Garou. Ryo has NOTHING! When's the next AOF coming out? The 32nd of Neverary.
"The AOF/FF story is still going on".Denial much?
Originally posted by olympianIt's a game that damn near nobody has ever played that was not popular enough to spawn any sequels. That's why it's not important. You brought it up to make it seem like he'd done something of importance. It didn't have Terry, Iori, or Kyo. It had punk @$$ Ryo. It failed. Ryo sux and he's not as famous or popular or important as Kyo, Iori or Terry. End of story mane.
Making claims about a game you never played its considered lack of credibility.
just when i thought this thread was done for. now more of this crap...
and unless there has been a retcon that i didn't know of:
SF- Mid teens.
SFA1- Late teens to early20s
FA2- Early 20s
SFA3- Mid 20s
SF2- (Huge leap)Mid 30s to early 40s
SF3- 40s to 50
Everyone in life has internal struggles but Ryu's was so intense that if a person's struggle was not of the nature of Ryu's... it is a mere trifle.
Ryu was not a run away teen, he left. Terry was left in the streets, Ryu left in the jungles and deserts. Trust me buddy, being 15 in the desert is ALOT worst then being 10 on the street. Have you ever been lost in a desert or even the wilderness for that matter, trust me being lost in there with no civilization will drive ones mind into the ground.
Again, my God P-Geyser, you make this bare foot thing seem like it's as easy as wearing shoes. The homeless people walk the STREETS, Ryu walks the deserts arctic and hot, the forest, and mountains ranges. I think the guy who has been barefoot his hole life is going to be able run across hot coals easier then the guy who takes the simple privilege of having shoes for granted. This shows Ryu can take pain of long periods of time, he is more rough and rugged around the edges.
the point is Remulus, Ryu had a good decent guarded life for the first 20 years of his life (go check the age bit again. i am certain that you're mistaken as hell). he had a father like figure guarding him, had good food, good advice, his best friend lived with him and he was being taught everything he knew....and was well fed too.
Terry had a f--ked life to begin with on the streets as an orphan trying to survive in dangerous streets, settled down with Jeff for anywhere for a mere 3 or 4 years, lost his father at the age of 10, went back to the streets, had his only family taken away from him, his brother went to another country and lived in the streets of the most dangerous town in the world without money, food or any guidance. STILL at the end of the day, he came out less twisted than Ryu who despite all that gave into his personal demons.
again the desert and junlge bit is off. we don't know if he was ever in a damn desert. as for the jungle bit he can always pick up fruits you know. its not like he HAS to hunt. where ARE you getting all that stuff anyway man?
the "hunting food" bit was a bit off. what is he tarzan?! last thing we need now is "Ryuzan" swinging from one tree to the other wearing his lion cloth karate gi😉
also Ryu does NOT wander the globe. even in SFA3 the only places people ever see him or hear from him, he's only in Asia.
I talk about this stuff the way I do becuase I have experienced it.
He can take ALLOT more pain because he does not wear shoes....I get it
~The Burnt-His-Foot-So-He-Is-True-Warrior Sado-sama
Originally posted by Sado22All wrong.
nono.
no.
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no.no.
Originally posted by Sado22Wow, shows how much you know about SF. Ryu was dark and murderous because it's in his blood, it is to kill and destroy, this is the main back bone of the Anasatsuken. Why do you think Ken never went through the struggle. Ryu couldn't help it. Terry had no demon or desire to kill in him. Even though I love the guy and he inspires me, Terry pretty much came up like every other fighter. Ryu's dilemma was not as simple as a choice to kill or not to kill, it was an inner fight.
okay....your point. Terry didn't give in to anger, hate or vengeance enough for his darker side to take over him. seems to me, a 10 year old Terry was more mature than the early 20's Ryu to realize that killing people aint the answer. terry didn't have an internal struggle cuz he wasn't greedy for victory or even vengeance. by the time he finally met Geese at the age of 10, it was more about enjoying a good fight rather than vengeance. Ryu didn't understand that even by SFA3.
Originally posted by Sado22Once again, you are showing your minuscule knowledge of SF. Ryu has traveled across the world. In SF2 it wasn't just a tournament with a ring, you actually had to travel to fight your opponents. Ryu has wondered across the world.
where are you getting the junlge and desert bit? last time i checked Ryu only travelled Asia. the only countries he's been to are India, China, Japan (dah), Thailand......basically Asia. the only time he travelled to USA was after SF3 and that also only cuz he had unfinished business with Ken (and that Ken sent him the ticket).
Originally posted by Sado22Ryu left home in his mid teens Sado, no matter how much you wanna fight it, it's the truth deal with it. Also, how in the hell does any of that crap Terry went through make you a good fighter. It'll make you a tough guy but it doesn't make you stronger. What makes you strong is hard work and training, focus of the mind. Being out on the streets with NO GUIDENCE (which actually makes things worst), does not give you strength, speed, or focus. What makes you a better warrior is to meditate, practice your moves, train with those on your level and greater. Unfortunately Sado you have tough guy and warrior all mixed up, there is a thick line between the 2, you should try to remember that.
ONLY Asia dude. and Ryu does have regular clothes too. in fact in SF1 he actually WORE those shoes.the point is Remulus, Ryu had a good decent guarded life for the first 20 years of his life (go check the age bit again. i am certain that you're mistaken as hell). he had a father like figure guarding him, had good food, good advice, his best friend lived with him and he was being taught everything he knew....and was well fed too.
Terry had a f--ked life to begin with on the streets as an orphan trying to survive in dangerous streets, settled down with Jeff for anywhere for a mere 3 or 4 years, lost his father at the age of 10, went back to the streets, had his only family taken away from him, his brother went to another country and lived in the streets of the most dangerous town in the world without money, food or any guidance. STILL at the end of the day, he came out less twisted than Ryu who despite all that gave into his personal demons.
again the desert and junlge bit is off. we don't know if he was ever in a damn desert. as for the jungle bit he can always pick up fruits you know. its not like he HAS to hunt. where ARE you getting all that stuff anyway man?
the "hunting food" bit was a bit off. what is he tarzan?! last thing we need now is "Ryuzan" swinging from one tree to the other wearing his lion cloth karate gi😉also Ryu does NOT wander the globe. even in SFA3 the only places people ever see him or hear from him, he's only in Asia.
Also, once again Ryu has traveled the world on foot, only using boats and plains when necessary. India is very dry and barren in most places, Ryu has been there. Brazil, where Balanka was is a jungle, Ryu has been there.
Balrog's past is similar to Terry but that doesn't make him a masterful warrior. Terry is strong but his past makes him tough, not a good warrior.
Originally posted by Sado22No, but I can do a Shungokusatsu!
can you do the hadouken too?😄
Originally posted by Sado22Traumatizing wasn't it, Try dealing with that on a day to day bases and then I would take you as a serious challenge.
i walk bare feet a lot....once i was playing cricket without my shoes on a hot road at 45 degrees celsius. burnt my whole foot and had the skin totally peeled off to the point that you could see my flesh. i'm a tough son of a gun.
Sado: *beats up BC, PG, Oly, Croudo all at once* you must first walk barefooted to stand a chance.~The Burnt-Weak-Warrior Sado-sama
why is your text green?🙁
Wow, shows how much you know about SF. Ryu was dark and murderous because it's in his blood, it is to kill and destroy, this is the main back bone of the Anasatsuken. Why do you think Ken never went through the struggle. Ryu couldn't help it. Terry had no demon or desire to kill in him. Even though I love the guy and he inspires me, Terry pretty much came up like every other fighter. Ryu's dilemma was not as simple as a choice to kill or not to kill, it was an inner fight.
Once again, you are showing your minuscule knowledge of SF. Ryu has traveled across the world. In SF2 it wasn't just a tournament with a ring, you actually had to travel to fight your opponents. Ryu has wondered across the world.
Ryu left home in his mid teens Sado, no matter how much you wanna fight it, it's the truth deal with it. Also, how in the hell does any of that crap Terry went through make you a good fighter. It'll make you a tough guy but it doesn't make you stronger. What makes you strong is hard work and training, focus of the mind. Being out on the streets with NO GUIDENCE (which actually makes things worst), does not give you strength, speed, or focus. What makes you a better warrior is to meditate, practice your moves, train with those on your level and greater. Unfortunately Sado you have tough guy and warrior all mixed up, there is a thick line between the 2, you should try to remember that.
Balrog's past is similar to Terry but that doesn't make him a masterful warrior. Terry is strong but his past makes him tough, not a good warrior.
No, but I can do a Shungokusatsu!
*practices hard so that one day he can face Remulus on his island*
~The True Swollen Foot Warrior Sado-sama
Originally posted by Sado22
i walk bare feet a lot....once i was playing cricket without my shoes on a hot road at 45 degrees celsius. burnt my whole foot and had the skin totally peeled off to the point that you could see my flesh. i'm a tough son of a gun.
Sado: *beats up remulus, BC, PG, Oly, Croudo all at once* you must first walk barefooted to stand a chance.
Hey man NOT ME!...PLEASE 😂 Damn man you must have feet of steel 😱