Originally posted by Rick/Genis
If he crushes his windpipe and keeps it crushed... hmm... Not to mention, what's to stop him from just giving Logan a heart attack? is that beyond the abilities of Cable?
Not to mention what would stop logan from healing and getting back up?
Originally posted by Rick/Genis
Okay, if Cable can fling a Chair at a door with his mind... then WHY can't he push someone's heart down into their stomache and out into the open air? the body is very maleable, save wolvie's bones... and if you say he'll regrow a ****in' heart then this "seemingly" legitamit conversation is over!
Logan body is actaully enchanced human not normal human. Also how do you push in his heart when he can't break logan ribs? Also logans body is beyond human durability
So Logan who is immortal can not regrow a heart?
Seeing as how Logan has had his heart exploded and then he regrow it such as in Nick Fury Secret War.
So if you find it not legitamit to state some thing logan has done and which is with in his own power set to do then well maybe you should brush up on your knowledge of the character you are debating.
Originally posted by capt it up
Logan body is actaully enchanced human not normal human. Also how do you push in his heart when he can't break logan ribs? Also logans body is beyond human durabilitySo Logan who is immortal can not regrow a heart?
Seeing as how Logan has had his heart exploded and then he regrow it such as in Nick Fury Secret War.
So if you find it not legitamit to state some thing logan has done and which is with in his own power set to do then well maybe you should brush up on your knowledge of the character you are debating.
Wolverine is the ultimate posterboy for marvel and now should just be able to beat galactus with his claws and his healing. This is freaking ridiculous. If he's immortal, then maybe he shouldn't even be argued and should be banned from this forum all together.
FACT: Bones don't grow back, same with Organs... FACT FACT FACT!!!!
Human's heal too, same as wolverine, just not as fast... that was the point of his creation... he heals FASTER than the average human, he doesn't heal things that DON'T FREAKING HEAL!!!
If he's this powerful then why do you say the other cable can beat him.
Anyway, you have just made this argument pointless, and I will no longer respond to it. Sorry.. bye.
When Logan was Death Didn't he punch a huge steel door down while X-man was holding it back? That doesn't seem like something Wolverine normally does, I know someone earlier said that Logan was clawing at it, but it looked like it was being punched and even if he was clawing at it how could he Cause Nate to truly Struggle with when all he was doing was pushing against a door with TK?
Didn't he also have psychic abilities as Angle stated "Its a psionic attack! He's taking out the telpaths first" And Death wasn't even to be seen at that point. Now last time I checked Wolverine doesn't have psychic powers.
He also took on a full force barrage of TK from Jean and just stood there.
Hell I can even be as petty as to say he deflected a small TK blast from Jean with his sword.
Now this seems like a very augmented Wolverine to me, granted after that one story he never seemed to show much of anything eles maybe it was just supposed to hype Death up but this still all happend.
Originally posted by Rick/Genis
That's so ****ing ridiculous! I'm done arguing this.. You think it's not PIS and complete and utter bullshit that Someone who's had his hand shot off in alternate Realities (Yes, that's not cannonicle but it's still happened to basically the same character) and NOT grown it back can regrow his damn heart. It's people that argue this fanboy creation that make me hate wolverine more and more. I take it he should be able to beat lobo now, too right?Wolverine is the ultimate posterboy for marvel and now should just be able to beat galactus with his claws and his healing. This is freaking ridiculous. If he's immortal, then maybe he shouldn't even be argued and should be banned from this forum all together.
FACT: Bones don't grow back, same with Organs... FACT FACT FACT!!!!
Human's heal too, same as wolverine, just not as fast... that was the point of his creation... he heals FASTER than the average human, he doesn't heal things that DON'T FREAKING HEAL!!!
If he's this powerful then why do you say the other cable can beat him.
Anyway, you have just made this argument pointless, and I will no longer respond to it. Sorry.. bye.
Actually Logan does regrow organs and stuff never liked it but he's done it a couple of times, he's also immortal so even if died he'd be back
Originally posted by Rick/Genis
That's so ****ing ridiculous! I'm done arguing this..
Originally posted by Rick/Genis
You think it's not PIS and complete and utter bullshit that Someone who's had his hand shot off in alternate Realities (Yes, that's not cannonicle but it's still happened to basically the same character)
Originally posted by Rick/Genis
and NOT grown it back can regrow his damn heart.
Originally posted by Rick/Genis
It's people that argue this fanboy creation that make me hate wolverine more and more.
Originally posted by Rick/Genis
I take it he should be able to beat lobo now, too right?
Originally posted by Rick/Genis
Wolverine is the ultimate posterboy for marvel
Originally posted by Rick/Genis
and now should just be able to beat galactus with his claws and his healing.
Originally posted by Rick/Genis
This is freaking ridiculous. If he's immortal, then maybe he shouldn't even be argued and should be banned from this forum all together.
What cave have you been hiding in? This was stated like a month ago and hinted for years past.
I love how you’re a DeadPool fan and your whining about Wolverine being immortal this is price less. Sweet showing your Bias to every one.
Originally posted by Rick/Genis
FACT: Bones don't grow back, same with Organs... FACT FACT FACT!!!!
Originally posted by Rick/Genis
Human's heal too, same as wolverine, just not as fast... that was the point of his creation... he heals FASTER than the average human, he doesn't heal things that DON'T FREAKING HEAL!!!
Originally posted by Rick/Genis
If he's this powerful then why do you say the other cable can beat him.
Originally posted by Rick/Genis
Anyway, you have just made this argument pointless, and I will no longer respond to it. Sorry.. bye.
Originally posted by Sparkz
When Logan was Death Didn't he punch a huge steel door down while X-man was holding it back? That doesn't seem like something Wolverine normally does, I know someone earlier said that Logan was clawing at it, but it looked like it was being punched and even if he was clawing at it how could he Cause Nate to truly Struggle with when all he was doing was pushing against a door with TK?Didn't he also have psychic abilities as Angle stated "Its a psionic attack! He's taking out the telpaths first" And Death wasn't even to be seen at that point. Now last time I checked Wolverine doesn't have psychic powers.
He also took on a full force barrage of TK from Jean and just stood there.
Hell I can even be as petty as to say he deflected a small TK blast from Jean with his sword.
Now this seems like a very augmented Wolverine to me, granted after that one story he never seemed to show much of anything eles maybe it was just supposed to hype Death up but this still all happend.
No he used his claws
He had a device given to him from apoc
He had TK protection in his armor.
all was stated with in the comics. The mental device was a one time thing though and it was like an energy attack.
Originally posted by grey fox
Nope , Classic Cable still wrecks him.
ughhh no he doesn't...
cable and wolverine made a reference to them having had multiple battles in new mutants 92 and 93, never there being an official winner.. hell in that very fight logan plasters cable with a solid right boasting that he doesn't even need claws to beat cables ass, whether that's true or not I don't care, but were those close out on impact.. cable would be no more.
Originally posted by python99
Anyone out there got scans of these 2 ever fighting?
actually I got all their fights..
the first2was in new mutants 93, it's a stalemate.
the seconsds in an x force book during the x ecutioner's song saga, they're stalemaiting again till bishop lends a hand to wolverine.
the third was another x factor book vs. deathwerine.. I think it's more or less a stalemate until wolverine falls off of a ledge which isn't technically a win on the forums anyways....
all their other referenced fights occur off panal, all noted have been stalemates.
Originally posted by jinzin
ughhh no he doesn't...cable and wolverine made a reference to them having had multiple battles in new mutants 92 and 93, never there being an official winner.. hell in that very fight logan plasters cable with a solid right boasting that he doesn't even need claws to beat cables ass, whether that's true or not I don't care, but were those close out on impact.. cable would be no more.
Cable proved that claim wrong you do realise?he popped wolverine after some H2H combat who then popped out his claws and even then at the end cable was holding him in the air,so he could have simply tossed him away.
Originally posted by Rick/Genis
Death Wolverines Powers so WERE Augmented... how can you say they weren't. anything Apocalypse did to his horsemen made them Augmented. Are you saying Archangel was the Same as Angel?
not really.
wolverine was augmented.. sure.. he was given an adamntium skeleton.. but that was it...
any other enhancements were stated as a part of his suit, grenades, energy blasts, psionic defenses, adamntium sword, a como mode on his suit, teleportation.... HOWEVER, no enhancements were made for his physical stature, at least non of his weapons came into play during his fight with cable..
everything in terms of durability, or strength, whatnot that deathwerine was doing, wolverine has either done before, or been doing since, so I really don't see how people can automatically write deathverine off like his feats don't matter.
Originally posted by Martian_mind
Cable proved that claim wrong you do realise?he popped wolverine after some H2H combat who then popped out his claws and even then at the end cable was holding him in the air,so he could have simply tossed him away.
what part of my post weren't you paying attention to? 😕
like I said, whether what wolverine said was true or not, I don't really care, the fact is that if his claws were OUT that fight would have been over in the first hit... same as their second fight...
as for cable holding him in the air.. yeah holding him in the air, about to lose his arm.. big deal. 🙄
Originally posted by Rick/Genis
Nothing was stated when Hulk became War but for some reason he stopped juggernaut... hm.
actually war hulk's physical enhancements WERE stated, that's were we found that hulk actually derives his power and reserves of strength from a pocket demension, the suit that apocalypse gace him drew power from a second pocket demension which was explained to be the green glow around hulk during that saga. His enhancements were stated no such thing exists for wolverine other than what was already described.
Originally posted by jinzin
what part of my post weren't you paying attention to? 😕like I said, whether what wolverine said was true or not, I don't really care, the fact is that if his claws were OUT that fight would have been over in the first hit... same as their second fight...
as for cable holding him in the air.. yeah holding him in the air, about to lose his arm.. big deal. 🙄
Despite that fact that he was holding the Him with the cybernetic one which he showed he could fix 🙄 good for wolverine.Anyway if just once cable used enough TK to just give Woverine an enurism that wouldn't make him lose control even classic could lift a hammer,so he would have enough strength to scramble wolvies braincells,thus your claw point is moot as in all their in comic fights,cable has never used TK.
Originally posted by Rick/Genis
so by your logic... he's still Death Wolverine... he can still do EVERYTHING he did as death.. I doubt it.
in terms of physical feats... yes.. that's the assumption.
again most of the physical feats that deathverine performed wolverine's at some point ALREADY DONE ANYWAYS...
although when as wolverine these would be considered high end feats, in wolverine 166 logan states that apacalypse made him realize what'd he'd REALLY be like if he wasn't holding himself back. what he was REALLY capible of.