Wolverine VS Cable

Originally posted by jinzin
considering that they've have numerous fights and cable
sever dones this it's not moot.
considering that wolverine has a 100% batting average of hitting cable in a fight it's not moot.
considering that cis isn't exempt from these battles, it ain't moot and considering the question
how much concentration and time is needed to perform something like that for classic cable?

cause if it's more time than this:this:http://i22.photobucket.com/albums/b317/crfroma/Wolverinev1-068-17.jpg
http://i22.photobucket.com/albums/b317/crfroma/Wolverinev1-068-18.jpg

IT AIN'T MOOT

Yes they have fought many times and cable has never done that,i thought i actually said that in my first post.Tell me,in all their many fights has wolverine ever speedblitzed cable?If so then those scans are moot because cable has always held his own.As for the mental challenge,an enurism is a blood clot that stops blood reaching the brain it doesn't even need to be a centimetre in volume and it will completely incapacitate wolverine.

Unfortunately for wolverine if his healing factor tries to overcompensate to regain the blood,his brain blows up,a win for cable.Yes i know cable has never done this,but when has woverine ever laid a lethal strike when his claws are drawn?

Originally posted by Rick/Genis
Well it negates what Deathverine did to cable as he wouldn't be wearing any form of psyblocker unless stated as wearing such item in the beginning of the thread.

true enough, and I don't much care how badly the more current versions of cable would plow wolverine, since that's really more of a non fight than an actual challenge.

Originally posted by Martian_mind
Yes they have fought many times and cable has never done that,i thought i actually said that in my first post.Tell me,in all their many fights has wolverine ever speedblitzed cable?If so then those scans are moot because cable has always held his own.As for the mental challenge,an enurism is a blood clot that stops blood reaching the brain it doesn't even need to be a centimetre in volume and it will completely incapacitate wolverine.

Originally posted by Martian_mind
Unfortunately for wolverine if his healing factor tries to overcompensate to regain the blood,his brain blows up,a win for cable.Yes i know cable has never done this,but when has woverine ever laid a lethal strike when his claws are drawn?

Originally posted by jinzin
sigh.....

unfortunately your "facts" don't hold much presidence over a fictionalized, irrational mutated superpower I'm afraid.

the "fact" is that wolverine CAN heal things that can't be healed, that's been part of his character since the mid 80's now.

you can't heal from mortal wounds, crushed organs, missing dody parts.. wolverine does.

as for aoa wolverine.. sure he got his hand blasted off by cyclops in a noncanonical world, but does that hold much barring over 616 wolverine who DOES regrow limbs? and who DOES stand up to full power cyk blasts with only singes to show for it? I think not.

I thought the only difference between the AoA world and 616 was suppossed to be that Apocalypse is ruler and charles is dead. I wasn't aware that Every character had different abilities as well and wolverine WASN'T the same character. Shame on me.

As for the Heart moving... what would stop Cable from doing it if he can move something else that is physically tougher... that's all I was saying. I don't need you to be sarcastic toward me. I was asking what's to stop him... that was it. And again, deathverine had enhancements that NORMAL wolverine does not, regardless of whether or not it was done to his body or a suit he wore. The fight between them is not relevent because cable would normally be able to use his TK (which apparently he couldn't against death due to his suit [I'm going by what Capt said about the fight what was augmented in him])

Originally posted by jinzin
nonsense, what I've been arguing for and against is clear since I've come into this thread.. don't backtrack to save face.

Seriously dude, show me where I am backtracking AT ALL. Show me where I said Classic Cable mops the floor with Wolverine.

Since it's not there and it's you making statements based off ASSumptions then crying when you are called on it you need to just chill out.

I recomend you move on with this slighted debate now that you are blowing wind.

It is within Classic Cables powers to pull an upset on Wolverine consistently.

Current Cable mops the floor with Wolverine.

Originally posted by Rick/Genis
I thought the only difference between the AoA world and 616 was suppossed to be that Apocalypse is ruler and charles is dead. I wasn't aware that Every character had different abilities as well and wolverine WASN'T the same character. Shame on me.

well to be honest, in aoa he's not even called wolverine.. in aoa he's reffered to as weapon x..

wolverine in aoa is sebastion shaw working under apocalypse...

in any case.. yes the characters are more or less SIMILAR to their 616 counterparts and they DO have the same basic powers however they ARE different..

this was proven when darkbeast entered 616, though he's still beast he's weaker than his mainstream counterpart, he's also faster, but less agile and sabretooth marked that he had a distinctly different scent than the 616 version.... sabretooth can match up parents to children by their scent and STILL he marked aoa beast as different.. kinda tells me they must be different then.

Originally posted by Rick/Genis
As for the Heart moving... what would stop Cable from doing it if he can move something else that is physically tougher... that's all I was saying. I don't need you to be sarcastic toward me. I was asking what's to stop him... that was it. And again, deathverine had enhancements that NORMAL wolverine does not, regardless of whether or not it was done to his body or a suit he wore. The fight between them is not relevent because cable would normally be able to use his TK (which apparently he couldn't against death due to his suit [I'm going by what Capt said about the fight what was augmented in him])

I don't care what current cable can do, classic cable couldn't do that due to the fact that taking the focus of his powers off his virus would result in his death during a h2h fight.. so what's to stop him? well... THAT.. and wolverine hacking away at him.

Originally posted by jinzin
uhh yeah he did in both of their first two fights actually.

no, out of charity. both occasions were circumstantial and not an affliction of cis but of the occasion.. what's cable's excuse?

And cables excuse is CIS,he could defeat most opponents that way if he had wanted but he chooses not too,I think the reason neither is willing to use both their abilities to the fullest is because they want to see who's H2H is better,hell cable says he wants to see once and for all to death wolverine.Personally i think all out Classic cable 7/10 cable Vs wolverine with claws is Wolverine 7/10 and Just H2H is an even 5/5 split.

Originally posted by Soleran
Seriously dude, show me where I am backtracking AT ALL. Show me where I said Classic Cable mops the floor with Wolverine.

Since it's not there and it's you making statements based off [b]ASSumptions then crying when you are called on it you need to just chill out.

I recomend you move on with this slighted debate now that you are blowing wind.

It is within Classic Cables powers to pull an upset on Wolverine consistently.

Current Cable mops the floor with Wolverine. [/B]

OMFG

you RETORTED vs. a post that I made in reply to rick, who was under the assumption that classic cable wins.. kinda makes it look like you think he wins too, it's not complicated to follow.

as for classic cable, he'd need to prove it first.. he never did

Originally posted by Martian_mind
In their first fight Cable snuck up on Wolverine,and there was not a speedblitz if i recall correctly.

Originally posted by Martian_mind
And cables excuse is CIS,he could defeat most opponents that way if he had wanted but he chooses not too,

wolverine batkicks cable and then uses his healing factor to gain quadrouple the strength. To make him Galactus par. Game ova

Match over

Classic cable had pertty mininal TK, correct?

well, recently, deadpool beat cable's anus pertty much in pure h2h, cable was getting rocked untill he got his TK back,

if i recall correctly, classic cables tk wasnt THAT awsome

and going by that showing, wolverine SHOULD, be able to handle classic cable

SOLERAN:

for what it's worth, I'm sorry, I know that these things can kinda get outa control after a while, and everyone's not always on the same page, so my bad for jumping down your throat. i apologize.

Originally posted by ExtraMision5555
Classic cable had pertty mininal TK, correct?

well, recently, deadpool beat cable's anus pertty much in pure h2h, cable was getting rocked untill he got his TK back,

if i recall correctly, classic cables tk wasnt THAT awsome

and going by that showing, wolverine SHOULD, be able to handle classic cable

pretty much "EXACTLY" on par there. 😉

Originally posted by jinzin
the next attack was wolverine speedblitzing cable, punching him before cable could even react...

EXACTLY, and cis isn't exempt from these debates.

Not once in that fight is cable speedblitzed 😕 i have the 2 issues infront of me and after cable hit's wolverine the first time wolverine lunges and gets cracked in the noggin again.

I know CIS isn't exempt from debates,which is why i said ALL-OUT CABLE takes it are we clear on that?As for the "he needs to prove this power claim"just because he hasn't done it doesn't mean he can't.By your logic LT Couldn't destroy a universe because he has never done it on panel. 🙄 I know what you'll say "well if that's the case then it means that for all we know wolverine could shoot rainbow lasers from his arse" but no because this is simply Cable Utilising his powerset in a certain way,not a new ability.

(martian mind love your sig)

Originally posted by ExtraMision5555
Classic cable had pertty mininal TK, correct?

well, recently, deadpool beat cable's anus pertty much in pure h2h, cable was getting rocked untill he got his TK back,

if i recall correctly, classic cables tk wasnt THAT awsome

and going by that showing, wolverine SHOULD, be able to handle classic cable

Would you also like to mention how in that issue that cable was recording a tape to show the world how evil deadpool was and even said he was holding back?or are you referring to when cables Virius was running rampant and slowly killing him?

Originally posted by Redatom65
(martian mind love your sig)

Thanks 😄 Questions always good.

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Originally posted by Martian_mind
Not once in that fight is cable speedblitzed 😕 i have the 2 issues infront of me and after cable hit's wolverine the first time wolverine lunges and gets cracked in the noggin again.

I know CIS isn't exempt from debates,which is why i said ALL-OUT CABLE takes it are we clear on that?As for the "he needs to prove this power claim"just because he hasn't done it doesn't mean he can't.By your logic LT Couldn't destroy a universe because he has never done it on panel. 🙄 I know what you'll say "well if that's the case then it means that for all we know wolverine could shoot rainbow lasers from his arse" but no because this is simply Cable Utilising his powerset in a certain way,not a new ability.

meh, he did it in their second fight then...

in any case.. no you're misunderstanding me, if cable chooses not to do something through cis then he can't... that's all..

as for you taking cis away, no that was not clear before...

finally, I still ask how much concentration or time he needs to do something like that?

Originally posted by jinzin
hmmm I coulda swore wolverine decked him sans claws right after that sneak attack...

meh, he did it in their second fight then...

in any case.. no you're misunderstanding me, if cable chooses not to do something through cis then he can't... that's all..

as for you taking cis away, no that was not clear before...

finally, I still ask how much concentration or time he needs to do something like that?

He doesn't need time for him to do this,once he pinches of the blood flow wolverine is incapable of moving and having seizures,and he'd only need to exert as much force that is used in moving ones finger.As i stated,yes cable would not do this due to CIS but a bloodlusted cable just might,get it?