Wolverine VS Cable

Originally posted by Martian_mind
Despite that fact that he was holding the Him with the cybernetic one which he showed he could fix 🙄 good for wolverine.Anyway if just once cable used enough TK to just give Woverine an enurism that wouldn't make him lose control even classic could lift a hammer,so he would have enough strength to scramble wolvies braincells,thus your claw point is moot as in all their in comic fights,cable has never used TK.

considering that they've have numerous fights and cable
sever dones this it's not moot.
considering that wolverine has a 100% batting average of hitting cable in a fight it's not moot.
considering that cis isn't exempt from these battles, it ain't moot and considering the question
how much concentration and time is needed to perform something like that for classic cable?

cause if it's more time than this:this:http://i22.photobucket.com/albums/b317/crfroma/Wolverinev1-068-17.jpg
http://i22.photobucket.com/albums/b317/crfroma/Wolverinev1-068-18.jpg

IT AIN'T MOOT

Telepathic Abilities (mind readin) >>> Wolverine....Nuff said

Originally posted by Rewmac
Telepathic Abilities (mind readin) >>> Wolverine....Nuff said

also mind raping logan a lot easy said then done.

Not only does he have animal side, but his mind is harder the enter any ways and then add in the level 9 tp blocker.

Originally posted by Rick/Genis
Okay, if Cable can fling a Chair at a door with his mind... then WHY can't he push someone's heart down into their stomache and out into the open air? the body is very maleable, save wolvie's bones... and if you say he'll regrow a ****in' heart then this "seemingly" legitamit conversation is over!

so let me get this straight, you talk about cable doing something that could possibly kill him, something that is against this scope of CIS to do, something that we've never seen or heard him do before and that's okay?

BUT

if cap retorts with wolverine doing something that we've seen him do, something that we KNOW is within his ability to do, something HE HAS DONE BEFORE... more than once.....

then it's automatically not a legit conversation anymore?

🤨

🙄 figures. pffft

Originally posted by Rick/Genis
That's so ****ing ridiculous! I'm done arguing this.. You think it's not PIS and complete and utter bullshit that Someone who's had his hand shot off in alternate Realities (Yes, that's not cannonicle but it's still happened to basically the same character) and NOT grown it back can regrow his damn heart. It's people that argue this fanboy creation that make me hate wolverine more and more. I take it he should be able to beat lobo now, too right?

Wolverine is the ultimate posterboy for marvel and now should just be able to beat galactus with his claws and his healing. This is freaking ridiculous. If he's immortal, then maybe he shouldn't even be argued and should be banned from this forum all together.

FACT: Bones don't grow back, same with Organs... FACT FACT FACT!!!!

Human's heal too, same as wolverine, just not as fast... that was the point of his creation... he heals FASTER than the average human, he doesn't heal things that DON'T FREAKING HEAL!!!

If he's this powerful then why do you say the other cable can beat him.

Anyway, you have just made this argument pointless, and I will no longer respond to it. Sorry.. bye.

sigh.....

unfortunately your "facts" don't hold much presidence over a fictionalized, irrational mutated superpower I'm afraid.

the "fact" is that wolverine CAN heal things that can't be healed, that's been part of his character since the mid 80's now.

you can't heal from mortal wounds, crushed organs, missing dody parts.. wolverine does.

as for aoa wolverine.. sure he got his hand blasted off by cyclops in a noncanonical world, but does that hold much barring over 616 wolverine who DOES regrow limbs? and who DOES stand up to full power cyk blasts with only singes to show for it? I think not.

I wonder when this'll reach page 22 like the Wolverine v.s Wonder Woman thread

Originally posted by jinzin
so let me get this straight, you talk about cable doing something that could possibly kill him, something that is against this scope of CIS to do, something that we've never seen or heard him do before and that's okay?

Cable won't kill people?

Classic Cable also did have enough control over his powers that he could fly and shield with TK and beat X-man. That's more then enough to take down Wolverine.

Not to mention KO's equal a win which is well within Cable's TK powers with scrambling brains and such.

Originally posted by capt it up
were not talking about current cable. were talken classic.

also mind raping logan a lot easy said then done.

Not only does he have animal side, but his mind is harder the enter any ways and then add in the level 9 tp blocker.

Sorry, you got me wrong I wasn't talking about mindraping. I was talking about Telepathy. Mind reading. Godlike Cable would be able to know what Logan wants to do before Logan.

Classic Cable would be owned. Seriously okay he has some cool feats like knocking out The Hulk from Green to Grey. But if the hunt is on I suppose Wolverine would hunt him down. But Cable ability to feel people behind him is also good. But if Wolvie is fast enough he can do him up, but if he isn't a TK Blast will send him flying with his flesh melting.
Other possiblity full classic Cable (beginning of his appearences) more gunz than brains stuff. That one surely be wiped by Wolverine.

Originally posted by Sparkz
When Logan was Death Didn't he punch a huge steel door down while X-man was holding it back? That doesn't seem like something Wolverine normally does, I know someone earlier said that Logan was clawing at it, but it looked like it was being punched and even if he was clawing at it how could he Cause Nate to truly Struggle with when all he was doing was pushing against a door with TK?

well we do have to consider a number of things here...

he was stated to be shredding through the door by cyclops at the time, assuming this is true it COULD be just artist inperpretation vs. storytelling and nothing more...

for a second explanation there's the possibility that he was using his grenades and/or energy blasts that he used to damage colosus and rogue with, characters well more durable than titanium... we never DO see wolverine pummbling the door barefisted

a third explanation could be that his suit's psionic failsafes were making x-man's contribution a non factor there, wolverine's admantium powered punches should EASILY be able to pummble titanium,

Originally posted by Sparkz
Didn't he also have psychic abilities as Angle stated "Its a psionic attack! He's taking out the telpaths first" And Death wasn't even to be seen at that point. Now last time I checked Wolverine doesn't have psychic powers.

He also took on a full force barrage of TK from Jean and just stood there.

Hell I can even be as petty as to say he deflected a small TK blast from Jean with his sword.

Now this seems like a very augmented Wolverine to me, granted after that one story he never seemed to show much of anything eles maybe it was just supposed to hype Death up but this still all happend.

actually these all have two very easily explained circumstances.. one, wolverine again... had psionic failsafes as part of his hardware... any tk or tp attacks attmepted on him were practically worthless...

second, he engaged nearly all of his enemies with some degree of prep.

batman regularly pulls stunts like this, but no one questions him when it comes to h2h brawls, so I continue to wonder why the same doesn't hold true for wolverine?

anyway cable wins straightup 😐

Originally posted by Soleran
Cable won't kill people?

Classic Cable also did have enough control over his powers that he could fly and shield with TK and beat X-man. That's more then enough to take down Wolverine.

Not to mention KO's equal a win which is well within Cable's TK powers with scrambling brains and such.

cable's also knocked himself unconsious just fighting in h2h while concentrating on keeping his virus under control....

that said, the brainscrambling thing I've already argued against...

Originally posted by Redatom65
anyway cable wins straightup 😐

Originally posted by jinzin
never said that, you're just assuming all out again...

cable's also knocked himself unconsious just fighting in h2h while concentrating on keeping his virus under control....

that said, the brainscrambling thing I've already argued against...

I didn't assume one thing (irony pouring out here.) I asked a question, you responded with a snide comment.

Great so lets use all the low showings that makes alot of sense, right.

The brainscrambling thing is a viable tactic agaisnt Wolverine, Cable knows it won't kill Wolverine.

Once again Classic Cable for the win unless like Rewmac said his VERY first showings where he wasn't a child of the summers.

Originally posted by Soleran
I didn't assume one thing (irony pouring out here.) I asked a question, you responded with a snide comment.

Great so lets use all the low showings that makes alot of sense, right.

The brainscrambling thing is a viable tactic agaisnt Wolverine, Cable knows it won't kill Wolverine.

Once again Classic Cable for the win unless like Rewmac said his VERY first showings where he wasn't a child of the summers.

Not necessarily low showings, I'm just saying cable might be able to do that, but not all the time, you can't assume that his high end showings set up the standard when they're out of character.

lets face it, classic cable and wolverine have had battles all were stalemates, all battles mentioned to have taken place before THAT, were stalemates, not to mention the fact that wolverine, powerless has faired better against lady deathstrike and omega red at the same time than cable did against omega red alone...

then of course there's the fact that captain america's been all over classic cable, deadpool...fought cable to numberous stalemates.

sabretooth, bashed cables face in.

cables', had a real tough time subduing caliban... wolverine did it in 3 punches.

cable's been helpless at gr's hands, wolverine stalemated gr.. twice.

you can't just ignore all the facts in place of your own assumptions.. classic cable does not mop the floor with logan.. period.

Originally posted by jinzin
you can't just ignore all the facts in place of your own assumptions.. classic cable does not mop the floor with logan.. period.

I never said Classic Cable would mop the floor with Wolverine, not anywhere in this thread.

The only person ASSuming here is you.

then why are you arguing with me? that's what I've been responding to since I entered this thread... (the issue of classic cable vs. wolverine)

if I'm at fault for assuming here, it's only based off your own incompetence.

was that a mean pun!?!?!?! Let the insults fly up until page 16

Originally posted by jinzin
then why are you arguing with me? that's what I've been responding to since I entered this thread... (the issue of classic cable vs. wolverine)

if I'm at fault for assuming here, it's only based off your own incompetence.

Haha save the ASSualts here because you get frustrated.

You're inability to read and comprehend before posting a response is your own ineptitude lets not pass the buck. We've all done it at sometime in the past just don't get defensive, you got called on it.

Originally posted by jinzin
not really.

wolverine was augmented.. sure.. he was given an adamntium skeleton.. but that was it...

any other enhancements were stated as a part of his suit, grenades, energy blasts, psionic defenses, adamntium sword, a como mode on his suit, teleportation.... HOWEVER, no enhancements were made for his physical stature, at least non of his weapons came into play during his fight with cable..

everything in terms of durability, or strength, whatnot that deathwerine was doing, wolverine has either done before, or been doing since, so I really don't see how people can automatically write deathverine off like his feats don't matter.

Well it negates what Deathverine did to cable as he wouldn't be wearing any form of psyblocker unless stated as wearing such item in the beginning of the thread.

Originally posted by Soleran
Haha save the [b]ASSualts here because you get frustrated.

You're inability to read and comprehend before posting a response is your own ineptitude lets not pass the buck. We've all done it at sometime in the past just don't get defensive, you got called on it. [/B]

nonsense, what I've been arguing for and against is clear since I've come into this thread.. don't backtrack to save face.