Wolverine VS Cable

Started by capt it up12 pages

Originally posted by Rick/Genis
The way Wolverine was originally written... he could.

ya logan was orignal written to have spiderman like strength. He had gloves with claws on them and was a mutated wolverine, but really nice try.

So why is it not plausible for me to be mad at the fact that they've change wolverine so drastically it's almost not even the same character? Or are we not allowed opinions on this forum?

Originally posted by Rick/Genis
And if you consider the 90's cable to be classic... the same classic that fights x-man (whom does NOT have a virus) WITH TK and TP, then Wolverine doesn't stand a chance, as THAT cable has USED the TK Shield... the same shield that Stryfe blocked Wolverine with.

I said early 90's.

mean 90 91 92.

also stryfe is cable with otu the virus there a big differnse body boy.

how about we name the fights that cable and logan as had and cable has yet to defeat logan? I think jinzin named what 3 issues already

also the issue youa re speaking of is Mutie.Dead by Chris Claremont & Scot Eaton

Originally posted by Rick/Genis
So why is it not plausible for me to be mad at the fact that they've change wolverine so drastically it's almost not even the same character? Or are we not allowed opinions on this forum?

becuase your mad at a character whpo was like that for oh 2 issues before beign revamp.

He was not full developed till logan miny series how ever. claremont, miller and another auther were who developed logan character fully.

your really mad at nothing. your knowledge of Logan is sloppy and inaccurate.

You whine about immortal logan when your a deadpool fan. You whine about healing feats when deadpools many tiems worse.

Name ONE TIME between 1975 (when he DID have his powers!) and 1990 where he regrew his heart and healed from a drop of blood and caught a darkness bullet?

Not to mention. I'm a huge fan of wolverine. Just not the current one. Deadpool has ALWAYS had an immense healing factor... that's what he's been since he was created... it's not nearly as inconsistent as wolverine.

And **** you for telling me my knowledge is sloppy and inaccurate when I can figure out how to use the damn spell check. Refrain from criticizing me and stick to the comics we discuss.

Originally posted by Rick/Genis
Sooo... you won't respond to what speznaz said?

pretty much what capt said

Originally posted by jinzin
pretty much what capt said

Rock... accept how do you explain the whole "Cable uses his TK Shield all the time" if that's so... and Stryfe has ALREADY repelled logan... how does he get through?

Originally posted by Rick/Genis
Yes he is... if Cable only uses 27% of his psionic energies on the Virus... isn't it legitamit to say that he can use 73% of his psionic energy to create the same force field that Strife (Cables clone and therefore using the same energy) used to repel Wolverine?
strife and cable were not NEAR the same level of psionic power... 😬

god, did you SEE what the guy was capible of?

hell even by cable's own admission they were only comparible in hand to hand combat.

But wouldn't it still be the same TK Shield?

Originally posted by Rick/Genis
And if you consider the 90's cable to be classic... the same classic that fights x-man (whom does NOT have a virus) WITH TK and TP, then Wolverine doesn't stand a chance, as THAT cable has USED the TK Shield... the same shield that Stryfe blocked Wolverine with.

early nineties cable is what capt was reffering to, considering that cable started to magnify and harness his abilities towards the latter half of the 90's and that's the era you were bringing up feats from.. well...

Originally posted by Rick/Genis
Name ONE TIME between 1975 (when he DID have his powers!) and 1990 where he regrew his heart and healed from a drop of blood and caught a darkness bullet?

Not to mention. I'm a huge fan of wolverine. Just not the current one. Deadpool has ALWAYS had an immense healing factor... that's what he's been since he was created... it's not nearly as inconsistent as wolverine.

And **** you for telling me my knowledge is sloppy and inaccurate when I can figure out how to use the damn spell check. Refrain from criticizing me and stick to the comics we discuss.

well seeing as how he did not get his mini till hmm 88. Thats a little hard. He did not have his heal factor for a long long time. If im not mistaken he defflected bullets before then and also dodge bullets, lifted up shark and saw a bullet in slow motion. Cut a rocket dart in midair as well.

DP got his healign factor from logans meaning the reason it was so good was becuase of Logan, but ounce he became immortla it just got rediculous.

Originally posted by Rick/Genis
But wouldn't it still be the same TK Shield?

no, like capt said, stryfe is a decidedly stronger cable without the virus,

funny how onslaught put up a tk sheild of his own and a BONE CLAW wolverine shredded a hole right through it.. are you seriously going to compare early era cable to THAT? 🤨

Originally posted by jinzin
no, like capt said, stryfe is a decidedly stronger cable without the virus,

funny how onslaught put up a tk sheild of his own and a BONE CLAW wolverine shredded a hole right through it.. are you seriously going to compare early era cable to THAT? 🤨

Just a question.. no need to get snotty.

Originally posted by jinzin
no, like capt said, stryfe is a decidedly stronger cable without the virus,

funny how onslaught put up a tk sheild of his own and a BONE CLAW wolverine shredded a hole right through it.. are you seriously going to compare early era cable to THAT? 🤨

Yet other shields have repelled him with ease before. That sounds more like writer error, to be honest. 😬

Either way, Cable's not losing this one.

Originally posted by capt it up
well seeing as how he did not get his mini till hmm 88. Thats a little hard. He did not have his heal factor for a long long time. If im not mistaken he defflected bullets before then and also dodge bullets, lifted up shark and saw a bullet in slow motion. Cut a rocket dart in midair as well.

DP got his healign factor from logans meaning the reason it was so good was becuase of Logan, but ounce he became immortla it just got rediculous.

He CAUGHT a bullet. That's alot different than seeing it and dodging it and deflecting it. And not just a regular bullet... a darkness one...

And that's interesting that from 75 to about 94 wolverine was having problems with being SCRATCHED by sabertooth/cyber (granted, there were hallucinagines and poison involved) and never ONCE healed from a damn drop of blood or regrew an organ. The only problem I have is the fact that for 19 years he was one way.. then he was COMPLETELY beefed up more than any other character (without anyone giving a reason for this beef up).

I have EVERY RIGHT to be upset with this.. don't fault me for it. Would YOU be upset if they all of a sudden started Weakening him and just made him a punching bag for the rest of the marvel universe?

Deadpool Almost never changed. Yes.. he became immortal, but he had crazy healing feats before that. He was brought in as a jive talking character... to be honest.. I dont' know why anyone is really taking him seriously.. when he's a serious character... he's boring.

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yeah? I wrote that...

Originally posted by Rick/Genis
Just a question.. no need to get snotty.

sorry I wasn't trying to convey "snotty", sorry you felt that way.

Originally posted by Beta Ray Howard
Yet other shields have repelled him with ease before. That sounds more like writer error, to be honest. 😬

Either way, Cable's not losing this one.

I really think it's contingent on what kind of sheild or what variation of what kind to be honest.. he's ripped through mystical forcefields, fought through a jean grey sheild and yet been stopped by weapon omega's shield on one occasion, but cloobered through it on another.

nevermind