In all honesty Cable really doesn't use that much of his power to keep the virus in check. About 27% percent. That gives him far more than enough to smack around Wolverine. His forcefield is constant as he always has it active, unless you count the two minutes after he bodyslides. Adding that, the TP and TK, stepping in between the moments, etc he smacks around Wolverine easily.
Cable takes it every time..
Simple ...Cable wins.
Why?
Because it has been shown that one of the things that Wolverine's vaunted (read: Oft quoted and fanboy imbued) Adamantium claws cannot cut through is a forcefield.
Guess what Cable can throw up, down, about (and for a price he can even do so to Christmas carols)! Yep, forcefields.
What is even more interesting is that once an X-team (included Wolvie, Nightcrawler, Psylocke, Colossus, Rogue, and maybe one or two I have forgotten .......plus Lady Deathstrike who had joined them after almost being killed by some Omega Sentinels) went against Stryfe (in essence, a clone of Cable).
Now, Wolvie did his whole (rather stupid and myopic) berserker attack against Stryfe, but his claws couldn't even pass through (at which point Stryfe told him that even though his claws can cut through almost anything, one of the things they cannot cut through is a forcefield ....particularly one backed by one of the most powerful minds yadayadayada).
Now, you have the clawed Mutie going against one of the more formidable psionic types around. A mutie who needs to be within physical reach of his foe to do harm, versus a potent mutant who can flay your skin from your bones with his bloody mind. A mutant whose major offensive potential is his (rather effective) claws, against someone whose offensive potential stems from his psionic capability (implying TK, TP, and with applied use even PK). A short runt of a Canadian versus some hombre who can literally make you kill yourself simply by planting the thought in ya noggin'!
Oh ....and to that add the fact that there is NOTHING that Wolverine could do to hurt Cable. Cable is absolutely invulnerable to Wolverine as long as he keeps his TK shields up. Now, it has been shown that it is possible to overload even the most powerful shields, but that capability is (sadly) not within Wolverine's grasp. All he could do is hack and slash and hack and slash and hack and ......to no avail.
Conclusion: Wolverine is out of his league here. He has no way of harming Cable, and Cable has several ingenious ways of hurting Wolverine (yes, I have priced Wolvie's 'healing factor' into that statement).
Asking if Wolverine can defeat Cable is ltantamount to asking if the Huntress can defeat Manchester Black! Or if Cyborg can defeat Despero. Or if Jubilee can triumph against Onslaught.
Cable 10/10.
Unless Wolverine miraculously develops other powers that can enable him to stand up to one of the more powerful TK/TP/Psi types around. And as far as I know Wolverine is still an 'Adamantium claw-Healing factor' pony.
Originally posted by spetznaz
Simple ...Cable wins.Why?
Because it has been shown that one of the things that Wolverine's vaunted (read: Oft quoted and fanboy imbued) Adamantium claws cannot cut through is a forcefield.
Guess what Cable can throw up, down, about (and for a price he can even do so to Christmas carols)! Yep, forcefields.What is even more interesting is that once an X-team (included Wolvie, Nightcrawler, Psylocke, Colossus, Rogue, and maybe one or two I have forgotten .......plus Lady Deathstrike who had joined them after almost being killed by some Omega Sentinels) went against Stryfe (in essence, a clone of Cable).
Now, Wolvie did his whole (rather stupid and myopic) berserker attack against Stryfe, but his claws couldn't even pass through (at which point Stryfe told him that even though his claws can cut through almost anything, one of the things they cannot cut through is a forcefield ....particularly one backed by one of the most powerful minds yadayadayada).Now, you have the clawed Mutie going against one of the more formidable psionic types around. A mutie who needs to be within physical reach of his foe to do harm, versus a potent mutant who can flay your skin from your bones with his bloody mind. A mutant whose major offensive potential is his (rather effective) claws, against someone whose offensive potential stems from his psionic capability (implying TK, TP, and with applied use even PK). A short runt of a Canadian versus some hombre who can literally make you kill yourself simply by planting the thought in ya noggin'!
Oh ....and to that add the fact that there is NOTHING that Wolverine could do to hurt Cable. Cable is absolutely invulnerable to Wolverine as long as he keeps his TK shields up. Now, it has been shown that it is possible to overload even the most powerful shields, but that capability is (sadly) not within Wolverine's grasp. All he could do is hack and slash and hack and slash and hack and ......to no avail.
Conclusion: Wolverine is out of his league here. He has no way of harming Cable, and Cable has several ingenious ways of hurting Wolverine (yes, I have priced Wolvie's 'healing factor' into that statement).
Asking if Wolverine can defeat Cable is ltantamount to asking if the Huntress can defeat Manchester Black! Or if Cyborg can defeat Despero. Or if Jubilee can triumph against Onslaught.
Cable 10/10.
Unless Wolverine miraculously develops other powers that can enable him to stand up to one of the more powerful TK/TP/Psi types around. And as far as I know Wolverine is still an 'Adamantium claw-Healing factor' pony.
Damn
Originally posted by Martian_mind
He doesn't need time for him to do this,once he pinches of the blood flow wolverine is incapable of moving and having seizures,and he'd only need to exert as much force that is used in moving ones finger.As i stated,yes cable would not do this due to CIS but a bloodlusted cable just might,get it?
non cis cable could do this..
given what said is true..
any scans or proof for the time/concentration factors I asked about?
Originally posted by capt it up
no need for him to. His whole defense is around a force field. which is great in theory however wolverine has cut force fields many times.also he not talking about classic cable either
That is classic cable.
Or better yet Capt, you tell me WHAT period of Cable defines him as "classic" and we can go from there.
Originally posted by Rick/Genis
Yes he is... if Cable only uses 27% of his psionic energies on the Virus... isn't it legitamit to say that he can use 73% of his psionic energy to create the same force field that Strife (Cables clone and therefore using the same energy) used to repel Wolverine?
BUT TEH CLAWS !!!!
Originally posted by Rick/Genis
Yes he is... if Cable only uses 27% of his psionic energies on the Virus... isn't it legitamit to say that he can use 73% of his psionic energy to create the same force field that Strife (Cables clone and therefore using the same energy) used to repel Wolverine?
No since it takes a lot more then that. stryfe is cable with out the virus.
Originally posted by capt it up
ral]ly when did he say he was tlaking abotu classic cable? not ounce that I see. he talked about stryfe who is as powerful as current cable.
Seriously I'm asking what do you call Classic Cable, he's evolved from just using guns and not even being a child of the summers.
Wolverine changed so did Cable.
So whats your definition of classic, thats all. After I know what you think is classic we can conitnue this discussion with a better idea of what to expect.
Originally posted by Soleran
Seriously I'm asking what do you call Classic Cable, he's evolved from just using guns and not even being a child of the summers.Wolverine changed so did Cable.
So whats your definition of classic, thats all. After I know what you think is classic we can conitnue this discussion with a better idea of what to expect.