Storm vs X-Factor

Originally posted by Rutog98
Why are you trying to debate if Storm can manipulate the EM spectrum? How did this come up? I am guessing you are referring to my point about Storm surrounding herself in an protective electrical field/aura to use as a barrier to prevent Lorna's powers from entering her body, right? Polaris has to project energy into you to control the metal in you. Metal is hers to command as a byproduct of her magnetic powers. Put an energy barrier around your body and her magnetic powers would have to penetrate it to reach you. In other words, you have blocked her.

because if you actually believe merely electrivity can stop a non-jobbing Polaris you have another thing coming. Barriers and shields have failed against Polaris in the past.

You do realize Polaris can do oh so much more..wait, scratch that. Storm wins 😕

Originally posted by Rutog98
Why are you trying to debate if Storm can manipulate the EM spectrum? How did this come up? I am guessing you are referring to my point about Storm surrounding herself in an protective electrical field/aura to use as a barrier to prevent Lorna's powers from entering her body, right? Polaris has to project energy into you to control the metal in you. Metal is hers to command as a byproduct of her magnetic powers. Put an energy barrier around your body and her magnetic powers would have to penetrate it to reach you. In other words, you have blocked her.

Wait...

A magnetic field is going to stop someone with control over magnetism...

that makes perfect sense...

Originally posted by Rutog98
You have intentionally misread my post. I said that Quicksilver can run on air. I already anticipated your argument. He is MUCH slower on air than he is on the ground. I have never seen him do anything at any great speed in the air. If I am wrong, name an instance to disprove this.

He may be able to move at mach10, but thought is faster yet.

No you didn't, lying now? Not by much actually, but apparently Storm can think and move faster than him and her reflexes are faster to? 😕 You don't seem to grasp what really a speedster is.

QS ran from Genosha to Latveria in seconds in House of M...ta da.

I think some people are missing the difference between Storm and Lifegaurd

Originally posted by King_Mungi
because if you actually believe merely electrivity can stop a non-jobbing Polaris you have another thing coming. Barriers and shields have failed against Polaris in the past.

You do realize Polaris can do oh so much more..wait, scratch that. Storm wins 😕

I know that Lorna is powerful, but Storm is in a completely different power class altogether. STorm has to hold back against Magneto out of the risk of killing him. Ororo is far beyond Lorna.

Originally posted by Rutog98
I know that Lorna is powerful, but Storm is in a completely different power class altogether. STorm has to hold back against Magneto out of the risk of killing him. Ororo is far beyond Lorna.

Actually no she isn't, and yet you claim Storm is so strong she still outclasses Havok who would destroy her and faster than QS and can take out X-Factor pretty much instantly? aaaaaannd your credibility just plummeted.

Originally posted by King_Mungi
No you didn't, lying now? Not by much actually, but apparently Storm can think and move faster than him and her reflexes are faster to? 😕 You don't seem to grasp what really a speedster is.

QS ran from Genosha to Latveria in seconds in House of M...ta da.

House of M? Well, according to people I have debated with on this board, I can't use Storm feats from other realities and all. We are going to apply this all around.

BTW, I never stated that Storm thinks faster than QS. All I am saying is he does not move faster than thought and STorm's powers can work instantly. It does not matter if QS can think faster because he has to move from place a to b physically and he runs much slower than the speed of thought. If he could move at the speed of thought, he could go from Genosha to Latveria many times over in less than a second.

Also, if Storm is in the air, it doesn't matter how fast he can run. He is not going to reach her. If he tries to go into the air, Storm is much faster than he in that medium.

Originally posted by King_Mungi
Actually no she isn't, and yet you claim Storm is so strong she still outclasses Havok who would destroy her and faster than QS and can take out X-Factor pretty much instantly? aaaaaannd your credibility just plummeted.

My credibility is there because the Magneto thing was taken right out of canon.

Polaris is a joke compared to STorm.

She kills Havok before he gets to her. All she has to do is manipulate the area around him and the entire field instantly. Her attacks start right on him and on every member of the team and the entire area. It doesn't even have to travel.

Originally posted by Symmetric Chaos
I think some people are missing the difference between Storm and Lifegaurd

Originally posted by inamilist
Wait...

A magnetic field is going to stop someone with control over magnetism...

that makes perfect sense...

She's using electricity to do this. Polaris does not beat Storm in control over electricity.

Candra is MUCH stronger than Lorna and Storm deflected her. Albeit, she is a telekinetic, but she is a much stronger mutant and STorm deflected her.

Originally posted by Rutog98
House of M? Well, according to people I have debated with on this board, I can't use Storm feats from other realities and all. We are going to apply this all around.

BTW, I never stated that Storm thinks faster than QS. All I am saying is he does not move faster than thought and STorm's powers can work instantly. It does not matter if QS can think faster because he has to move from place a to b physically and he runs much slower than the speed of thought. If he could move at the speed of thought, he could go from Genosha to Latveria many times over in less than a second.

Also, if Storm is in the air, it doesn't matter how fast he can run. He is not going to reach her. If he tries to go into the air, Storm is much faster than he in that medium.

House of M wasn't an alternate reality, it was 616.

Actually you did, you claimed she could do all these feats and still react and avoid everyone's attacks including QS. His speed of thought is vastly higher than Storm's. That's even stated, he sees the world in slow motion and that's why he is so irritated as his whole life is like waiting in a long line-up at the grocery story. Even Northstar and Aurora's speed of thought are vastly superior to a normal humans and QS and Northstar can speed read and process all the information for more quickly than a normal human. I thought you said you read X-factor?

Prove to me she moves at multiple mach speeds that she can avoid a speedster. Prove to me she can counter Polaris, Havok and QS all "instantly" as you claim.

Originally posted by Rutog98
My credibility is there because the Magneto thing was taken right out of canon.

Polaris is a joke compared to STorm.

She kills Havok before he gets to her. All she has to do is manipulate the area around him and the entire field instantly. Her attacks start right on him and on every member of the team and the entire area. It doesn't even have to travel.

haha right? 🙄 compelling arguement

Havok gets to her? you do realize he has long-distance attacks and have actually been shown to take people so quick they didn't even know what happend...wait, you read X-Factor you should know this.

Originally posted by Rutog98
She's using electricity to do this. Polaris does not beat Storm in control over electricity.

Candra is MUCH stronger than Lorna and Storm deflected her. Albeit, she is a telekinetic, but she is a much stronger mutant and STorm deflected her.

I'm not going to explain electromagnetism again

Originally posted by King_Mungi
haha right? 🙄 compelling arguement

Havok gets to her? you do realize he has long-distance attacks and have actually been shown to take people so quick they didn't even know what happend...wait, you read X-Factor you should know this.

Tell me when he has done this against a trained superpowered opponent without the advantage of a surprise attack?

Oh yeah, and according to X-Treme X-Men, Storm can see the electrons travelling through one's nervous system and know that they are going to attack before they even do. The issue further states that it gives her an advantage in any battle.

Originally posted by inamilist
I'm not going to explain electromagnetism again

Yeah, its best you don't try to get into this with me because its canon where Storm was badly injured which greatly weakens her control over electricity, yet she was still able to challenge Magneto's control over electricity.

MAgneto>Polaris. Big time.

Originally posted by Rutog98
Tell me when he has done this against a trained superpowered opponent without the advantage of a surprise attack?

Oh yeah, and according to X-Treme X-Men, Storm can see the electrons travelling through one's nervous system and know that they are going to attack before they even do. The issue further states that it gives her an advantage in any battle.

Actually he does it many times, I suggest you look at the Havok respect thread

and? Polaris can see those as well, but he is by no means a speedster. Unless your claiming that as well. Uhhh...you really havn't seen the power of Havok's blasts have you? and don't say you have, because your points thus far truely indicate you havn't.

Thats right, kick their asses Rutog98

Thats right, lets ignore what other characters have done and just look at all the pretty things Storm has done

Originally posted by King_Mungi
Thats right, lets ignore what other characters have done and just look at all the pretty things Storm has done

I likes the shineys she makes in the clouds

To: Rutog and 2damnloud

Who do you think would be a good match for Storm then?

If this team is taken out without a problem who would pose a threat to Storm?