Originally posted by inamilist
honestly though, I'm at a lossMagneto
Thor
Iceman
Hulk
X-FactorThese are big guns.
Like, do they think she could beat Iron Man or Sentry?
Wait a minute. Thor is WAY above those others. If you take out Thor, Storm outpowers anyone on the list one-on-one (save X-Factor, she outpowers the team collectively).
Originally posted by Rutog98
Wait a minute. Thor is WAY above those others. If you take out Thor, Storm outpowers anyone on the list one-on-one (save X-Factor, she outpowers the team collectively).
Didn't you say that Storm could take Thor?
If not I apologize, I thought I saw that being tossed around somewhere.
Edit: Wait, are you also saying she beats Iron Man AND Sentry?
Originally posted by inamilist
To: Rutog and 2damnloudWho do you think would be a good match for Storm then?
If this team is taken out without a problem who would pose a threat to Storm?
Sersi vs. Storm would be a huge problem. Sersi can control matter at the atomic level, but she can only affect a certain amount of mass without killing herself. Storm controlls the weather. If she creates a blizzard, put all of that snow together and you will have a tremendous amount of mass. Sersi can take a lot of punishment though. She has other abilities like TP and illusion casting, but Storm's extra-sensory abilities (namely her ability to perceive the universe as pattern of energy and forces and detect movement, etc) are a good counter to them. If Sersi manages to transmute STorm at the very beginning of the fight, Sersi wins, obviously. However, if Storm manages to pull something off to disorient Sersi first, then its a heck of a fight. Sersi has that very nasty transmutation power at her disposal while Storm has volume and mass on her side.
Dr. Strange vs. Storm would come down to who lands the first strike. She strikes him with lightning and he's gone. If he gets a spell off, she's gone.
Quasar would trump Storm.
The whole problem with Storm is generally she either beats you easily or you trump her easily. Given her full credit, she can fend off even the strongest of telepaths with her indomitable will. On top of this, her power over electricity has been expanded to be able to couter telepathy. She can muster sufficient brute force with her winds to level mountains, smash force-fields (including Magnto's) and much much more. Her powers are omni-directional. She can percieve the universe as patterns of energy and forces and bend these forces to her will. This includes stars, planets, empty space, and more. Her control over the weather is an expression of this. This enables her to see through weather cover that would blind others as well as see through solid matter. She can wield lightning at near apacolyptic levels (the lady can focus all of the electrical power in a storm into a single blast. Don't get me started on how much energy that is. Its why I laugh at nukes when people try to bring it up in regards to STorm). She can generate pressure domes powerful enough to bulldoze her way out of mountains/icebergs. She can generate energy fields that deflect energy attacks and use her powers through force-fields (She has used her powers through Invisible WOman's and JEan's force-field). She is immune to temperature variation and cannot be directly harmed by weather manifestations. All of this is before she even evolves to her full potential. Her powers are comparable to that of Phoenix and she can potentially evolve into a true goddess and wield Dark Phoenix level powers. I can keep going on.
This makes it very tough to find an opponent for her. They would have to be so powerful (ala Silver Surfer) where these things won't matter too much (and still, a writer could have her battling Surfer if they wanted to use all of her continuity. If she can truly perceive the universe as patterns of energy and forces and bend them to her will...you get the drift. However, going by what she has done, if SS came to Earth, he would cream her. If a STorm vs. SS thread started up here, I would definately give it to him.) If you don't have the power to beat her easily, then you likely have powers she can counter and beat easily. She could very easily be an unbeatable character and has been written like that in the past in many issues. Its really hard to find a close match with her.
Sersi vs. Storm is a good fight. I'd say a 50/50.
Exodus (at BloodTies level) vs. STorm is a good fight too. While his TP would be useless against her, he is extremely powerful telekinetically.
Originally posted by inamilist
Didn't you say that Storm could take Thor?If not I apologize, I thought I saw that being tossed around somewhere.
[b]Edit: Wait, are you also saying she beats Iron Man AND Sentry?
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No. She does not beat Sentry. Sentry takes her out. Thor beats STorm too. I don't think he beats her as an elemental, but he has other attributes to his credit that really puts him over the top. This guy has lifted the Midgard Serpent. That creature can wrap around a planet. He was even drinking down the oceans in a story. This guy is bad news. lol!
I felt that Thor was VERY out of place on that list as he FAR outpowers the rest.
Originally posted by ExtraMision5555
storm outpowering iceman???
Easily. The only way he could possibly beat her would be if he were at full potential and she were less than full potential. If he is at less the full potential, she creams him badly. He controls heat. She does too, but in much greater quantities. On top of it, she has much more in her arsenal than he. Its not even a contest as her powers beats his many different ways many times over.
Originally posted by ExtraMision5555
Im sorry, but this is a bit bothersome
Dr. Strange is everything storm wishes she was
At STorm's current power levels and where she is in her mutation, Dr. STrange's powers are certainly more dangerous in a fight. I mean, each one got to have the chance to work their power, Dr. Strange can come up with more scary stuff. However, he is human and has human reaction and has to have time to work his incantation. If Storm is faster on the draw, she will win. If he has the chance to get off a spell, she loses. She has no real defense against his powers that I can think of.
I should have clarified better. Dr. Strange has a more potent arsenal than Storm right now. However, this could change if Storm's powers were to evolve more or if certain aspects of her powers that have been established were established more. As things stand now, however, Dr. Strange has the more potent arsenal.
Originally posted by Rutog98
At STorm's current power levels and where she is in her mutation, Dr. STrange's powers are certainly more dangerous in a fight. I mean, each one got to have the chance to work their power, Dr. Strange can come up with more scary stuff. However, he is human and has human reaction and has to have time to work his incantation. If Storm is faster on the draw, she will win. If he has the chance to get off a spell, she loses. She has no real defense against his powers that I can think of.
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Originally posted by Rutog98so LT > Storm?
At STorm's current power levels and where she is in her mutation, Dr. STrange's powers are certainly more dangerous in a fight. I mean, each one got to have the chance to work their power, Dr. Strange can come up with more scary stuff. However, he is human and has human reaction and has to have time to work his incantation. If Storm is faster on the draw, she will win. If he has the chance to get off a spell, she loses. She has no real defense against his powers that I can think of.
Originally posted by Rutog98
However, he is human and has human reaction and has to have time to work his incantation.
So heres where apples and oranges begin to mix up
Dr. strange has fought people who surpass storm (strictly speed speaking) in every way
not to mention
storm is also a human
a mutant, but a human, none the less
im just a bit confused at waht your trying to say
are you saying storm has a chance against dr strange?
becuase lets be real
she doesnt
Sersi and Exodus, ok
Not Thor and Sentry. Ya, I admit Thor was the one that had me the most bewildered. Hopefully I was just misreading something.
Not Quasar or Surfer, but maybe?
Fastest draw in the west against Strange.... errr
Thats not necessarily the power bracket I'd put Storm in, but I'm done arguing. Danke 😛