50/50 is a wet dream, a very wet one as that. Storm wouldn't even f**k Sersi, Storm gets teleported to space. Just deal with it, Storm can't win for you to keep coming up with different scenarios is ridiculous and sad. I like Storm but she is not even in Sersi or any Eternal or Inhuman league in power. Sersi is consider one of the most powerful beings on earth, including the avengers and eternals.
Just let the thread die.
Originally posted by Rutog98
LOL! This kind of silliness makes you lose credibility. You are saying that all of the Inhumans are more powerful than Storm? That's a laugh. The only one you can make that comment about would be Black Bolt. Gorgon, Crystal, Medusa, Triton, Kanark, etc are all far weaker than Storm.
Black Bolt, Lock Jaw,Malestrom and more powerful ones to be introduce in the silnet war. Crystal is just as powerful as Storm, you lost credibility thinking that Storm can beat Sersi.
Originally posted by the Darkone
Black Bolt, Lock Jaw,Malestrom and more powerful ones to be introduce in the silnet war. Crystal is just as powerful as Storm, you lost credibility thinking that Storm can beat Sersi.
Sorry, Crystal is nowhere near Storm. If you want to do a Storm/Crystal: Who's more powerful thread, go ahead. I will bury you. I'm really sorry to tell you this, but Crystal is an okay-level elemental while Storm is enormously powerful. This goes beyond Storm vs. Sersi. Ororo is an extremely powerful character.
Lock Jaw is nowhere near Storm. Teleportation is his only power. Storm has the power and will to wipe out life on the planet. In space, she can control the energies of stars, planets and even empty space. She can bend all of it to her will as she has a unity with life itself. Your assertions here are beyond ridiculous.
I don't know if I will respond to anymore of your posts. You are trying to argue that Medusa, whose only power is the ability to control her hair with thoughts, Triton (basically like a merman), Gorgon who can create very localized quakes and Kanark are more powerful than Storm? Then you get called on it and try to argue that Crystal is just as strong as Ororo? LOL!
You may disagree with my position, however, I don't think anyone being objective would call me unintelligent with the way I discussed this. They may disagree with my position, but I presented a strong case. Your assertion here is totally ridiculous and completely baseless.
Originally posted by Rutog98
In regards to the willpower, Only Xavier's will has arguably been put on a par with Ororo's. However, Storm has him given her full history on this. The others you've listed have never displayed an indomitable will like Storm has. I think you are referring to the 7 or 8 years when Storm's was written down by the Lobdell/Kelly/Seagle era when you made that comment. The whole thing about Storm's will possibly being the strongest on the planet has very strong comic basis. Magneto's will was stated to be the strongest of all and Storm eventually surpassed him.In regards to Scott's blasts, they move at the speed of light, not faster. Its canon.
Thanks for your reply. I completely understand why you feel Sersi would win. Storm is my favorite character overall while Sersi is my second favorite female character. Sersi is very powerful. I still stand by my 50/50 though. 😄
i'm referring to storm in general over the 30+ years she's been around, uncanny, x-men v2, xtreme etc... 😬
and i think you're severely overstating storm's will... indomitable is a bit much... and magneto is strong willed, but i don't recall him ever being the strongest or any mention of storm surpassing him to be honest...
and you don't think colossus, wolverine, jean, or any of the others have ever shown a strength of will similar to hers? no offence, but i think you are WAY off base...
speed of light? how is that canon when he's been shown to miss alot more than someone with that ability would... and the whole accuracy thing has always been as much of a boost as the speed of his blasts...
if you want to stand by it thats up to you i guess...
Originally posted by pr1983
i'm referring to storm in general over the 30+ years she's been around, uncanny, x-men v2, xtreme etc... 😬and i think you're severely overstating storm's will... indomitable is a bit much... and magneto is strong willed, but i don't recall him ever being the strongest or any mention of storm surpassing him to be honest...
and you don't think colossus, wolverine, jean, or any of the others have ever shown a strength of will similar to hers? no offence, but i think you are WAY off base...
speed of light? how is that canon when he's been shown to miss alot more than someone with that ability would... and the whole accuracy thing has always been as much of a boost as the speed of his blasts...
if you want to stand by it thats up to you i guess...
I'm overestimating Storm's will? Can you show me where Jean or Colossus or any of the other X-Men displayed willpower on a par with Ororo's? I call Ororo's will indomitable because it has been called that many times in comics.
Cyclop's blasts move at the speed of light, yes, but his reaction time is not. Also, in comics, you have characters with no super speed dodging bullets all the time. This is just something that super characters do on a regular basis. Dazzler has missed too and she has laser beams.
Originally posted by Rutog98
I'm overestimating Storm's will? Can you show me where Jean or Colossus or any of the other X-Men displayed willpower on a par with Ororo's? I call Ororo's will indomitable because it has been called that many times in comics.Cyclop's blasts move at the speed of light, yes, but his reaction time is not. Also, in comics, you have characters with no super speed dodging bullets all the time. This is just something that super characters do on a regular basis. Dazzler has missed too and she has laser beams.
Kitty's willpower >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Storm's Willpower 😐
Originally posted by Symmetric Chaos
making up powers doesn't count as arguingso far Storm's fanboys have claimed:
[B]she can dodge light
cause eaethquakes with air the earth's crust
resist high level psycics with ease
manipluate the EM spectrum better than magneto
see people actions before the make them
create a dome of pressure that can stop any attack
control every atom in the earth's atmosphere at will
create winds more powerful than a large nuke
outrace quicksilver
*ramble on for ten minutes*storm is not a bad character but her fans are straigth out of the nut house
sersi kills her without effort by transforming the air in her lungs into pudding [/B]
Originally posted by pr1983
and you don't think colossus, wolverine, jean, or any of the others have ever shown a strength of will similar to hers? no offence, but i think you are WAY off base...
Originally posted by Rutog98
I'm overestimating Storm's will? Can you show me where Jean or Colossus or any of the other X-Men displayed willpower on a par with Ororo's? I call Ororo's will indomitable because it has been called that many times in comics.Cyclop's blasts move at the speed of light, yes, but his reaction time is not. Also, in comics, you have characters with no super speed dodging bullets all the time. This is just something that super characters do on a regular basis. Dazzler has missed too and she has laser beams.
colossus jammed a syringe into his arm, killing himself so that all of mutantkind... doing that takes willpower... and lots of it...
cyclops once had apocalypse possessing him, yet had the strength of will to keep him at bay...
jean has kept the phoenix at bay alot more than most would...
ask any logan fanboy and they'll give you dozens of instances of wolverine's will... a few of em are bound to be valid...
cyclops once said he shot a blast powerful enough to destory a small moon... doesnt mean its true does it?
please show me regular occurances of his blasts moving at the speed of light...
Originally posted by Grimm22
Kitty's willpower >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Storm's Willpower 😐
you actually do have a fair point... in fact, every member of the astonishing team, going by the last arc, has incredible will-power, given that they all were shown their greatest fears, and yet they overcame them... cyclops, colossus, logan, kitty (probably showed the greatest of all), and beast...
all showed incredible willpower...
Originally posted by montrail
Jean? Wolverine? Colosuss? BUAHAHA! NONE of their will power matches Ororo's. Uncanny X-men Annual #10 their are a group of mutants and it is said that of all, Ororo's will was the most powerful. Colosuss and Wolverine happened to be under the category of those other mutants.
it just says, 'hers the strongest will'... first of all, that was in 1986, secondly, they were all KIDS at the time, and thirdly, of the group she was IN...
come on, surely you can do better than that... 😬
everything else, refer to above...
Originally posted by pr1983Indeed. Emma royally fucked Kitty over in the last arc. All in the space of minutes and seconds, Kitty lived a lifetime, and even though it was in her mind it was real to her. She had a child with the man she loved, then had him betray her and had that child taken from her. She was locked in darkness and over what took years in her mind escaped it. Then to save what she believed was her child through sheer determination she forced her way through the Kitty-proofed containment unit of Stuff. Most willpower is a stupid phrase anyway, how does one measure willpower.
you actually do have a fair point... in fact, every member of the astonishing team, going by the last arc, has incredible will-power, given that they all were shown their greatest fears, and yet they overcame them... cyclops, colossus, logan, kitty (probably showed the greatest of all), and beast...all showed incredible willpower...
Originally posted by xmarksthespot
Indeed. Emma royally fucked Kitty over in the last arc. All in the space of minutes and seconds, Kitty lived a lifetime, and even though it was in her mind it was real to her. She had a child with the man she loved, then had him betray her and had that child taken from her. She was locked in darkness and over what took years in her mind escaped it. Then to save what she believed was her child through sheer determination she forced her way through the Kitty-proofed containment unit of Stuff.
exactly...
Most willpower is a stupid phrase anyway, how does one measure willpower.
fair point... some see it as pushing yourself physically even when your body is crying out for you to stop, for some its getting up in the morning when you have a shitty life...
it is a very definite word for a very vague concept...
beyond that, when did we start discussing POTENTIAL power . . .? this whole storm thing really IS starting to get a little out of hand. i like storm, but this kind of discussion does more harm than good to a character. as does basing her POTENTIAL power on an interview that is 30 years old . . . 😕
rutog has done an admirable job of NOT rising to some of the flame-bait that has been sprinkled throughout the thread, but that still does not make me see this thread in any way other than how i first saw it. 😬
Originally posted by pr1983
you actually do have a fair point... in fact, every member of the astonishing team, going by the last arc, has incredible will-power, given that they all were shown their greatest fears, and yet they overcame them... cyclops, colossus, logan, kitty (probably showed the greatest of all), and beast...
Not really 😬
Logan and Beast had to have items to remind themselves who they were and we learned Cyclops took away his ability to control his powers as a boy
Colossus always has shown great willpower. In Torn? Not nearly as much as Kitty
Originally posted by Grimm22
Not really 😬Logan and Beast had to have items to remind themselves who they were and we learned Cyclops took away his ability to control his powers as a boy
Colossus always has shown great willpower. In Torn? Not nearly as much as Kitty
logan and beast were reminded of who they were, but the trauma of knowing what they were turned into could have easily made them crash and burn, same as cyclops...
For those who wanted to know why I posted as I did on the closed "Sersi vs. Storm" thread, we had the debate earlier. My arguments are right here on this thread. I felt that it was closed because the mods and other posters thought the fight was ridiculous. I hope my rebuttles here shows that not only would Sersi have her hands full, but Storm actually has the advantage!
Enjoy!