Originally posted by pr1983
who gave you a keyboard? honestly... they'll let anyone on the forums nowadays...
Honestly, if you really want to get to it, if you had ready, set, go, it would come down to who is quicker on the draw: Storm with her winds, Sersi with her transmutation.
Personally, I wanted to avoid arguments where one party posts "so-and-so can strike faster than the other because in Issue X she did this in X amount of time." Then the other party counters with, "Oh yeah, well in Issue Y, so-and-so did this in Y amount of time." I tried to come up with creative tactics that STorm could use from the get go that were obviously VERY simple, yet effective and much easier than Sersi's powers to avoid the whole scenerio that I just outlined in this paragraph. You can argue that for days and not get anywhere as each party can come up with one issue after another.
The weaknesses I have come up with Sersi are canon and valid. Nothing has been posted to contradict them and Storm's unique powers can take full advantages of those weaknesses. Storm is MUCH more powerful than Sersi by volume. Anyone who disputes this is totally ignorant. Sersi has limits here that Storm can very easily exploit. That sea beast had far too much mass for Sersi to manipulate. She did not say that she may not be able to do it because of size. She stated that it was far too big and that it would kill her to even try.
The whole thing with the blizzard, I am not saying STorm can dump millions of tons of snow in an instant. However, compared to what the weather can generate in terms of mass (especially when Storm can make things happen instantly), that creature is VERY small. Storm doesn't even have to generate as much mass as Godzilla to go well beyond Sersi's limit and she can easily generate more snow in no time flat to equal far greater mass than that sea beast over the battlefield. In real life, it takes hours to get floods or to get any substantial snow. STorm has been able to generate instant floods even while indoors capable of flooding up to the ceiling. Check out the issue where the original Thunderbird dies. While you're at it, check out Uncanny 175 as well. She's been able to generate blizzard so fierce that it can stack up to 10 feet high or so in no time flat. She makes these kinds of storms over a battlefield outside where she has even more tools at her disposal than she did in those indoors instances and its going to be too much for Sersi to transmute. This is a lady who with a gesture altered weather over an entire hemisphere. Imagine what she can do over a battlefield that reaches maybe 3 square miles...
In regards to Sersi transmuting Storm from miles away, no way. Storm can block her thoughts from her and avoid detection. Xmarksthespot brought up Sersi globe scanning. That's nice, but when you have a telepath like Xavier who had a psi-battle with the Dark Phoenix that took place on every plane of reality at once or you have Shadow King who's power is the equal of Xavier's and at times much greater and STorm proving her merits against people with this kind of power...get my drift? HEck, when Xavier was inexperienced, SK was a master and has only grown since. He assaulted Xavier a thousand different ways at once in psi-combat while Xavier was just a novice. This was SK just toying around to when he did that. His skill far outstrips Xavier's. Xavier had a psychic rapport with a lady clear over in another galaxy that he never even met.
White Queen is a strong enough telepath to mind control an entire city. Warskrull had the combined power of Xavier, Psylocke and Oracle.
CC made psis very powerful, however, he had checks and balances. He built up characters like Storm and Magneto to keep the telepaths in check.
Sersi's telepathy is a joke in a fight with Storm. It would be very stupid of her to waste the concentration on TK or TP in a fight against Storm. Storm's will is the strongest of the X-Men's and possibly the strongest on the planet. Don't mess with me here. This is canon. If you can hold onto your thoughts tightly, when telepaths scan for them, they won't be able to spot them or your psi-pattern. In other words, you are invisible to it. A number of X-Men have this mental dicipline. Nightcrawer and Gambit to name two. This is why even Nightcrawler was able to avoid Stryfe's detection of him. Storm's ability to withstand telepaths>Nightcrawler's ability to withstand telepaths. I have more ammo here. Leave it alone.
Storm outpowers Sersi by volume so much its not even funny. What I have asserted from the offset of this discussion is if Storm can get past the first second of the battle, then she has excellent chances at winning. The longer the battle rages, the less Sersi has a chance at winning. This fight isn't going to last very long regardless. Storm's winds can hit much harder than most extreme class 100 strength characters. Again, if you want to challenge me on this, be my guest. I can very easily quantify this for you. Its all in canon. Storm gets her winds up and Sersi will not be able to recover as those winds hit and spin perpetually and will be constantly slamming Sersi against objects in the area with godawful force. Storm can get her winds up instantly. The moment that happens, if SErsi has not been able to get to STorm yet, Storm wins. End of story. If you disagree, tell me how Sersi can counter the winds.
If you are trying to laugh about Storm's ability to create thudershocks that can destroy one's concentration, try this for size: She once knocked a superstrong character out with one thundercrack alone. She's FAR more powerful than distant thunder your hear in real life. I merely brought up Uncanny 179 to show how she used it to shatter the Brotherhood of Evil Mutant's concentration. I merely assert that this is a possible tactic she could use to catch Sersi off guard at the beginning of the fight to distract her.
I maintain the fight is 50/50.
You may disagree, but explain and cut the insults out as its childish.
