Sersi vs Storm

Originally posted by Madvillain
Storm loses just about every battle on these forums. Poor Ororo. Poororo.

Originally posted by Symmetric Chaos
Does sersi NEED to have a psychic lock in order to transmute?

The answer is no since she can transmute inanimate objects so assuming bloodlust (which forum rules does assume) the moment she sees storm blam she reduces her to ash or transmutes her

why exactly would the fight be over when the winds touch her . . .? you seem to be under the impression that somehow the winds are an instant kill.

and cyke's optic blasts move at the speed of light . . .? 😑

Originally posted by Swanky-Tuna
It's because the Storm crap has gotten so bad that kids have been making vs threads with characters they're sure will smash Storm. Meanwhile, the few Storm fans are trying their best to come up with ways their girl can pull off a win, sometimes with proof that may or may not be a little skewed, and trying to put it out there over the sound of the Storm haters patting each other on the butt in celebration of how clever they think they are.

Originally posted by Swanky-Tuna
The bloodlust rule also says the character stays within character so Sersi will have to normally engage in wanton murder. I don't know Sersi though so she might go Black Mage on people all the time.

Originally posted by leonidas
why exactly would the fight be over when the winds touch her . . .? you seem to be under the impression that somehow the winds are an instant kill.

Originally posted by leonidas
and cyke's optic blasts move at the speed of light . . .? 😑

well based on those scans and the description of Storm as a god (albeit limited in some areas) this would end in a stalemate

Originally posted by xmarksthespot
Another thread got off-topic. Rather than continuing off-topic in that thread I made this. And if someone thinks that Storm vs Sersi is a good fight, then I have no problem with making a Storm vs Sersi thread to discuss it. Though if you do, I don't think they've made it mandatory to post in threads you don't like.

Sersi regularly transmutes opponents.

Originally posted by Swanky-Tuna

Is it fatal or just debilitating?

which is worse?

or more importantly harder (in an x/10 format she'd start using easier techniques as the fight went on)

Originally posted by Swanky-Tuna
But do you see how it has quickly degraded into another avenue for bashing Storm fans? It's just powerful annoying. I know I can just skip the threads but it's still going to be there. Festering. Like a wound on a board I thought was full of mostly okay people.

Fact of the matter is I like Storm as a character (although tbh I like her less now than I did since joining the forum), but I don't see why anyone needs her to beat Sersi or Bloodties Exodus, it doesn't lessen the character in any way to lose to more powerful characters or characters with cheap but instakills.

Originally posted by Swanky-Tuna
Is it fatal or just debilitating?

Originally posted by Rutog98
Storm. While I agree Sersi could should have easily beaten Sue, there is a weakness Sersi has that Storm can very easily exploit. Sersi can only transmute a certain amount of mass without killing herself.

I posted this in anothe thread that prompted this thread (X-Factor vs. Storm thread):

In order for Sersi to transmute STorm into anything or punch her, she would have to be able to locate STorm first. Hence, I stated at the very beginning that if Storm can get around Ssersi transmuting her the first second of the battle, the battle becomes messy. If Storm can come up with something quick and clever to put Sersi off balance at the very beginning, Storm can steal Sersi's vision with weather cover and shield her mind from TP detection so that Sersi can't locate her to direct her transmuting attacks or energy blasts or punches anything. Her only hope would be to transmute all of the snow (which is being continually generated in vast quantities by nature compliments of our favorite weather goddess). That's too much mass.

For something clever at the very beginning, Storm could just instantly glow very bring to flash blind Sersi from the offset of the fight. Its simple and quick and should distract Sersi before she can transmute Storm as transmutation is something that much more complex than this.

Originally posted by xmarksthespot
Fact of the matter is I like Storm as a character (although tbh I like her less now than I did since joining the forum)

but I don't see why anyone needs her to beat Sersi or Bloodties Exodus, it doesn't lessen the character in any way to lose to more powerful characters or characters with cheap but instakills.

Originally posted by Symmetric Chaos
which is worse?

or more importantly harder (in an x/10 format she'd start using easier techniques as the fight went on)

I was just curious.

Originally posted by xmarksthespot
They are in that they're extradimensional gravitons according to Mungi. Although it wasn't actually Cyclops firing them, it was Candra using Cyclops.

i don't take what they are made of, they still need to MOVE. why would a graviton -- extra dimensional or not -- be able to move >c . . .? so does that mean ANYONE who dodges them can dodge faster than light attacks? 😕

and yeah, x, your scans basically said the same thing i was thinking . . .

btw, as one who has complete mastery over her atomic structure, why couldn't sersi simply turn intangible and allow the 'lethal' winds to pass through her?

Originally posted by leonidas
i don't take what they are made of, they still need to MOVE. why would a graviton -- extra dimensional or not -- be able to move >c . . .? so does that mean ANYONE who dodges them can dodge faster than light attacks? 😕

And there's also been debate about the other point, Scoobs made a thread about it. No imo dodging a laser or a gun or a Cyclops' blast does not give a character FTL reflexes. It just means aim isn't infallible. And people can anticipate things.

Originally posted by leonidas
and yeah, x, your scans basically said the same thing i was thinking . . .

btw, as one who has complete mastery over her atomic structure, why couldn't sersi simply turn intangible and allow the 'lethal' winds to pass through her?

He still has to think in order to psionically control his visor. And then there's the whole issue with Candra mind controlling him when she dodged his blasts. It seemed as if his trigonometry went out the window.

Speaking of the Visor....
http://img521.imageshack.us/img521/2691/xmen190005qg7.jpg

Originally posted by Brian Oswald
I know Storm can make herself resistant to probing, but prove to me that she can make herself totally immune to TP detection. Sersi just scanning the area and sensing her 😐

Originally posted by Swanky-Tuna
That seems to be the way goes on most comic forums. The thing that kind of depresses me about it is I think the only way to beat them is to amass more knowledge on the character, and at that point you're sick of the character already, than the fanbody and quelsh the flame like that.

Did this stem from that one thread where I think everyone agreed the team Storm was on would win but her fans insisted she'd have a significant role in the win? Possibly in spite of some overly powerful character on her team? I read the first post and immediately knew what was going to happen.

Originally posted by Swanky-Tuna
I guess it would depend. Dying doesn't sound fun but if you're fully conscious as a desk lamp that would suck too.

I was just curious.

Originally posted by xmarksthespot

Originally posted by xmarksthespot
There was a bit of debate about this but I think from what people could find gravitons are massless subatomic particles which apparently move at c. Not a physicist so really don't know.

me either, but unless you believe that the speed of light is not a universal constant, permittivity and permeability (which deal with a particle's ability to transmit and respond to an electric field -- both of which can take place at no more than the speed of light -- they do not allow the transfer of info faster than that . . .) limit the speed of a graviton to c. 😬 factor in as exodus mentioned the time it takes for thought to become action, action to react with the visor, to moment it takes scott to aim . . .

WWAAAYYYYYYYYYYYYY the hell slower than c . . .

And there's also been debate about the other point, Scoobs made a thread about it. No imo dodging a laser or a gun or a Cyclops' blast does not give a character FTL reflexes. It just means aim isn't infallible. And people can anticipate things.

well . . . of course it doesn't . . . 😕

Or just teleport away. For some reason every bio I read about Eternals and teleportation say they don't like doing it and it disorientates them, yet every time I've seen Sersi, Ikaris, etc teleport they do so without any troubles.

or that. and they tend not to like it, but sersi is different -- her mastery is in matter manipulation. teleporting has never bothered her and i have nearly all of her appearances.

How to beat Storm:

1. Get a gun

2. Load it

3. Aim

4. Fire

End 😐

Originally posted by Grimm22
How to beat Storm:

1. Get a gun

2. Load it

3. Aim

4. Fire

End 😐

deathstroke takes her 10/10 with prep. 😉

Originally posted by leonidas
deathstroke takes her 10/10 with prep. 😉

Me >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Halle Berry 😉

Originally posted by Doctor S.T.D.
Storm crushes her, with an Earthquake. 😖hifty:

TEH AIER PERESSUR!