Mad Jim Jaspers (Earth-616) vs. White Phoenix of the Crown

Originally posted by GalacticStorm
Because there are limited appearances of the character. Not everyone has read the same Phoenix threads you have, so not everyone has seen the scans.

And can you list a single Phoenix thread that you have throughly debated in, that stayed clean?

Originally posted by GalacticStorm
The same IG scans get posted over and over and thats also understandable because it too has limited appearances in comparison to a character like Spiderman or Wolverine who have their own titles and decades worth of scans to draw from. However when it comes to IG scans being reposted, i dont see you complaining 😬

You know as well as I do that you would never concede that the Phoenix can be beaten by anything short of LT or TOAA, that's why these kind of threads last a minimum of 20 pages most of the time, and thats why the same scans and essays are in every One of them.

It gets rediculous. 😬

Originally posted by juggernaut66666
Did you know that Firelod is one of the weakest heralds of Galactus?

And yet hes considerably more powerful than Magneto or Xorneto so your point flops and mine is as valid as ever.

Comprehend the point im trying to make before spamming the thread with nonsense. K? 😱

Originally posted by GalacticStorm
And yet hes considerably more powerful than Magneto or Xorneto so your point flops and mine is as valid as ever.

Comprehend the point im trying to make before spamming the thread with nonsense. K? 😱

Edit: Let's try the same 2 attacks on Hercules for instance I wonder what will happen.....

Originally posted by juggernaut66666
So being able to withstand a stab from Wolverine will make her totally Immortal and Indestructible?

No it illustrates the point that if it is her will, she can withstand wounds that would otherwise prove fatal to a mortal body.

Ive mentioned instances of her shrugging off attacks consisting of considerably more power than the EM pulse which killed her so when you consider that in this versus match unlike when she died at Xornetos hands, she isnt bound by her role, she really isnt dying. The whole thing about the Phoenix is that it can NEVER truly die. As per the versus match, if it is within a characters powers to regenerate under their own power straightaway, then the match can go on.

Originally posted by GalacticStorm
No it illustrates the point that if it is her will, she can withstand wounds that would otherwise prove fatal to a mortal body.

Ive mentioned instances of her shrugging off attacks consisting of considerably more power than the EM pulse which killed her so when you consider that in this versus match unlike when she died at Xornetos hands, she isnt bound by her role, she really isnt dying. The whole thing about the Phoenix is that it can NEVER truly die. As per the versus match, if it is within a characters powers to regenerate under their own power straightaway, then the match can go on.

Originally posted by juggernaut66666
Xorneto attacked her with an electro magnetic impulse not with blasts those are different type of attacks......

Edit: Let's try the same 2 attacks on Hercules for instance I wonder what will happen.....

Firelord is more powerful than Xorneto. Firelord can blow up stars and planets if that was his will. Phoenix was punking him in battle, he said he was going to kill her he unleashed a blast and it did nothing.

Jean was in a star and she fed on its power. A star contains a whole lot more electromagnetic energy than anything Xorneto could generate and yet she did NOT die.

My argument was quite clear and coherent Jugg. Read it dont just look at the pretty scans. 😮

Her death was forseen, death being the way for the Phoenix was detailed, her need to die to be reborn for a purpose was detailed. Jean died and she was reborn and performed her purpose.

She did not die through lack of ability or power, she died because of her role. There are plenty of instances of Phoenix abandoning her role and shrugging off a whole lot more power than what Xorneto gave her. Said instances illustrate my point. In a versus match Phoenix is not bound by role. She is out to kill, it will be her will to stay alive.

Originally posted by qqqqqqq
here we go again. mr master vs GS

Each of us, has an opinion

Its good to learn

Originally posted by juggernaut66666
The electro magnetic impulse destroyed her body from the inside while Firelord's attacks only effected her "outside".
You don't have proof that her body could withstand a planet destroying blast or reality manipulation...
Wolverine has insane healing factor but a blast from Nitro totally destroyed his body and killed him.....

The blast never killed her outright. She was still alive for a minute after the attack. If Phoenix wanted to ressurect herself then she would have done, she could have done. She died as she was bound by her role, not through lack of ability. As such your point flops.

Originally posted by GalacticStorm
The blast never killed her outright. She was still alive for a minute after the attack. If Phoenix wanted to ressurect herself then she would have done, she could have done. She died as she was bound by her role, not through lack of ability. As such your point flops.

Originally posted by juggernaut66666
You still don't have proof that her body is indestructible or she cannot be killed.....

I have evidence of her withstanding far greater forces than that which Xorneto used to kill her.

I have evidence of her death being foreseen and her stating that her deaths have purpose. I have scans of her saying she doesnt know how much longer she'll be allowed to stay around, in the same issue she is killed by Xorneto, only to later remanifest and perform the disinfection she was foreseen to be responsible for.

In light of that, once again your argument flops.

I will say once again, that as per forum rules, if it is within a characters own abilities to regenerate and carry on the fight then they can. You know Phoenix can do this, so just what are your arguing?

Phoenix cannot die by any means thus far shown in continuity. The point is stated on panel and in her bio. If youre gonna argue against that then your credibility level goes from its current zero right down into the negatives. 😮

Originally posted by boriquaking55
she's not even skyfather

Hahhaa. What a joke. Jasper is indeed powerful, but Phoenix is one of rare who would take him out.

Probably if WPOTC and Jasper would go all out, Jasper would probably go down quite easily.

Mr Masters, you have had time to post big essays every day this week in multiple threads and yet you would have us believe you have no time to do the sam ething in a challenge thread with me? 😬

BULLshit 👇

Originally posted by GalacticStorm
If youre gonna argue against that then your credibility level goes from its current zero right down into the negatives. 😮

Originally posted by juggernaut66666
**** you you hípocrite.

Run away youngster. Youre barely worthy of a response. 🙁

Talking about credibility who was the one who said that Phoenix is 2nd to TOAA that she can beat Living Tribunal or Michael or Lucifer????

Originally posted by GalacticStorm
Youre barely worthy of a response. 🙁

Still valid. 🙂

Originally posted by GalacticStorm
I have evidence of her withstanding far greater forces than that which Xorneto used to kill her.

Originally posted by juggernaut66666
Wrong. Hercules was able to withstand blast from Fl I'm sure he would get killed by the same EMP.

Yeah. Because Firelords blast is the full extent Jeans durability has been tested. 🙄

You really dont read posts do you? 😬

I wont respond until you come at me with something worthy of my attention. Anyone who reads the big post i put up will know just why i consider responding to this a waste of time. I will not cater to sheer laziness.

Away with you. 🙂

That scan G.S posted with rachel throwing nova into galactus,notice galactus was knocked over,and that was only rachel. now is nova the least powerfull of heralds? or is firelord? and saying one of the least powerfull? at the time of the scans how many heralds are there?

it is plot. anyone who reads comics knows this,it happens in every comic, characters have to be beaten am i right? or they do somthing out of their range of powers that makes you say whoa(spidey vs firelord) that is not right.
it is jeans role G.S makes it clear as day

Originally posted by GalacticStorm
Yeah. Because Firelords blast is the full extent Jeans durability has been tested. 🙄

You really dont read posts do you? 😬

Originally posted by GalacticStorm

In a versus match up where Jean will be out to kill her opponent at all costs, she will not die. Nothing can make her die.