Superman vs. Darkseid

Ok So upon my examination of certain events in the Fights that DS has had with supers, I see too many outside factors that give an unfair represention of the actual battles.

In the Fight with Superman in Superman/Batman, DS clearly was beating the crap out of Superman and had the Advantage until Diana Deflected the OE or OB or what ever it was, and DS Severly Hurt Himself. When Superman Flies DS to the sun, DS is still realing from his own very powerful attack. At some point DS, gets his bearing and says Enough.

http://img135.imageshack.us/my.php?...arkseid5rp4.jpg
http://img144.imageshack.us/my.php?...arkseid6lg1.jpg

Other parts of SUperman and DS battles also intrigue me. When Superman and DS fought, DS has knocked Superman out. But when Superman pushed DS into the source wall, DS was on the wall thinking all that time. This would illustrate that Superman wasn't able to KO DS and very well got his win due to DS being held in check by the Source wall.

So with scrutiny of these "defeats" at the hands of Superman, who really thinks Superman can beat DS WITHOUT those very specific circumstances that affected the over all fights between these two?

Please give fair and subjective responses.

Me.

In all of Superman's career he's proven time and time again that he truly is a complete and utter plot device. If supes wants to do it , It can be done. People believe the mans powers first came from gravity , when that sounded stupid it was changed to solar power , when THAT sounded stupid it's now apparently 'The Source' which is powering him.

What pwns DS 10/10 ?

The Source !

Thus under DC's bullshit Supes makes Ds his prison *****.

Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
Ok So upon my examination of certain events in the Fights that DS has had with supers, I see too many outside factors that give an unfair represention of the actual battles.

In the Fight with Superman in Superman/Batman, DS clearly was beating the crap out of Superman and had the Advantage until Diana Deflected the OE or OB or what ever it was, and DS Severly Hurt Himself. When Superman Flies DS to the sun, DS is still realing from his own very powerful attack. At some point DS, gets his bearing and says Enough.

http://img135.imageshack.us/my.php?...arkseid5rp4.jpg
http://img144.imageshack.us/my.php?...arkseid6lg1.jpg

Other parts of SUperman and DS battles also intrigue me. When Superman and DS fought, DS has knocked Superman out. But when Superman pushed DS into the source wall, DS was on the wall thinking all that time. This would illustrate that Superman wasn't able to KO DS and very well got his win due to DS being held in check by the Source wall.

So with scrutiny of these "defeats" at the hands of Superman, who really thinks Superman can beat DS WITHOUT those very specific circumstances that affected the over all fights between these two?

Please give fair and subjective responses.

Superman>DS

Isn't Galactus on that Source Wall?

Originally posted by guy222
Superman>DS

Isn't Galactus on that Source Wall?

You know, if Supes hadn't already defeated Darkseid, I'd call this spite. Which shows how far DS has fallen. I'm with Grey Fox, this is weak. I mean, yes it's Superman and making him lose is seemingly against DC's rules, but at this rate we might as well call him Squirrel man. 😆

Originally posted by TricksterPriest
You know, if Supes hadn't already defeated Darkseid, I'd call this spite. Which shows how far DS has fallen. I'm with Grey Fox, this is weak. I mean, yes it's Superman and making him lose is seemingly against DC's rules, but at this rate we might as well call him Squirrel man. 😆

I'm with grey fox on this one.

Originally posted by grey fox
Me.

In all of Superman's career he's proven time and time again that he truly is a complete and utter plot device. If supes wants to do it , It can be done. People believe the mans powers first came from gravity , when that sounded stupid it was changed to solar power , when [b]THAT sounded stupid it's now apparently 'The Source' which is powering him.

What pwns DS 10/10 ?

The Source !

Thus under DC's bullshit Supes makes Ds his prison *****. [/B]

So technically the Source wall are the true circumstances behind Superman's supposed victories?

Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
What comics are you reading buddy? Galactus lives in the 616. And I'm not asking you to give us a simple equation, I'm asking you to give a summation of the events that I have posted and tell us if Superman coudl actually beat DS seeing as how DS is the one who actually hurt himself and how Superman has been knocked out by DS but Supers didnt knock DS out. He had to use the source wall to hold DS.

Research facts, my friend

I do read

Its a lot of fun

Originally posted by guy222
Research facts, my friend

I do read

Its a lot of fun

Well then how can you say Galactus is on the source wall when Galactus is a marvel Character and The Source is a DC character?

Darkseid would win every single time. Without plot devices or outside help Superman can't beat Darkseid.

I love Superman he is my favorite character in comicdome but I know he can and shouldn't beat Darkseid on his own power.

Originally posted by Francisco
Darkseid would win every single time. Without plot devices or outside help Superman can't beat Darkseid.

I love Superman he is my favorite character in comicdome but I know he can and shouldn't beat Darkseid on his own power.

superman ftw

Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
Ok So upon my examination of certain events in the Fights that DS has had with supers, I see too many outside factors that give an unfair represention of the actual battles.

In the Fight with Superman in Superman/Batman, DS clearly was beating the crap out of Superman and had the Advantage until Diana Deflected the OE or OB or what ever it was, and DS Severly Hurt Himself. When Superman Flies DS to the sun, DS is still realing from his own very powerful attack. At some point DS, gets his bearing and says Enough.

http://img135.imageshack.us/my.php?...arkseid5rp4.jpg
http://img144.imageshack.us/my.php?...arkseid6lg1.jpg

Other parts of SUperman and DS battles also intrigue me. When Superman and DS fought, DS has knocked Superman out. But when Superman pushed DS into the source wall, DS was on the wall thinking all that time. This would illustrate that Superman wasn't able to KO DS and very well got his win due to DS being held in check by the Source wall.

So with scrutiny of these "defeats" at the hands of Superman, who really thinks Superman can beat DS WITHOUT those very specific circumstances that affected the over all fights between these two?

Please give fair and subjective responses.

And then in another one, he spun in circles real fast and outdid Darkseid, a mob of other guys, and a bunch a parademons at once.

Superman > Darkseid

The fact that DS is coming back with a power up kind of tells me he can't cut the mustard against Kal anymore. However, that power up will just make it all the more sweeter when Kal whoops that ass....again.

But that's not to say that Darkseid still wasn't one of the baddest guys around, he overpowered or slapped around or eye beamed anyone he ran into and treated them like punks. Superman is just more powerful than a lot of posters give him credit for. A lot more powerful. They just can't get over his powerset.

Originally posted by Juntai
But that's not to say that Darkseid still wasn't one of the baddest guys around, he overpowered or slapped around or eye beamed anyone he ran into and treated them like punks. Superman is just more powerful than a lot of posters give him credit for. A lot more powerful. They just can't get over his powerset.

Yeah, but Superman has never pwned DS in true form. DS is always boomtubed or Superman is always boomtubed. So it's kinda ambiguous as to Superman's actual Pwning of DS. How come DS doesn't fight Supers in Giant form like when he made stayne or beat the EASG?

Originally posted by Juntai
But that's not to say that Darkseid still wasn't one of the baddest guys around, he overpowered or slapped around or eye beamed anyone he ran into and treated them like punks. Superman is just more powerful than a lot of posters give him credit for. A lot more powerful. They just can't get over his powerset.

Kinda hard to do that, when the issue from last month, he was beaten or matched by someone much less.

It'd be like Thor stalemating Ulik, only to whoop Ulik's much more powerful father a few months later.

It doesn't jibe.

Darkseid was at one point a great untouchable villain.

He's simply not that guy currently, and lol at whoever thinks otherwise.

Evil_Ash and I made this one. 😄

Originally posted by UniOmni
Kinda hard to do that, when the issue from last month, he was beaten or matched by someone much less.

It'd be like Thor stalemating Ulik, only to whoop Ulik's much more powerful father a few months later.

It doesn't jibe.

Darkseid was at one point a great untouchable villain.

He's simply not that guy currently, and lol at whoever thinks otherwise.

Well Kalibak who is seriously upgraded seems to think so. That is enough for me.

Kalibak got some psybeams and handled his shadow of his former self brother, and spiderman in a different costume.

Not the best crowd to crow at.