Ok I’d just like to point something out to anyone gullible enough to take nvr at face value when he made these statements….
Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
Take Special note at how far back they are watching and influencing events. All the way back when Superman was energy.
Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
Use your noodle for a minute. Think about the time between the Emporer joker saga and that superman batman 25 book. Now also think about the fact that they are looking at and influencing battles as far back as when Superman was an energy creature, becuz we know time means nothing to imps. We also see them using chess pieces to effect the outcome of things, they are playing a game. Don't you see. Joker wants them dead. mxy does not.
Now the page this is the page he was talking about…
And this is the specific panel in question(the image on the TV I mean)…
Unfortunately nvr “forgot” to mention what happened on the pages previous to the scan in question. See there was actually a small chain of events that led to the image on that TV screen that makes things seem just a LITTLE bit different than what nvr's trying to say when viewed as a whole...
And the TV screen on the panel in question...
Mxy and Joker WERE NOT affecting(or even watching) past events, they just pulled various versions of Supes and some others to fight. THAT’S why Blue Supes and the rest were being watched, it doesn’t mean that they were affecting things all the way back to the period of Blue Supes.
Originally posted by darthgoober
Ok I’d just like to point something out to anyone gullible enough to take nvr at face value when he made these statements….Now the page this is the page he was talking about…
And this is the specific panel in question(the image on the TV I mean)…
Unfortunately nvr “forgot” to mention what happened on the pages previous to the scan in question. See there was actually a small chain of events that led to the image on that TV screen that makes things seem just a LITTLE bit different than what nvr's trying to say when viewed as a whole...
And the TV screen on the panel in question...
Mxy and Joker WERE NOT affecting(or even watching) past events, they just pulled various versions of Supes and some others to fight. THAT’S why Blue Supes and the rest were being watched, it doesn’t mean that they were affecting things all the way back to the period of Blue Supes.
I thought that was adressed way back when. I already said that it didn't matter. My opinion wasn't going to change and no one elses was either. Once someone cosmic starts messing around with events, the outcomes are all under scrutiny and thus invalid. Take that as you will. Doesn't change the fact that for this thread, the Op, myself is asking us to examine events and power sets and make a determination. NOT discuss what happened in comics. This is supposed to be an indept look at what is really going on. Not some I think Superman Beats DS. And it's ok if you want to dispute what I'm saying about mxy and the joker that is fine. It doesn't change the fact that the story happened and two Cosmic Dieties had thier hands in the pie.
Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
I thought that was adressed way back when. I already said that it didn't matter. My opinion wasn't going to change and no one elses was either. Once someone cosmic starts messing around with events, the outcomes are all under scrutiny and thus invalid. Take that as you will. Doesn't change the fact that for this thread, the Op, myself is asking us to examine events and power sets and make a determination. NOT discuss what happened in comics. This is supposed to be an indept look at what is really going on. Not some I think Superman Beats DS. And it's ok if you want to dispute what I'm saying about mxy and the joker that is fine. It doesn't change the fact that the story happened and two Cosmic Dieties had thier hands in the pie.
Originally posted by TheGame17how the hell is that logic. u actually have the two characters in the same comics in dc and one has kicked the shit outta the other. when has darkseid ever beaten the silver surfer? 😆 ur saying canon stuff doesnt count but asking us t all belive darkseid crushes surfer when it neevr has happened. u were wrong about loeb dont get all personal. he corrected u. its good to have these lies and false representations gone. its not true. supes beat his ass becuz in a hand to hand hes better than darkseid. darkseid has better powers and in general should take a majority but if it comes to blows darkseid better look out and duck. supes packed a punch and beat his ass straight up. it wasnt written by loeb wither. 💃
kid? kid? **** you. i've been here loger than you have.that pic is inaccurate. i don't cry, i get pissed off! there's a difference.
ignorance? where did u get this bullshit information anyway? have u ever read a ****in Jack Kirby Darkseid? that kicks supes ass any day.
i do read u ****er! how the shit can u say i don't?
u know what math and variables are? let me ****in show you:
D= darkseid S= superman
D > S
here's another example: thanos (whose arguably equal to darkseid) has beaten silver surfer quite easily. silver surfer has claimed to be greater than superman in power. so, if darkseid can beat silver surfer, than darkseid can certainly defeat superman. that's logic.
Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirlhe stated in comic it was the omega effect its black and white and plain as day. not like ur mxy crap about chess game. darkseid omegas werent good enough to beat supes. its canon and happened.
Or the writer didn't know what they **** he was doing. the OE is ALWAYS proceeded by the finders. Oh one more thing. The True OE goes thru barriers. Go figure.
Originally posted by WrathfulDwarfyeah that says enough. jack kirby was the only one who had darkseid unbeatable. its funny people will say jeph loeb is a superman fanboy and was the only writer to have superman win, but its false. other writers have done it. kirby though was a darkseid fanboy but thats ok becuz thats how darkseid is supposed to be right, unbeatbale and neevr losing. its funny what somone would actually say jack kirbys darkseid. hahahahahahhaha like hes different. the next thread will be jack kirby darkseid vs jeph loeb superman. i mean come on people.
A more proper way to put it......."Jack Kirby's Darkseid beats Superman 24/7"
Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
I thought that was adressed way back when. I already said that it didn't matter. My opinion wasn't going to change and no one elses was either. Once someone cosmic starts messing around with events, the outcomes are all under scrutiny and thus invalid. Take that as you will. Doesn't change the fact that for this thread, the Op, myself is asking us to examine events and power sets and make a determination. NOT discuss what happened in comics. This is supposed to be an indept look at what is really going on. Not some I think Superman Beats DS. And it's ok if you want to dispute what I'm saying about mxy and the joker that is fine. It doesn't change the fact that the story happened and two Cosmic Dieties had thier hands in the pie.
Good post. 👆
Originally posted by TheGame17
just because u put NEVER in caps doesn't make what u say true. it's bullshit and yur just saying it to keep this going.
LOL.
This is what happens when the ignorant Darkseid apologists see their delicate world view shattered. they were lied to. Darksied has NEVER been the dominant beast they imagine him to be outside of The Great Darkness Saga. and he has NEVER beaten Superman striaght up in Pre-Crisis continuity, not even once. THEY NEVER EVEN FOUGHT.
This is what happens when you have Darkseid fetishists like Jimmy and nverbeenwithagirl(SMH) misrepresenting and lying about the facts of the actual comics.
But just for kicks, why don't you go ahead and give the comic where Darksied EVER defeated Superman straight up.
Originally posted by Evil_Ash
You mean something like this?
Nah, more like this IN CONTINUITY stuff:
1987:
2001:
2003:
2004:
http://img505.imageshack.us/img505/1012/img021gr4.jpg
2005:
I like how the only dense the Darkised fanatics use is out of continuity material, as opposed to the fact that thre real Darkseid that gets tooled by Superman regularrly nowadays.
Originally posted by panthergod
LOL.This is what happens when the ignorant Darkseid apologists see their delicate world view shattered. they were lied to. Darksied has NEVER been the dominant beast they imagine him to be outside of The Great Darkness Saga. and he has NEVER beaten Superman striaght up in Pre-Crisis continuity, not even once. THEY NEVER EVEN FOUGHT.
This is what happens when you have Darkseid fetishists like Jimmy and nverbeenwithagirl(SMH) misrepresenting and lying about the facts of the actual comics.
But just for kicks, why don't you go ahead and give the comic where Darksied EVER defeated Superman straight up.
YOu are silly. DS has defeated Superman many times. he just gets rid of him like he's nothing. He's humiliated Clark a few times. He's Superior to Superman in skill, Speed, Strength, Durability and power. He's moved so fast that he caught clark off guard. He's taken punches from clark letting lose and sun amped. He's lived thru a blitz from a powered up doomsday. Clark died when beaten by a weaker Doomsday.
