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Originally posted by darthmaul1
I was refering to the fact that star wars tells the stories visually (even 4 5 and 6) and not only with CGI, but since you bring up the CGI, i still feel the CGI in 1 2 and 3 (look at dex in 2) and in LOTR are better IMO. Don't get me wrong the CGI in Avatar is great but i think for me it is the fact that they are blue and it's such a drastic difference that it doesn't look as good. imagine if the oliphants in ROTK were blue it wouldn't look real.

well doesn't avatar use cgi in a profound way to help tell the story too?

and dex was ok. he didn't wow me. i do remember how detailed his breathing mechanisms were with that pouch he had under his jaw and how it would act like a lung of some sort, but he didn't wow me like the like Na'vi do. And LOTR is Weta Digital by the way.

And the blue's skin's there but if you have the eye you'll see appropriate wrinkles and skin textures down to imperfect pores then add near perfect human facial expressions. Blue Olilphats would've looked silly i'll admit but blue aliens. i could imagine that. We easily imagine or come up with green or grey ones don't we. We have blue human like characters in our culture in society now anyway. Smurfs, blueman group, etc. That's more acceptable than a big blue Oliphant. So that's why it would'nt be such a annoyance or something that'd get in the way.

Also compare Pandora to sw's Felucia visually. Pandora blows it out the water.

My point is, is that visually sw cannot compare to Avatar.

Is this better then the Lotr Trilogy ? I have not seen it yet

Originally posted by FistOfThe North
yea but avatar's taking it to a whole new higher level. much more grander than what the sw new trilogy has done.

and the new trilogy didn't really experiment with real-like human-like facial expressions and skin textures and emotion as profoundly as avatar does.

and we're talking about Weta Digital here which is in my opinion a better cgi house that ILM is. And more innovative. Look at their recent track record from about the past 10 years compared to ilm's and Weta wins.

basically, and anyway, sw cgi is subpar compared to avatars' cgi.

Well, I hate to piss on your parade, but Cameron used ILM to help finish Avatar.

http://news.cnet.com/8301-13772_3-10419046-52.html

yea but "ILM's overall contribution to the finished film was minor compared to Weta's"

And "About 95% of the visual effects were done by WETA."

http://www.kristinthompson.net/blog/?p=1019

Does WETA have its own ranch? I don't think so, Fisty.

Originally posted by coolmovies
Is this better then the Lotr Trilogy ? I have not seen it yet

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAA

not even close. 😐

Originally posted by FistOfThe North
i'm gotta have that dead center seat all the time. or as close as i can get.

3 more days.

and i'll have a full review on my opinion of the film when i get back.

This may seem weird, but, I experiment in the theater, looking for the acoustical "sweet spot."

However, with the new all digital theater in more, by Warren Theaters, all I had to do was ask the General Manager where the acoustical sweet spot was in the Grand Auditorium. (THX certified theater.) He told me that the THX certifiers found the "sweet spot" to be in the middle about 3/5s down the rows. it's the shortest middle row in the theater, so it's kind of obvious that the seating was designed to accommodate the acoustics of the theater...and blatantly point to the sweet spot.

I'm an minor audiophile, btw. For me, sound is a major element in a film...much more so than most people.

Originally posted by darthmaul1
Don't get me wrong the CGI in Avatar is great but i think for me it is the fact that they are blue and it's such a drastic difference that it doesn't look as good. imagine if the oliphants in ROTK were blue it wouldn't look real.

I understand what you're saying. Though I disagree, I can still see why the blue color would take away from the realism for some. However, you'll see much more variety in color in the jungle, including rad-tastical blues.

Originally posted by Robtard
Does WETA have its own ranch? I don't think so, Fisty.

No. But does that make them a better visual effects house? Sure ILM's won 16 Oscars for visual effetcts compared to WETA's 4 but that's partly because "ILM"'s got what, a little more than decade on WETA.

But it all begins with Avatar. Actually the cgi in the lotr trilogy looked better than the SW (nt) cgi. Compare Gollum and Yoda.

WETA's the new ILM.

Originally posted by FistOfThe North
No. But does that make them a better visual effects house? Sure ILM's won 16 Oscars for visual effetcts compared to WETA's 4 but that's partly because "ILM"'s got what, a little more than decade on WETA.

But it all begins with Avatar. Actually the cgi in the lotr trilogy looked better than the SW (nt) cgi. Compare Gollum and Yoda.

WETA's the new ILM.

They are both AWESOME at what they do. I like work from either.

I thought that the bad guy in this movie was one of the best villains I've ever seen. I hated him so much during the movie that he almost seemed real.

Avatar Breaks Dark Knight and Spider-Man Records
Source:ComingSoon.net
January 3, 2010

ComingSoon.net reports that James Cameron's Avatar has reached $1.02 billion at the worldwide box office after just 17 days, surpassing the $1 billion earned by The Dark Knight in 2008. It also broke Spider-Man's third weekend record domestically:

James Cameron's Avatar (20th Century Fox) continues to be one of the biggest box office phenomenons of the decade--much like Titanic in the prior decade--having grossed $350 million after just 17 days and crossing the one billion mark worldwide. It set a new Near Year's Day weekend box office record with its estimated $68.3 million, down just 10% from Christmas weekend and making it the highest third weekend gross for a movie domestically (surpassing the $45 million made by Spider-Man in 2002).

By next weekend, Cameron's comeback will hit the $400 million mark and by next Sunday, it should pass Michael Bay's Transformers: Revenge of the Fallen to become the highest-grossing movie of 2009, as well as breaking into the Top 10 highest-grossing movies (domestically) of all time.

Internationally, Avatar has grossed $670.2 million which brings its worldwide total to $1.02 billion, making it the fourth-highest grossing movie worldwide EVER, and that's after being in theaters for only 17 days, too. It has surpassed the worldwide gross for The Dark Knight and only needs $46 million more to beat Pirates of the Caribbean: Dead Man's Chest. (Currently, Cameron's Titanic still holds the worldwide grossing record with $1.84 billion with $600 million of that domestically.)

What's so remarkable about the movie's success, besides how much of that money is being made in 3D and IMAX venues (with many daily sell-outs still being reported ), is that Avatar is also the biggest non-sequel since George Lucas' original Star Wars and Steven Spielberg's E.T.: The Extraterrestrial. By the end of January, it should have surpassed both of their non-adjusted box office takes. It's still a few days behind Christopher Nolan's The Dark Knight, which had the benefits of opening in summer, while Avatar will be facing moviegoers' return to school and work starting tomorrow, so we'll have to see whether it can cross the $533 million mark to become the second-highest grossing movie after Cameron's own Titanic.

Avatar just got up to $1,098,736,685 beating POC: Dead Man's Chest. Putting it #3

listen, i think there is no comparason to any other move ever made,
(graphics wise)Avatar was visually stunning, and by far, the best movie ever made(graphics-wise)But in my opinion i think its the best movie ever made period, maybe tied with starwars, and mayyybe... LOTR.

Whoa.

If this beats Titanic at least people wont complain why it made so much money .

Originally posted by magicturtle
listen, i think there is no comparason to any other move ever made,
(graphics wise)Avatar was visually stunning, and by far, the best movie ever made(graphics-wise)But in my opinion i think its the best movie ever made period, maybe tied with starwars, and mayyybe... LOTR.

Sure, it's the best film ever made if you're not considering acting, script or plot. Easily better than The Godfather.

Originally posted by FistOfThe North
well doesn't avatar use cgi in a profound way to help tell the story too?

and dex was ok. he didn't wow me. i do remember how detailed his breathing mechanisms were with that pouch he had under his jaw and how it would act like a lung of some sort, but he didn't wow me like the like Na'vi do. And LOTR is Weta Digital by the way.

And the blue's skin's there but if you have the eye you'll see appropriate wrinkles and skin textures down to imperfect pores then add near perfect human facial expressions. Blue Olilphats would've looked silly i'll admit but blue aliens. i could imagine that. We easily imagine or come up with green or grey ones don't we. We have blue human like characters in our culture in society now anyway. Smurfs, blueman group, etc. That's more acceptable than a big blue Oliphant. So that's why it would'nt be such a annoyance or something that'd get in the way.

Also compare Pandora to sw's Felucia visually. Pandora blows it out the water.

My point is, is that visually sw cannot compare to Avatar.

i know what you are saying but i was simply commenting that you had said"Avatar's a technologically advanced movie. i marks the start of something very special in history in filmmaking and the way a story's told from a visual spectrum. " and i responded that star wars had done that. I am not saying the CGI in avatar was bad by any means it was fantastic. all i am saying is it may of benifited if the aliens weren't as blue. (such a drastic shift)

It's officially # 2 YEAH
http://movies.yahoo.com/news/usmovies.accesshollywood.com/avatar-climbs-no-2-alltime-box-office

Originally posted by xJLxKing
It's officially # 2 YEAH
http://movies.yahoo.com/news/usmovies.accesshollywood.com/avatar-climbs-no-2-alltime-box-office

Cool n'stuff.

I hope it keeps doing well and earns over 9000.

I hope it beats titanic as Titanic is just not a good enough film to be at the top spot...neither is Avatar, but it's certainly much better than Titanic.

Originally posted by dadudemon
I hope it beats titanic as Titanic is just not a good enough film to be at the top spot...neither is Avatar,

Has'nt got anything to do with you over analyzing the movie ??