Apocalypse Vs. Superman

Originally posted by TricksterPriest
I wasn't expecting to Apoc to beat Supes in an outright fight. But drawing even is possible. Hell, he should get at least 3-4 wins. This should show that Apoc is seriously underrated. How come no one addressed my idea of Apoc turning part of himself into kryptonite or adamantium? That's well within his abilities and it would give him the win over supes.

He doesn't have cosmic awareness (he won't get his weakness), and he has never turned into adamantium.

So no, he still loses.

He's got as many wins over Xavier

as a table has over him.

Please one little oneshot doesn't mean anything other then bad writing.

Who's to say he won't be able to scan Supes and replicate the effect of Kryptonite based on physiology? Or get the info from his mind?

why you poeple always talking about that stupid chair i guess your ability to read is off when you read that HE LEFT CAUSE THE DAMN OCEAN MIGHT HAVE CAVED IN CAUSE NAMOR IS A DUMB DUMB WHO ALMOST BROKE THE WINDOW THAT WAS HOLDING THE OCEAN OUT. IF APOC HADNT DODGED YOU KNOW WHAT WOULD HAVE HAPPEND TO HIM NOTHING THE CHAIR WOULDNT HAVE DONE A DARN THING, GET OVER IT ALREADY.

Originally posted by TricksterPriest
Who's to say he won't be able to scan Supes and replicate the effect of Kryptonite based on physiology? Or get the info from his mind?

Or how is he going to break into Supes mind (basically just that), and somehow extract that information while they are fighting?
Is Supes just going to stop and say, "No, I insist, just read my mind while I let you get my weakness, and I won't attack you or nothing, I promise mister." Did that sound right to you?

Originally posted by Mider999
why you poeple always talking about that stupid chair i guess your ability to read is off when you read that HE LEFT CAUSE THE DAMN OCEAN MIGHT HAVE CAVED IN CAUSE NAMOR IS A DUMB DUMB WHO ALMOST BROKE THE WINDOW THAT WAS HOLDING THE OCEAN OUT. IF APOC HADNT DODGED YOU KNOW WHAT WOULD HAVE HAPPEND TO HIM NOTHING THE CHAIR WOULDNT HAVE DONE A DARN THING, GET OVER IT ALREADY.

everybody knows that the "table incident" is ridiculous and no one brings it up seriously in an argument or considers it a valid assesment of Apoc's power

Apocalypse can augment this and that, yes. Lets not forget there has not been something that Supes hasn't been able to do, lift, move, etc.

His mass amount of strength and speed alone put him in the majority above apocalypse. This would be like saying Apocalypse is going to be able to hit the flash, it isn't going to happen. Just so happens in this instance "flash" could hit him hard enough to knock him to the next planet. Apocalypse left standing after a near lightspeed full powered hit from a non holding back supes? Doubt it.

superman repeatedly beats darkseid even though he shouldn't. The same case lies here. Darkseid would destroy Apocalypse. It's irrelivent to this thread, but i felt that needed to be said. Superman would find a way to beat Apocalypse every single time. It annoys me how many people hate superman, but IMO Superman should win

Originally posted by Mider999
why you poeple always talking about that stupid chair i guess your ability to read is off when you read that HE LEFT CAUSE THE DAMN OCEAN MIGHT HAVE CAVED IN CAUSE NAMOR IS A DUMB DUMB WHO ALMOST BROKE THE WINDOW THAT WAS HOLDING THE OCEAN OUT. IF APOC HADNT DODGED YOU KNOW WHAT WOULD HAVE HAPPEND TO HIM NOTHING THE CHAIR WOULDNT HAVE DONE A DARN THING, GET OVER IT ALREADY.

Because we all know

the best way to keep a window from seeping in ocean water

is to move out the way and let a chair break it.

Pooky's a genius.

Originally posted by TricksterPriest
The battle of the complete opposites. Non-jobbing Apoc vs. regular Superman.

Supes>Apoc

Originally posted by AngelCorpse6977
If we're talking Apocalypse at his full potential against regular Superman, than Apocalypse may get a 3 or 4 out of 10.

Full potential Apocalypse Vs. against regular Superman, Apocalypse 10/10.

And Apocalypse could literally be a bad match up for Superman, you know, kryptonite.

And since he is smart, I think Apocalypse would find out about kryptonite sooner or later and quickly.

Style can make fight and Apocalypse may very well be a bad match up for Superman.

Problem being, Apocalypse doesn't have cosmic awareness nor does he have two shits of a clue about kryptonite or it's effect on superman.

Mind you this is just Apocalypse with the "Im not a dumb shit" written on his forhead

I beg to see Apocalypse use any of the TO virus that heat vision couldn't easily melt away.

Supes easily over powers him in the strength department. By far faster. Has energy projection. Is fast enough to cancel out teleportation. Is used to fighting side by side one of the best shapeshifters. Used to fighting side by side one of the strongest telepaths. Can easily hold up to his TP attacks. Etc

Supes beats him with little effort, and thats without making him cry like a girl via T-Vo, bloodlusted, or sundipping. Add those three in, and Apocalypse doesn't even get to think about 1/10

Speedblitz?

I think when all the Kryptonite in the world is channeled though a Krytonian warship capable of conquering whole world and it only causes Superman to wince, means Krytonite lacks the punch it used to.

Can Apocalypse become intangible?

Originally posted by Aqua-pimp
I never really understood Superman he never goes all out..

When he's fighting supervillans.. wrestling and sweeting them and stuff and he finaly defeats them it turns out he just used 1% of his powerlevel...😐 You've could of ended that fight in two seconds Supes!! So whats the deal? you like wrestling grown ass super villans in spandex?😬

Subconscious mind blocks prevent him from using his powers to their Full potential, he has very limited control over them, Its like trying to stop youre heart or preventing youre liver from working. One just cannot do it. Plus when even when Supes is using less than 1% of his power level, the fights rarely last more than a few min.

Supes has also at periods become intangiable and also used flash's ability to "phase" through objects.

Apocalypse needed Cable's help in order to travel into the astral dimension 😄

Originally posted by Jyppe
Apocalypse needed Cable's help in order to travel into the astral dimension 😄

Impossible! POOKY'S > X

Cables over X too according to what he states, before losing his powers his was the worlds most powerful telepath...odd yea I know..