Originally posted by Stoic
You deemed it terrible because you did not understand why I brought it up. It wasn't to low ball the Hulk, but to show that he has different levels. You can't believe that I think that Spider Man could KO, a fully enraged Hulk capable of going at it with Thor, or the Abomination in a slug fest. Or do you you think that was what I was saying? My point again was that the Hulk has different levels of his strength.Thor wasn't going all out on Spider man, and wasn't that Masterson Thor in that scan? When did you ever see Spider Man do that to the true Odinson? What was the reason behind Captain America KOing the Hulk with a punch? When was the last time Captain America was considered to have Herald level strength on par with Thor?
As for the Grey Hulk. How many fights were Mr. Fixit in, and how many times has he turned green? When he fought the Avengers did he turn green when he was fighting them? Ms. Marvel alone based on your scans was able to over power that very same Mr. Fixit. this is either due to writer inconsistencies, or that he actually has varying degrees in his strength. You sitting there and denying this goes against the idea that the Hulk has always had dynamic strength. So what's it going to be, is his strength static, or dynamic Carver?
What happened in his battles with the Abomination Carver? Was he as strong as Blonsky at the onset of combat, or did he increase in strength as the fight went on? The symbiote made him far stronger recently than it did back when he first began bonding with the alien. Far weaker characters than Thor have pushed the symbiote wearing Spider man around in the past. this is just one more case of your misrepresentation or twisting of the truth.
😐 A scan was posted on page 13 with Spiderman ko'ing Thor. What is wrong with you? The reason Spiderman koed Thor is due to the same reason Spiderman koed Hulk, Firelord, Carnage Surfer, and the list goes on. He koed all of these people because it's a low showing. You hand picking the Hulk out of the numerous of Heralds Spiderman has dropped is laughable at best. Extremely laughable. An enraged Spiderman pounded on Wolverine and couldn't drop him, does that put Wolverine durability above the people Spiderman has koed. Think for a little bit buddy. And Hulk does have different levels of strength, too bad he starts at high Herald which has been proven time and time again (in which you CONTINUE to ignore). A calm Hulk has held up a mountain twice the size of the Appalachians, a calm Hulk has Punched a ship the size of a continent across space. Sigh...just read some of Hulk comics, especially the dumb Hulk, you'll see what I am telling you.
Masterson Thor gave the real Thor a fight that lasted almost an entire comic...trading blows. He was getting worked by Spiderman and again, Spiderman has koed Thor. Hell, Captain America has laid into Odin Force Thor. The reason Cap koed the Hulk was due to it being a low showing. Do you know what low showings are or do you honestly believe that Green Hulk base strength is 1 ton (which is Cap strength level)? Look at Cap fts.
Wait, why are you asking me questions about Fixit? You should know how many fights he's been in. I provided you scans of him turning green when pissed. Just because you don't want to accept it because it goes against your entire argument (just like every other scan i posted goes against your argument) doesn't make it not true.
Huh, no one is saying Hulk doesn't have dynamic strength...we are discussing where it starts at. Just because Odin have Dynamic strength doesn't mean he starts at street level.
WTF. What do you mean what happened with his fight against Abomination? Sometimes he wins, sometimes he loose. Abomination is to Hulk what Kurse is to Thor, both are meant to be stronger than them (Hulk and Thor). The difference is, Hulk can ramp up his Strength past Abomination. At one point, it was stated on panel that Abomination was 4 times stronger than Hulk, doesn't take away from what I've said, especially about Current Hulk.
Prove that the symbiote works different on Spiderman than what it did before. Provide scans. Can you provide scans of anything you said or are we going the memory route again? You honestly don't have anything.
