Originally posted by carver9
Lol...a little color, Hulk made Thor say "there's no limit to his strength" while getting punted away. That fight was a massacre...a humiliation and it proves that Hulk is physically above Thor. Good endurance showing for Thor though. To withstand a beating of the highest caliber but the physical tier between both is obvious. Thor couldn't even slow Hulk down and Hulk was becoming more powerful whereas Thor was getting weaker while the fight progressed.😂 Their first fight.
So, you admit that Hulk couldn't beat Thor H2H and ran away twice? Good then we're on the same page. Adding in Bill makes it spite.
Originally posted by carver9
Then the narrator states..."it's done. In the end, words don't matter...only power, only STRENGTH".
FYI, the "It is done" was not part of the narration, it was said by Talbot.
Samson: "Don't do it!" (as in "don't drop the nuke"😉
Talbot: "It is done."
But you just took it off its context, snipped half a page worth of narration, and re-attached it in a place where it would make the narration look like Thor had lost a contest of strength.
You should feel ashamed.
Originally posted by Magnon
FYI, the "It is done" was not part of the narration, it was said by Talbot.Samson: "Don't do it!" (as in "don't drop the nuke"😉
Talbot: "It is done."But you just took it off its context, snipped half a page worth of narration, and re-attached it in a place where it would make the narration look like Thor had lost a contest of strength.
You should feel ashamed.
I felt like I should add that because during that time it was done and also, what you denied was wrong since I clearly showed you what happened but yeah, if you exclude the "it's done" comment, my post still hold weight. Hulk overpowered him with one freaking arm.
Originally posted by carver9
I felt like I should add that because during that time it was done and also, what you denied was wrong since I clearly showed you what happened but yeah, if you exclude the "it's done" comment, my post still hold weight. Hulk overpowered him with one freaking arm.
Sigh. That's not overpowering Thor. He grabbed Thor's head, and tripped him. In the pictured position there was no chance for a contest of strength, Thor didn't have any leverage. Besides, Thor was back up in a second.
Spider-Man has thrown Hulk down on multiple occasions as well, it doesn't mean he overpowered Hulk (or does it, in your opinion?).
http://www.leaderslair.com/gammapeople/hulksmashes/amazingspider-man119.jpg
http://lounge.moviecodec.com/images/attachment/wolverine-vs-captain-america-vs-spider-man-triple-threat-13626.jpg
http://lounge.moviecodec.com/images/attachment/wolverine-vs-captain-america-vs-spider-man-triple-threat-13625.jpg
Originally posted by Magnon
Sigh. That's not overpowering Thor. He grabbed Thor's head, and tripped him. In the pictured position there was no chance for a contest of strength, Thor didn't have any leverage. Besides, Thor was back up in a second.Spider-Man has thrown Hulk down on multiple occasions as well, it doesn't mean he overpowered Hulk (or does it, in your opinion?).
http://www.leaderslair.com/gammapeople/hulksmashes/amazingspider-man119.jpg
http://lounge.moviecodec.com/images/attachment/wolverine-vs-captain-america-vs-spider-man-triple-threat-13626.jpg
http://lounge.moviecodec.com/images/attachment/wolverine-vs-captain-america-vs-spider-man-triple-threat-13625.jpg
Grabbing him and pushing him downward isn't overpowering (which is completely different than your scan. Is that even canon?).
Then right after that Thor tried to attack Hulk and got punched almost out of orbit with it leading to the quote I said previously to you (only strength and power is what matters). Then this was Warrior Madness Thor that Hulk was matching. A Thor that is far more powerful than Bill and Regular Thor combined.
Originally posted by carver9
@ Stoic...I have come to realize you know nothing of the Hulk. Now it's time for my wall of text and then you try to use low showings to help your terrible argument against the Hulk not knowing Thor share the same showings. Let's begin.
You do know that the angrier Grey Hulk gets it usually reverts to his Savage persona which would be Savage Hulk's base. If you're sitting here telling me that an angry Grey Hulk can reach or exceed HIGH herald levels then that means that base Savage starts off at that level since anger from Grey is what reverts him to his Green persona.
Now let's get back to you lowballing Hulk with Spiderman. Lol...Spiderman has fought Thor and actually had an advantage against him at some points. Hell, recently Superior Spiderman with the symbiote took on the Avengers and took Thor out of the fight with a shield bash while mocking his strength...
Then we have this showing.
http://smg.photobucket.com/user/guyverjay/media/Thor_44803.jpg.html
Thor vs Wolverine.
http://s388.photobucket.com/user/OneDumbG0/media/Thor%20Fights/ThorvsWolverine012.jpg.html
http://s388.photobucket.com/user/OneDumbG0/media/Thor%20Fights/ThorvsWolverine02.jpg.html
http://s388.photobucket.com/user/OneDumbG0/media/Thor%20Fights/ThorvsWolverine03.jpg.htmlThen he withstood Thor lightning.
http://s388.photobucket.com/user/OneDumbG0/media-full/Thor%20Fights/ThorvsWolverine04.jpg.html
I can post more, a lot more if you want. I guess this means Thor starts below high herald strength. Honestly though, you have to admit, your arguments aren't good at all. You bring up things but never realize that others have been through the same thing (by the way, for the past 15 yrs, Spiderman and Cap has been insects to the Hulk). You make statements without evidence. No one ever said that Hulk strength has a cap but it does start at high Herald. I just freaking showed you a fight between a Hulk that could NOT get angry but was still able to match Thor. Guess what you did, you ignored it. I just posted a scan of Grey Hulk exceeding 100 tons, showing high Herald strength but you ignored it because you're stubborn and you debate against a character you have no knowledge of. Not realizing that the angrier Grey Hulk gets he reverts to Savage Hulk's base. So if Grey Hulk ramps up to high Herald physically and reverts to his Green Savage mode, what does that make base Hulk?
😂 Five minutes for Hulk to ramp up his Strength? Where did you get that from? It had been stated on panel that it takes seconds for Hulk's strength to increase exponentially. SMH. Post a scan of where you got this from.
Stoic, every time I debate against you I am going to say this because you have a bad habit of writing things from your head...things that you think it should be that way. I DONT CARE ABOUT YOUR THOUGHTS ON THESE CHARACTERS. POST PROOF. PROVIDE SCANS. This isn't hard to do. Show me where you are getting this from or concede. Also, I provided evidence to you before with a current calm Hulk exceeding High Herald strength but like usual you wrote a bible on 'your thoughts' (without evidence of course) and ignored it. Now again, I don't care what you think because you're wrong. Provide proof backing up your claims or stop replying to me (5 minutes for him to ramp? Really).
This is proof that you are either very deceitful, or your comprehension skills are very low. You post scans of Spider Man with the symbiote. Once again misrepresenting things like you are prone to do. None of what you were talking about had anything to do with my point whatsoever. You didn't overturn anything that I wrote Carver, you only showcased your deceitfulness. Re-read what I wrote, and tell me what these scans have to do with anything.
You take two times when the Grey Hulk turns into the Savage Hulk, but then attempt to ignore all of the times that Mr.Fixit has been in fights and never once changed into the Savage Hulk. When the Grey Hulk ramped up strong enough to avoid being killed by the asteroid larger than the Earth, he did not turn into the Savage Hulk. So what we have are hundreds of times that he did not turn into the Savage Hulk vs the couple of times that he has.
Originally posted by carver9
Yep, everything you've said is true but guess what, that makes all of them under class 100.😉
That's just Stoic way of debating. He find the lowest of fts and try to use it against a character and then the character he is debating for, he grants them abilities. You'll get use to it.
Also, per Stoic, Thor is class 25 using fights like these.
http://s26.photobucket.com/user/A_Flight2/media/WebofSpider-Man105-14-1.jpg.html
Thanks for convincing me friend.
You're comprehension skills are very low Carver. This is just another example that proves it. Where did you disprove anything that I wrote? You simply either did not read what I wrote out of ignorance, or you sidestepped it completely posting irrelevant scans in order for you a paint over the way that the Hulk's powers actually work.
Originally posted by Khazra Reborn
Hulk didn't prove anything. He proved he couldn't get the job done, Thor was trying to get him to keep going, but he ran like his lady parts were on fire.
"Is there no limit to the Hulk's strength".
http://s226.photobucket.com/user/HulkFights/media-full/Vs%20Thor/Fight%203/15.jpg.html
Hulk proved a lot. Just imagine if it was Thor instead dishing out the beating, that's the only way you'll see what happened. Good showing for Thor endurance though...even though he got slaughtered, he showed that he isn't a slouch in the durability dept.
Originally posted by carver9
Grabbing him and pushing him downward isn't overpowering (which is completely different than your scan. Is that even canon?).Then right after that Thor tried to attack Hulk and got punched almost out of orbit with it leading to the quote I said previously to you (only strength and power is what matters). Then this was Warrior Madness Thor that Hulk was matching. A Thor that is far more powerful than Bill and Regular Thor combined.
1) Yeah, the scans I linked are canon.
2) Thor BARELY EVEN FELT that punch from Hulk, it only threw him away from the nuke explosion. It is not a strength-vs-strength feat; it's more a strength-vs-weight one. If basically any brick punches another brick in an upper-cut fashion (upwards) with the intention of making the other one fly, he *will* fly. They don't weigh hundreds of tons, after all.
Originally posted by carver9
"Is there no limit to the Hulk's strength".http://s226.photobucket.com/user/HulkFights/media-full/Vs%20Thor/Fight%203/15.jpg.html
Hulk proved a lot. Just imagine if it was Thor instead dishing out the beating, that's the only way you'll see what happened. Good showing for Thor endurance though...even though he got slaughtered, he showed that he isn't a slouch in the durability dept.
You have to lose in order to be slaughtered bro, Hell, Thor wasn't even slowing down after all that. All Hulk proved was he couldn't get the job done on a determined Thor.
Originally posted by Stoic
This is proof that you are either very deceitful, or your comprehension skills are very low. You post scans of Spider Man with the symbiote. Once again misrepresenting things like you are prone to do. None of what you were talking about had anything to do with my point whatsoever. You didn't overturn anything that I wrote Carver, you only showcased your deceitfulness. Re-read what I wrote, and tell me what these scans have to do with anything.You take two times when the Grey Hulk turns into the Savage Hulk, but then attempt to ignore all of the times that Mr.Fixit has been in fights and never once changed into the Savage Hulk. When the Grey Hulk ramped up strong enough to avoid being killed by the asteroid larger than the Earth, he did not turn into the Savage Hulk. So what we have are hundreds of times that he did not turn into the Savage Hulk vs the couple of times that he has.
You're comprehension skills are very low Carver. This is just another example that proves it. Where did you disprove anything that I wrote? You simply either did not read what I wrote out of ignorance, or you sidestepped it completely posting irrelevant scans in order for you a paint over the way that the Hulk's powers actually work.
In your terrible post you state "so why did Spiderman and Captain America did this and that to the Hulk"...I responded to you by saying, the person you are arguing for has done the same thing and it doesn't have a thing to do with strength...it's a freaking low showing. Then Hulk is Hulk read the same thing out of your terrible post and responded with fights of Thor being owned by Spiderman, Mongoose, etc... which again, poops on your terrible argument.
Lol...have you even read the showing with Grey Hulk vs the asteroid, lol, he wasn't angry during that showing. I guess that is why he didn't go green. I'm not going to sit here and post all of the times Grey Hulk went Green when pissed because Stoic, the Hulk fan should know about these showings. Two should suffice and it holds weight to my argument. Hulk has starred in over 100's to thousands of comics and has went green numerous of times in Grey Hulk form. Do you honestly think I am going to sit here and post every one of them for a guy that is apparently suppose to know about the Hulk (yeah right). The scans I posted proved my point.
Wait a minute...how strong is Spiderman with the Symbiote. To my knowledge when Spiderman gained the Symbiote previously, it ramped him up to 30 tons. Maybe you know something that I don't. Provide a scan. Then provide a scan that states it takes 5 minutes for Hulk strength to increase. Then provide a scan that back up your claim about Hulk not starting where you think he doesn't start at. You have as of yet to prove anything.
Originally posted by Magnon
1) Yeah, the scans I linked are canon.2) Thor BARELY EVEN FELT that punch from Hulk, it only threw him away from the nuke explosion. It is not a strength-vs-strength feat; it's more a strength-vs-weight one. If basically any brick punches another brick in an upper-cut fashion (upwards) with the intention of making the other one fly, he *will* fly. They don't weigh hundreds of tons, after all.
Not going in circles with you. Just know that Hulk matched Warrior Madness Thor. A Thor that would puke on Average Thor and Bill easily in a fight. Thanks for bringing that fight up to help my argument.
👆
Originally posted by Khazra Reborn
You have to lose in order to be slaughtered bro, Hell, Thor wasn't even slowing down after all that. All Hulk proved was he couldn't get the job done on a determined Thor.
Look at the scan you quoted. Thor doesn't look like he is having trouble standing?
Look at this scan, Thor crawling on the ground and struggling to even stand while Hulk 'allows' him to get up. Slowing down isn't the word to use here...the guy could barely stand on both ft.
http://s226.photobucket.com/user/HulkFights/media/Vs%20Thor/Fight%203/17.jpg.html
Originally posted by carver9
Look at the scan you quoted. Thor doesn't look like he is having trouble standing?Look at this scan, Thor crawling on the ground and struggling to even stand while Hulk 'allows' him to get up. Slowing down isn't the word to use here...the guy could barely stand on both ft.
http://s226.photobucket.com/user/HulkFights/media/Vs%20Thor/Fight%203/17.jpg.html
Do you know what a win is, carver?
