Originally posted by LORDSIDIOUS01
Easy now. T'Challa is good. No question, But the master technician and tactician Bruce is T'Challa's going down.
The master technician and tactician in a straight up hand to hand fight loses to a BETTER technician and tactician in my opinion. Bruce goes down alot harder, increased senses take it really. if we had T'challa without the herb it would be alot better.
Actually, the herb doesn't make as much difference as you think. In a jungle, Bruce would be ****ed. But in a straight fight in the open, Bats has the edge. T'challa's around peak human, not above. Unless someone has feats to prove otherwise? Marvel database says he's capable of 750 lbs at peak effort. That's around peak human. 800 lbs is the most someone can lift in Marvel without being called Superhuman.
Originally posted by TricksterPriest
Actually, the herb doesn't make as much difference as you think. In a jungle, Bruce would be ****ed. But in a straight fight in the open, Bats has the edge. T'challa's around peak human, not above. Unless someone has feats to prove otherwise? Marvel database says he's capable of 750 lbs at peak effort. That's around peak human. 800 lbs is the most someone can lift in Marvel without being called Superhuman.
cool
I thought it pumped him up to higher levels
Originally posted by inamilist
coolI thought it pumped him up to higher levels
it puts him at peak human levels, like cap.
black panther´s father already beat cap, and i still think T´Challa is better then cap america, its my opinion. The problema is cap is much more popular.
T´Challa has fought iron fist, he´s one of the best martial artists in marvel. and he´s also a master tactician.
Bruce wayne is one of the best in DC so this would be a great match, bruce can win? of course. but so can T´Challa
Originally posted by Loot
it puts him at peak human levels, like cap.black panther´s father already beat cap, and i still think T´Challa is better then cap america, its my opinion. The problema is cap is much more popular.
T´Challa has fought iron fist, he´s one of the best martial artists in marvel. and he´s also a master tactician.
Bruce wayne is one of the best in DC so this would be a great match, bruce can win? of course. but so can T´Challa
Calling Danny Rand an amateur while schooling him hand to hand, for example.
Blame it on popularity if you really like, but fact of the matter is that no matter how you think the characters SHOULD be portrayed, Marvel has consistently portrayed Captain America as the foremost hand to hand combatant on Earth.
Not to mention the fact that Cap's strength feats are more numerous and impressive than T'Challa's.
Originally posted by Soljer
A VERY inexperienced Cap lost to T'Chaka. Besides that one showing, Cap has martial arts feats that put T'Challa's to shame.Calling Danny Rand an amateur while schooling him hand to hand, for example.
Blame it on popularity if you really like, but fact of the matter is that no matter how you think the characters SHOULD be portrayed, Marvel has consistently portrayed Captain America as the foremost hand to hand combatant on Earth.
Not to mention the fact that Cap's strength feats are more numerous and impressive than T'Challa's.
have this two ever fought?
and about the age thing, i think its important, if T´Challa by the age of six says he´s mastered some form of combat
Originally posted by Loot
have this two ever fought?and about the age thing, i think its important, if T´Challa by the age of six says he´s mastered some form of combat
Cool. Let's go ahead and say that T'Challa has mastered one form of combat for every six years he's lived. How many styles would he know?
Batman's mastered one hundred twenty seven.
He makes a living beating on people that have mastered every martial art known to man. T'Challa is nothing new.
Originally posted by Soljer
Cool. Let's go ahead and say that T'Challa has mastered one form of combat for every six years he's lived. How many styles would he know?Batman's mastered one hundred twenty seven.
He makes a living beating on people that have mastered every martial art known to man. T'Challa is nothing new.
how could you be so sure about this, they fight different people in different comic worlds.
All i´m saying is give some credit to T´Challa.
Originally posted by Soljer
So you are arguing that Marvel's martial artists are inherently better than DC's?Okay...that isn't biased at all....
no not at all
i´m saying they are form different comic worlds, so they don´t fight the same persons, its more easy to compare cap with panther then batman with cap or panther, just and only that.
why should i say Marvel's martial artists are inherently better than DC's, doesn´t make any sense
Originally posted by Loot
no not at alli´m saying they are form different comic worlds, so they don´t fight the same persons, its more easy to compare cap with panther then batman with cap or panther, just and only that.
why should i say Marvel's martial artists are inherently better than DC's, doesn´t make any sense
It was your implication. "They fight in different worlds, thusly, Bruce's GREATLY superior Martial Arts feats don't count."
Uhh...no.
🙂.
Going by feats, and feats alone, Batman wins this for a good majority.
Originally posted by Soljer
It was your implication. "They fight in different worlds, thusly, Bruce's GREATLY superior Martial Arts feats don't count."Uhh...no.
🙂.
Going by feats, and feats alone, Batman wins this for a good majority.
Same thing goes for you though.
Just because Bruce can defeat most if not all of the martial artists in his universe, doesnt gurantee can defeat all of Marvels.
Originally posted by Soljer
It was your implication. "They fight in different worlds, thusly, Bruce's GREATLY superior Martial Arts feats don't count."Uhh...no.
🙂.
Going by feats, and feats alone, Batman wins this for a good majority.
well i didn´t mean that, i´m not saying his feats don´t count, i was just saying they don´t fight the same persons.
Personnaly bruce wayne is my favorite comic book character. And i know him much better then T´Challa, i´m trying to be far on this one, and for what i´ve heard panther is one of the best martial artists in marvel. Can he loose to bruce wayne? yes he can, but he can also win, right?
For me Bruce is much superior, in the way he learned everything withou cheating. T`challa somoked pot since child to have superior senses, and cap america took some super soldier serum, i mean this is doping pure and simply. JUNKIES 😱 (kidding)