The ultimate source of magic?

Started by General Mess3 pages

Originally posted by leonidas
how can the multiverse contain MORE energy than was expended in its creation? cosmic power uses the allotted energies of creation. magical allottment was thrown in on TOP of that energy by toaa.

may be unproveable, but i like the idea. 🙂 it's not fool-proof, but it's a start.

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Magic obviously disobeys the second law of Thermodynamics, as does the vacuum of space.

Originally posted by General Mess
I believe it is after all, the magical beings in existence where eradicated by Thanos's actions.

just in a single universe. 🙂

by crom! 😄

Originally posted by General Mess
Magic obviously disobeys the second law of Thermodynamics, as does the vacuum of space.

yep.

and i'm not sure if you're referring to 'zero-point' energy in a vacuum, but zero-point energy is not a thermal resevoir, so it is a rather special case.

Originally posted by leonidas
yep.

and i'm not sure if you're referring to 'zero-point' energy in a vacuum, but zero-point energy is not a thermal resevoir, so it is a rather special case.

Zero point may not be much, it depends what research you are reading despite real world examples. The quantity is questionable, damn inertia 😉

Originally posted by General Mess
If one was able to view wave Functions of particles, would one be able to see particles in ALL states simultaneously, i.e. even states we can't even begin to comprehend ?

According to quantum theory (or at least, as far as I understand it), yes.

Cosmic energy and Magic stem from the same place. They are both natural forces that flow through everything, one just branched way to the right while the other stayed on course. Maybe, since it took a different path, it's evolved into something more than just simple energy.
It's like water that's been turned into ice. It looks different, acts different and the rules that water follows don't seem to apply, but it's still water no matter how different.

I don't see any reason to think magic doesn't come from the same place that normal energy comes from.

Originally posted by long pig
Cosmic energy and Magic stem from the same place. They are both natural forces that flow through everything, one just branched way to the right while the other stayed on course. Maybe, since it took a different path, it's evolved into something more than just simple energy.
It's like water that's been turned into ice. It looks different, acts different and the rules that water follows don't seem to apply, but it's still water no matter how different.

I don't see any reason to think magic doesn't come from the same place that normal energy comes from.

hmm, nice analogy. 🙂

Originally posted by leonidas
hmm, nice analogy. 🙂

Although energy isn't really a thing, is more of a process. Its basically movement.

Well, for me Magic have always defies the Cosmic Energy in the sense that it transforms the logical to the illogical.

Meaning a wizard can tranform a toad into a prince.

Magic for me is a power and energy not bound by our science. But rather an independent and unique force outside of our own physics.

Where it came from? No one knows. But it is very probable that it was always there. Unmoved and undiscovered. It takes a great knowledge to obtain it.

So, would you see reality manipulation as only magic? Can science based energy manipulate reality as well?

Maybe

Maybe? I'd say 100% yes.

The only difference is Magic seems to do things quicker, like a short-cut.

Originally posted by long pig
Maybe? I'd say 100% yes.

The only difference is Magic seems to do things quicker, like a short-cut.

i didn't really read any of the thread before saying maybe,i just got bored and was trying to have the last post on the whole first page( i got bored halfway)

Originally posted by long pig
So, would you see reality manipulation as only magic? Can science based energy manipulate reality as well?
Direct modulation of quantum wavefunctions ---> reality manipulation (magic). renske

Originally posted by Mindship
Direct modulation of quantum wavefunctions ---> reality manipulation (magic). renske

geek. 😄

Originally posted by leonidas
geek. 😄

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Originally posted by long pig
Maybe? I'd say 100% yes.

The only difference is Magic seems to do things quicker, like a short-cut.

quicker? i don't know about that . . . but i'd also say reality manip could be done via either route.