Rugal Bernstein vs. Ryu Hayabusa

Started by Darkstorm Zero16 pages
Originally posted by Xenogears
-Until I see where it says otherwise, I'm holding it as bs.

Call it what you like Cloud, fact is that your the one operating out side of the rules, not us.

Originally posted by Xenogears
-Again, doesn't change the fact that he can, which I've proved I don't know how many times by now.

And its "Very Possibe" that street Fighters Ryu can become the God of Destruction by absorbing Psycho Power...

Without Definitive evidence, don't claim it or use it.

Can I ask why God Rugal is even mentioned here since he's not in this match Omega rugal is.

Someone brought him up again.

But I'll say this, there's a God Rugal vs. Shin Gouki thread on this page since 05 (that I made) and both are uncannon in storyline although they are both allowed and have existed.

Originally posted by Darkstorm Zero
Call it what you like Cloud, fact is that your the one operating out side of the rules, not us.

And its "Very Possibe" that street Fighters Ryu can become the God of Destruction by absorbing Psycho Power...

Without Definitive evidence, don't claim it or use it.

-How 'bout we just forget it then since Ryu's playable with the DDB.

-Ryu with the DDB is playable.

Originally posted by Xenogears
-How 'bout we just forget it then since Ryu's playable with the DDB.

-Ryu with the DDB is playable.

I didn't say HE wasnt' but as soon as you mention Ryu becoming D.I. I will squash your argument like a bug. Understand?

Originally posted by Darkstorm Zero
I didn't say HE wasnt' but as soon as you mention Ryu becoming D.I. I will squash your argument like a bug. Understand?
Considering that was never my argument. I mentioned that it's possible in a versus match and proved it god knows how many times, and that doesn't matter since wielding the DDB is the same as wielding it after becoming the D.I. or not. The D.I.'s power is the blade's power. The D.I.'s power is used when the blade is in use.

Originally posted by Xenogears
Considering that was never my argument. I mentioned that it's possible in a versus match and proved it god knows how many times, and that doesn't matter since wielding the DDB is the same as wielding it after becoming the D.I. or not. The D.I.'s power is the blade's power. The D.I.'s power is used when the blade is in use.

Unfortunately, it's still not a demonstratable power and is speculatory and depends on Ryu's mood. I'm sorry dude but until it's shown, it's at best regulated to the realmslike True Devil Jin and Full power Jinpachi...

Hell man even 2nd stage True Ogre has more valididty tohim than D.I Ryu does...

Originally posted by Darkstorm Zero
Unfortunately, it's still not a demonstratable power and is speculatory and depends on Ryu's mood. I'm sorry dude but until it's shown, it's at best regulated to the realmslike True Devil Jin and Full power Jinpachi...

Hell man even 2nd stage True Ogre has more valididty tohim than D.I Ryu does...

Really, do you just ignore everything that I tell you and say the same thing over and over? This is the last time I'm going to say this.

The Dark Dragon is more powerful than Vigoor who split the Earth in ancient times.

As the D.I., as I've told you once before, the Emperor leveled a garden that seemed to have no boundaries; turned it into a hell by simply being present. The V.E.'s sheer power lifted earth from underneath the ground. The V.E. can also generate waves of beams that annihilate everything in their path. All this is shown in the second to last fight in NG.

The DDB wasn't even a truly evil blade then until the end of the game, when Murai wielded it and became the D.I.

That's the capabilities of the D.I. Why you keep saying the D.I.'s abilities can only be speculated is beyond me. All that the V.E. and Murai did were powers and abilities of the D.I.; I remember giving you a picture of both of them as the D.I., did I not?

Alright, Ryu never did become the D.I.; Ryu armed with the TDS is...more powerful.

This is the second to last fight in NG:YouTube video

Originally posted by Xenogears
Really, do you just ignore everything that I tell you and say the same thing over and over? This is the last time I'm going to say this.

The Dark Dragon is more powerful than Vigoor who split the Earth in ancient times.

As the D.I., as I've told you once before, the Emperor leveled a garden that seemed to have no boundaries; turned it into a hell by simply being present. The V.E.'s sheer power lifted earth from underneath the ground. The V.E. can also generate waves of beams that annihilate everything in their path. All this is shown in the second to last fight in NG.

The DDB wasn't even a truly evil blade then until the end of the game, when Murai wielded it and became the D.I.

That's the capabilities of the D.I. Why you keep saying the D.I.'s abilities can only be speculated is beyond me. All that the V.E. and Murai did were powers and abilities of the D.I.; I remember giving you a picture of both of them as the D.I., did I not?

Alright, Ryu never did become the D.I.; Ryu armed with the TDS is...more powerful.

You are F!#@$ing dense!!!! Where the hell did I argue the D.I or the DDB's power in the last post Cloud?!

I said those characters had more VALIDITY!!!!!

I said Ryu as the D.I is a speculatory character because he has never been seen, which is, by every definition true. Are yougoing to tell me you've actually seen himorplayed as him in the games now?

Jeeze... that tears it... you are very close to being the first person I ever put on ignore........ I have never been more annoyed by someone on a forum than you, you blindly charge into arguments without properly reading them and spout the same shit over and over...

One last thing, the TDS's power only works against the DDB and Vigoor Emperor, everywhere alse it's just an indestructable sword, no special powers.

Originally posted by Darkstorm Zero
You are F!#@$ing dense!!!! Where the hell did I argue the D.I or the DDB's power in the last post Cloud?!

I said those characters had more VALIDITY!!!!!

I said Ryu as the D.I is a speculatory character because he has never been seen, which is, by every definition true. Are yougoing to tell me you've actually seen himorplayed as him in the games now?

Jeeze... that tears it... you are very close to being the first person I ever put on ignore........ I have never been more annoyed by someone on a forum than you, you blindly charge into arguments without properly reading them and spout the same shit over and over...

One last thing, the TDS's power only works against the DDB and Vigoor Emperor, everywhere alse it's just an indestructable sword, no special powers.

-Woah

-The TDS's power killed all Greater Fiends in the game. A few of which were: Awakened Alma, Spirit Doku, Nicchae, and Marbus. None of them had anything to do with the DDB or V.E.; in fact, a swordsmith by the name of Muramasa mentioned it had the potential of immense power that could counter the Dark Dragon Blade's. It works on opponents who possess power of the like.

you're reaching. You can't say it works on anything evil without more proof. It seems to only invoke it's power against fiends, the DDB and the VE.

Also, D.I. Ryu does not exist. And to think he can beat Rugal without a major plot device is insane.

Originally posted by TricksterPriest
you're reaching. You can't say it works on anything evil without more proof. It seems to only invoke it's power against fiends, the DDB and the VE.

Also, D.I. Ryu does not exist. And to think he can beat Rugal without a major plot device is insane.

Everything it killed was evil smart one. What you're saying is the equivalent of saying God Rugal's power works only on those he fought against in his game.

The D.I. exists. Ryu using the DDB in battle exists. A canonical fact is anyone who uses the DDB in battle will become the D.I.; I know this will be difficult but try to use your brain at the moment.

THANKYOU!!!!!!

Finally....

Cloud, realise that the powers of the TDS are limited, outsideof the feinds, the powers don't work, he never killed a human with it. it's never been used outside the feind realm,and more importantly,he only had the weapon for a short time,notto mention by yourown admission, that the weapons powers where an unknown.

No...you're the one who's reaching. There's no proof the plot device power of the sword works on anything other than fiends, the VE or the DDB.

We know God Rugal's power works, because he has feats. And cause he's an actual character. But that's besides the point. Omega Rugal is more than powerful enough to wreck Hayabusa.

The DI may exist, as may a non-canon Ryu with the DDB, but in-game, he doesn't become the DI. And apparently, you have to kill someone while having evil in your heart, or something. So that's another strike against this DI Ryu. HE NEVER USED THE SWORD IN BATTLE.

Look, just admit Ryu loses this match, so we can all just chill? 😉

Originally posted by Darkstorm Zero
THANKYOU!!!!!!

Finally....

Cloud, realise that the powers of the TDS are limited, outsideof the feinds, the powers don't work, he never killed a human with it. it's never been used outside the feind realm,and more importantly,he only had the weapon for a short time,notto mention by yourown admission, that the weapons powers where an unknown.

Don't resort to spewing shit right now. All those points can be easily countered with these facts:

1. He has killed human soldiers and a heavily armed cyborg with a watered down Dragon Sword. Imagine what the TDS would have done.

2. Ryu fought the second form of Alma as well as the spirit of Doku outside of the fiend realm.

3. Ryu was armed with the TDS for a day and a half; Rugal never achieved Akuma's power.

The TDS's power is not limited to anything. That's just you making bs.

Damn it, Hayabusa loses but he is still bad ass! Let's leave it at that!

Originally posted by TricksterPriest
No...you're the one who's reaching. There's no proof the plot device power of the sword works on anything other than fiends, the VE or the DDB.
How about the fact that it works on fire-breathing dragons, historical creatures, and heavily armored cyborgs.
Originally posted by TricksterPriest
We know God Rugal's power works, because he has feats.
Like?
Originally posted by TricksterPriest
And cause he's an actual character. But that's besides the point.
Ryu is also a character. What's your point?
Originally posted by TricksterPriest
Omega Rugal is more than powerful enough to wreck Hayabusa.
Yeah and he wouldn't stand a chance in hell if he was armed.
Originally posted by TricksterPriest
The DI may exist, as may a non-canon Ryu with the DDB, but in-game, he doesn't become the DI.
Did not say that. I said if we combine Ryu using the blade in-game with the canonical fact that anyone using the blade will become the D.I., then he can't use the blade in a versus match without becoming the D.I.
Originally posted by TricksterPriest
And apparently, you have to kill someone while having evil in your heart, or something. So that's another strike against this DI Ryu.
Who's not capable of that other than angels, hmm?
Originally posted by TricksterPriest
HE NEVER USED THE SWORD IN BATTLE.
In-game, he has.
Originally posted by TricksterPriest
Look, just admit Ryu loses this match, so we can all just chill? 😉
HAHAHA! I will not utter the lie just to make you happy my friend.

Originally posted by Xenogears
Don't resort to spewing shit right now. All those points can be easily countered with these facts:

Spewing shit, like you with the D.I. Ryu and using the presence so that you don't have to say Ryu loses?

Originally posted by Xenogears
1. He has killed human soldiers and a heavily armed cyborg with a watered down Dragon Sword. Imagine what the TDS would have done.

It wasn't the TDS though, and it's a plot device anyways...

Originally posted by Xenogears
2. Ryu fought the second form of Alma as well as the spirit of Doku outside of the fiend realm.

Not with the TDS though.

Originally posted by Xenogears
3. Ryu was armed with the TDS for a day and a half; Rugal never achieved Akuma's power.

It's power never worked outside the feind realm.

Originally posted by Xenogears
The TDS's power is not limited to anything. That's just you making bs.

Like you with D.I Ryu and the Presence None game characters that are against the rules, deal with it. Not tomention that the TDS is a plot device.

Don't like it, then dont use it and I won't have to tear your arguments apart.

Originally posted by Remulous
Damn it, Hayabusa loses but he is still bad ass! Let's leave it at that!
Considering this is H2H Ryu, you're right.

So then the sword does greatly increase Hayabusa's power because the sword it's self has powers ?