Originally posted by TricksterPriest
......No. Just no. This thread was intended as spite. And only a few people seem to get how big a mismatch this is.Hayabusa CANNOT beat M. Bison or other top tier characters like him. If he's this godly character in Ninja Gaiden, why doesn't it carry over to DOA? Why doe he get beat up, experimented on, and in general, not WTF-PWN everyone else in the series? Either the DOA crowd is stronger than the enemies in the gaiden games (highly unlikely), Hayabusa was weakened for gameplay balance (maybe, but it doesn't explain some of his losses), or......it's separate continuity and the two are different versions of the character.
You seriously think he can beat Omega Rugal or God Rugal with his sword? 🤨
- Prove Hayabusa cannot beat M. Bison.
- There's not much story in DOA as there is in NG.
- He did not get beat up by anyone except Hayate in hand to hand, and that's because Hayabusa was being cocky.
- He WTFPWNed Tengu who is arguably the most powerful character in the DOA series.
- Of course he would be weakened in gameplay. Why do you think Dante and Nightmare die so easily in their games?
- They are the same characters as I've proven earlier.
- You obviously know nothing about his weapon. It is more powerful than the Dark Dragon Blade. The Satsui no Hadu is powerful indeed, but you should see what would happen to Ryu if he wielded the Dark Dragon Blade and broke the seal. He would become the devil Incarnate. Let's see Rugal stand a chance of winning then, not that he'd win against Ryu with the True Dragon Sword considering he would be even more of a challenge.
Originally posted by TricksterPriest
I think DOA can draw or beat most of the mid tier characters in SF/KOF. And some of the bosses are stronger than mid, but not quite high tier. But Rugal is top tier, and god tier at times. Sorry about the experiment quip. Was thinking of Hayate. But the point stands.
Originally posted by Remulous
The Dragon Sword is indeed powerful, I believe it was made from the bones of an actual Dragon. But even with that and Nimpo, he will not be strong enough to stop OMEGA Rugal or Ultra Rugal.
According to Robert from Ninja Gaiden 2, the Dragon Sword was indeed made from the Dragon itself, only it was made from the Dragon's fang. You got the bone part mixed with the Sword of Chaos, wich was made from the bone of the Demon from NG1.
Originally posted by Cloud_VII
- I've yet to be convinced Rugal would win this.- Prove Hayabusa cannot beat M. Bison.
- There's not much story in DOA as there is in NG.
- He did not get beat up by anyone except Hayate in hand to hand, and that's because Hayabusa was being cocky.
- He WTFPWNed Tengu who is arguably the most powerful character in the DOA series.
- Of course he would be weakened in gameplay. Why do you think Dante and Nightmare die so easily in their games?
- They are the same characters as I've proven earlier.
- You obviously know nothing about his weapon. It is more powerful than the Dark Dragon Blade. The Satsui no Hadu is powerful indeed, but you should see what would happen to Ryu if he wielded the Dark Dragon Blade and broke the seal. He would become the devil Incarnate. Let's see Rugal stand a chance of winning then, not that he'd win against Ryu with the True Dragon Sword considering he would be even more of a challenge.
1. Hayabusa beating M. Bison at his SFA levels isn't in question, that's a fact that he can't beat that Bison. SF2, maybe. Probably not in a straight fight, but possibly has a chance with his sword.
2. NG is non-applicable.
3. Still a loss. Except instead of proving he's weak, it proves he's a dumbshit. 😛
4. Don't you dare compare a weakling like Tengu to Rugal Bernstein. That is an insult. Rugal is the most powerful boss in KOF, 2nd only to Orochi.
5. You haven't given me any feats that prove Rugal would lose to Hayabusa. Whereas I've stated Rugal's power by virtue of his smashing teams, beating countless fighters, and nearly beating the entire KOF 95' cast. That last one is something NO ONE in DOA is capable of.
6. He's not beating Omega Rugal. God Rugal would one shot him. The sword has never shown the power to take down Omega Rugal. If you show me some feats, I'll give you Rugal. But it's not possible for him to take down Omega.
Originally posted by TricksterPriest
1. Hayabusa beating M. Bison at his SFA levels isn't in question, that's a fact that he can't beat that Bison. SF2, maybe. Probably not in a straight fight, but possibly has a chance with his sword.2. NG is non-applicable.
3. Still a loss. Except instead of proving he's weak, it proves he's a dumbshit. 😛
4. Don't you dare compare a weakling like Tengu to Rugal Bernstein. That is an insult. Rugal is the most powerful boss in KOF, 2nd only to Orochi.
5. You haven't given me any feats that prove Rugal would lose to Hayabusa. Whereas I've stated Rugal's power by virtue of his smashing teams, beating countless fighters, and nearly beating the entire KOF 95' cast. That last one is something NO ONE in DOA is capable of.
6. He's not beating Omega Rugal. God Rugal would one shot him. The sword has never shown the power to take down Omega Rugal. If you show me some feats, I'll give you Rugal. But it's not possible for him to take down Omega.
- Yes it is because it's the same character. Take Ryu's NG feats away and we're taking away M. Bison's SFA feats.
- I think I just might stop debating with you if you're going to act like a dumbass.
- Prove that Rugal can do something close to bringing about ultimate disaster and calamity and covering a world in chaos.
- In fact, I did. I said Ryu defeated an opponent who was infused with the power of the evil deities along with the Dark Dragon. One of those deities, being the ancestor of all evil deities had enough power to destroy a planet. That combined with the power of the Dark Dragon, well, you do the math. That is what Ryu's capable of beating with his primary weapon. Also, where does DOA factor in this?
- The sword has never shown to take down Rugal because they both exist in different universes, duhr.
- He'd one shot Rugal with the Dark Dragon Blade because it holds unimaginable power.
- I believe Incarnate would take down Omega and God Rugal together. Ryu with the True Dragon Sword is even more powerful than that.
Originally posted by Tha C-Master
So anytime someone claims that Hayabusa loses, all we get is "prove he loses".
Originally posted by Tha C-Master
Ryu Hayabusa isn't beating God Rugal with his sword, let it go.
Originally posted by Tha C-Master
The guy has the nigh-speed of Akuma with greater attack power and range,
Originally posted by Tha C-Master
I know Omega Rugal is in question, but he isn't beating him either...
Wow. You honestely think Ryu wouldn't defeat Rugal even with the sword? You talk about Rugal beating on the KOF cast...how about Ryu taking down the Vigoor empire by himself.
Ryu's feats > Rugal's.
It's that simple. Now I do give the hand to hand match to Rugal, but with the sword Ryu is a beast and it's a shame people think we're just over rating him.
And as for Bison I don't see Mr. Psycho Power standing much of a chance if Ryu is given his sword; however one on one hand to hand I do not know about the outcome; probably Bison considering all the people it took to take him down in SFA3.
Originally posted by Remulous
Same here, Hayabusa can't beat everyone.It would be a complete travesty if some one says Hayabusa can beat Ultra/God Rugal. That's insanely wrong!
- If Ryu can overcome the devil Incarnate I don't see any version of Rugal beating him.