Originally posted by Tha C-Master
This is simply amazing, I love when people have the arrogance to think they know everything, and ask someone else to prove everything, when the best they can come up with is something they read off of wiki, showing they know very little about the game mechanics in the first place. I've noticed this same technique in many of your debates, you sit and argue one-sided. You don't know much about Soul Calibur as it seems, but you are so convinced that one character is uber so you stroke their genitals and ignore everything to your own content. An ignorant, pointless, and annoying opponent to deal with.
Originally posted by Tha C-Master
Actually very many people started in saying that, but earlier in this thread (and in others) you go on saying that Ryu Hayabusa beats any SF and KOF character with his swords.
Originally posted by Tha C-Master
While I tried to be sportsmanlike and not call you a fanboy, you are making it so damned hard when you read whatever you want to read and ignore the rest.
Originally posted by Tha C-Master
I've said much on the knowledge on the behalf of God Rugal (for the thousandth time), but the problem is you know little.
Originally posted by Tha C-Master
You think it is my job to sit and cater to you until you agree with me and it isn't.
Originally posted by Tha C-Master
You don't even know much about the character or else you wouldn't have to sit and read wiki. How contradictory, hypocritical, arrogant, and stupid is that?
Originally posted by Tha C-Master
Yes because reading a few sites substitutes for actual gameplay and genuine knowledge... this place has definitely changed around here since I left, now I know what my friends are talking about.
Originally posted by Tha C-Master
Have you even played anything besides DOA, Tekken, and Final Fantasy? ๐
Halo 2
Soul Calibur II
Soul Calibur III
Budokai
Budokai 3
Kindgom Hearts
Kingdom Hearts II
Street Fighter II Turbo
Street Fighter II Turbo Revival
Street Fighter Alpha 3
Ninja Gaiden Black
Tekken 3
Tekken 4
Tekken 5
Final Fantasy X
Final Fantasy X-2
Dead or Alive 2
Dead or Alive 3
Dead or Alive 4
Devil May Cry
Devil May Cry 3
MGS 3
Gears of War
Everything or Nothing
Batman Returns
The Godfather
GTA: San Andreas
GTA: Liberty Stories
Zelda: Link's Awakening
Pokemon Red
Pokemon Gold
Pokemon Ruby
Super Mario Smash Bros. Melee
Fight Night
Ultimate Spiderman
Super Mario World 1 & 2
Baiten Kaitos
Onimusha 3
Parasite Eve
Samurai Champloo
Oblivion
Tomba 2
WWF Smackdown
That's not all of them.
[sarcasm]Yeah, I only play those 3 games.[/sarcasm]
Originally posted by Tha C-Master
Why does it?
Originally posted by Tha C-Master
Does it go with the stipulations of this matchup? Ryu Hayabusa and G. Rugal, and in various settings?
Originally posted by Tha C-Master
Because you weren't convinced with the very limited knowledge you have, that's not my problem. I'm not here to cater to you. Or even *make* you believe anything. You won't budge on Hayabusa as it is anyways.
Originally posted by Tha C-Master
So he just stays inbetween the teleport permenantly? ๐ Because if he doesn't then it takes a matter of time to initiate and recover. Teleportation is instant travel, so what you are saying is redundent.
Originally posted by Tha C-Master
Neither are invurnerable but Game Mechanics are a pain in the ass. G. Rugal uses his move to become invincible, the other is simply a Game Mechanic, such as invincibility while using Super Specials/Combos.
Well that's pretty much a moot argument seeing as how G. Rugal is non canon. Ryu on the other hand is and while the Ninpo invincibility is a game mechanic, he can still teleport at will, or could simply vanish into thin air, and appear wherever he likes, at any time.[QUOTE=8244401]Originally posted by Tha C-Master
Who has he fought, he has limited appearances as it is...
Originally posted by Tha C-Master
No, your comment of "Hahaha a grab move" shows me that you don't know truly what it is...
Originally posted by Tha C-Master
not to mention that you seem to be under the false impression that Ryu is unhittable for some reason. And in all forms that the match stipulates him fight in...
*Checks back*
Yeah, it was definitely you who were claiming God Rugal is invulnerable and can stay that way indefinitely, well just to burst your bubble I'm to mention once again that the version of Rugal you're using is non canon, as well as the fact Ryu is capable of being unhittable, due to his ability to vanish and appear wherever and whenever he wishes. Those abilities were displayed in the DOA games. Now you might ask the question, "why then does he get hit in the games?". To tell you the truth, it wouldn't be cinch to kill Nightmare and Dante in the story, but in-game, they have a short health bar that depletes away whenever an opponent hits them with something, being that a sword or a pair of nunchuks. If Ryu willed it, he would never be touched by his opponent.
Originally posted by Tha C-Master
And the same can't be said for your character and his limited use of abilities, and time it takes to charge them. Rugal uses a God Walk very often and will easily God walk out of a powerful move when fighting to the best of his abilities.
Originally posted by Tha C-Master
You're so very wrong, Akuma *punched* an island down, (prove that he didn't).
Ryu eventually found Akuma's island (known as Onigami Isle or the Gokuentou) and challenged him. The intense battle that followed ended in a draw; Akuma was impressed as this was the closest he had come to a defeat yet. Telling Ryu to find him again when he had embraced the Satsui no Hadou, Akuma struck his island with a powerful blow (The Kongou Kokuretsu-Zan) and disappeared. The island fell apart around Ryu, who was left in the ocean to contemplate Akuma's words.
http://www.answers.com/topic/akuma-street-fighter
Originally posted by Tha C-Master
And how are you trying to take the validity of a feat down by saying it's a technique, every ****ing thing is a technique in some form or another.
Originally posted by Tha C-Master
The mountain he punched down in Alpha 2 is not Ayers rock, THAT was the special technique. This is a stupid argument, especially when your characters relies on shitloads of magical items to begin with. In some forms of media even Ryu has shown to have power to destroy a mountain. And S. Gouki is more powerful than he was in Alpha 2. It happens very quickly.
Originally posted by Tha C-Master
You love your plot devices don't you?
Originally posted by Tha C-Master
Bison has the capabilities to destroy a planet and he's lost to Gouki, Gouki has destroyed a Comet... Featwars are stupid for this reason.
Originally posted by Tha C-Master
Can you show me where this is stated that he is unable to destroyan island.
Originally posted by Tha C-Master
And Evil Ryu isn't in this thread, whereas G. Rugal is on the same level as S Gouki, and you are trying to say he doesn't even have much of a chance in h2h combat is utter bullshit.
- I don't care; I'll still make a point.
- You're making up bullshit now since I never said that genius.
Originally posted by Tha C-Master
Because all you are doing is using a broad generalization of a claim.
Originally posted by Tha C-Master
It doesn't matter. It's like me saying " Ryu has limitless potential"... can you put this amount into a number, or do you want me to drool over it.
Originally posted by Tha C-Master
You said that it could beat basically anyone or anything and it sounded fanboyish, especially with Darkstalkers characters around. ๐ฌ
Originally posted by Tha C-Master
Wrong, I said he could beat a good many in *most* fighting games, because SF has the highest tier fighters, along with MK. He would lose horribly to many like DS characters.
Originally posted by Tha C-Master
Rugal has several annihilating attacks, his whole style is based off of it. "Genocide Cutter" "God Press" " God Walk" "G- End"... he can kill just about any fighter with those.
Originally posted by Tha C-Master
You are the one who said Ryu Hayabusa can take the SF cast in SF vs. DOA,
Originally posted by Tha C-Master
and you don't even know much of the characters, so it's fanboyish. ๐
Originally posted by Tha C-Master
Being defensive over something I was agreeing with you on. *sigh*
Originally posted by Tha C-Master
Nevermind, I saw that thread. And you went in guns blazing saying Ryu pwns everything until you fell on your face and realized he was using his hands, and even then people said he lost to the female ninjas. Do you not think G. Rugal couldn't beat those?
Originally posted by Tha C-Master
Go to the SF vs. MK thread for this. Scorpion does the same ass thing and even he would lose. Without some serious help on his side.
Originally posted by Tha C-Master
Bison's super Psycho Crusher would tear him apart.
Originally posted by Tha C-Master
Bison destroyed a huge area when he was simply mad and did little else.
Originally posted by Tha C-Master
I'm betting Gill could whooop him, due to his Resurrection and ability to make meteors fall from the sky.
Originally posted by Tha C-Master
I proved that you don't know much about G. Rugal and you will go on any lengths to prove Ryu wins. ๐
Originally posted by Tha C-Master
๐ Riiight...
Originally posted by Cloud_VIINo doubt he's hard gameplaywise. But in an actual fight against the arguably most powerful form of Rugal no way. Have you even played CVS 2? Look at the background of the final stage. Many don't know this but Rugal or Gouki caused that.
The Devil Incarnate has two forms. One was the Vigoor Emperor and the other one was Murai.Cakewalk? Go fight him on Master Ninja mode and then judge. His attacks are the most devastating of any other opponent in the game.
Prior to the fight, a swordsmith by the name of Muramasa stated that the true from of the Dragon Sword would prove more than a match for the Dark Dragon Blade. This is about a weapon that holds unimaginable power, and which was existant since the dawn of history. Only the True Dragon Sword's power can counter it and nothing else can. Story-wise, Ryu would not have won if it weren't for the weapon.
Originally posted by Tha C-MasterDespite what many say I found it enjoyable too.
For some reason I enjoyed Ken and Terry being Rivals though, I guess they are just more charismatic.
Originally posted by Tha C-Master
And this is the comment you always run back to when you have nothing else. *yawn* Crutch-noun
1. a staff or support to assist a lame or infirm person in walking, now usually with a crosspiece at one end to fit under the armpit.
2. any of various devices resembling this in shape or use.
3. anything that serves as a temporary and often inappropriate support, supplement, or substitute; prop: He uses liquor as a psychological crutch.
4. a forked support or part.
5. the crotch of the human body.
6. Also, crotch. Nautical.
a. a forked support for a boom or spar when not in use.
b. a forked support for an oar on the sides or stern of a rowboat.
c. a horizontal knee reinforcing the stern frames of a wooden vessel.
7. a forked device on the left side of a sidesaddle, consisting of two hooks, one of which is open at the bottom and serves to clamp the left knee and the other of which is open at the top and serves to support the right knee.
โverb (used with object)
8. to support on crutches; prop; sustain.
Originally posted by Tha C-Master
See what I mean...Crutch-noun
1. a staff or support to assist a lame or infirm person in walking, now usually with a crosspiece at one end to fit under the armpit.
2. any of various devices resembling this in shape or use.
3. anything that serves as a temporary and often inappropriate support, supplement, or substitute; prop: He uses liquor as a psychological crutch.
4. a forked support or part.
5. the crotch of the human body.
6. Also, crotch. Nautical.
a. a forked support for a boom or spar when not in use.
b. a forked support for an oar on the sides or stern of a rowboat.
c. a horizontal knee reinforcing the stern frames of a wooden vessel.
7. a forked device on the left side of a sidesaddle, consisting of two hooks, one of which is open at the bottom and serves to clamp the left knee and the other of which is open at the top and serves to support the right knee.
โverb (used with object)
8. to support on crutches; prop; sustain.
Originally posted by Tha C-Master
I don't see where you know so much about Rugal by reading wiki, but then again fanboys don't have good logic at all, and they aren't known for sanity. I really haven't shown that I dont' know much about Ryu because I haven't over/underrated him at all.
Originally posted by Tha C-Master
I didn't say he couldn't use an attack, or that he was weak, etc. etc. Should I worship him and drool on his posters like you?
Originally posted by Tha C-Master
I can go with could because he has a chance. But by mid top I mean characters just below, SFA3 Bison, Gill, etc.Guys like Ryu, and Urien...
Originally posted by Tha C-Master
I am going to use your favorite tactic and ask you to prove it.
Originally posted by Tha C-Master
So is that why you go out of your way to overhype him?
Originally posted by Tha C-Master
I hate when people downplay characters too, but to gain respect is to respect both ends.
Originally posted by Tha C-Master
Ninja Gaiden is a popular game and I'm sure quite a few people have played it and DOA, they just aren't as fanatic. ๐ฌ
Originally posted by Tha C-Master
That's because they say what you like. I've seen Darkstorm mention it too... but that's just because SF and KOF are most popular, DOA has been vastly overrated as well, along with Pokemon, Tekken, and *cringes* Master Chief...
Originally posted by Tha C-Master
No, those things you read about G. Rugal are very limited, and is who I'm talking about, I don't think you've comprehended that since the start. ๐ฌ
Originally posted by Tha C-Master
All the knowledge of your favorite character don't really help you when you are plainly biased in your arguments.
Originally posted by Remulous
No doubt he's hard gameplaywise. But in an actual fight against the arguably most powerful form of Rugal no way.
Originally posted by Remulous
Have you even played CVS 2? Look at the background of the final stage. Many don't know this but Rugal or Gouki caused that. Despite what many say I found it enjoyable too.
Originally posted by Cloud_VIIFor some reason I can't see the videos on YouTube.
Lol this is fun, I haven't been on here in ages and someone's telling me what I know and don't know. It's fine though, these are just sparring. I hope you aren't angry or anything no more than I am. And no I'm not crazy about Rugal, I think he is badass though.
I'll get to this when I wake up. Or I'll just get on topic and stop this filibuster, not sure what kind of mood I'll be in. ๐
What filibuster? Cloud's the only person arguing that Hayabusa can beat God Rugal. I'd think turning Osaka into a burning wreckage would qualify as a good power feat. And that was normal Rugal. God Rugal is considered equal to Shin Gouki, by both SNK&Capcom. Which means he can do anything Shin Gouki can do. Especially because he has some of his moves and power of satsui no hadou, in addition to the orochi power. You have no right, Cloud, to bring up the non-canon arguement. You've argued that Hayabusa can beat him, you're not copping out now.
I'm glad I'm not the only person seeing this, he makes an argument defending a character against another, and then half way through he wants to say it isn't valid. This says several things to me:
1. You are trying to make a cop out.
2. You don't realize that many characters discussed in this forum are secret bosses and characters who have only been in one game without continuity.
3. You don't know much about the character, and are trying to use what I discussed with someone else earlier to make it seem like I'm in the wrong here, because I said this was the character that I was discussing. He still exists and you are trying to make it otherwise to get out of your ass-spanking.
Originally posted by TricksterPriest
What filibuster? Cloud's the only person arguing that Hayabusa can beat God Rugal. I'd think turning Osaka into a burning wreckage would qualify as a good power feat. And that was normal Rugal. God Rugal is considered equal to Shin Gouki, by both SNK&Capcom. Which means he can do anything Shin Gouki can do. Especially because he has some of his moves and power of satsui no hadou, in addition to the orochi power. You have no right, Cloud, to bring up the non-canon arguement. You've argued that Hayabusa can beat him, you're not copping out now.
I don't think that because SNK & Capcom paired God Rugal with Shin Gouki it means he can do everything Shin Gouki can do. They are still different characters with different power sets, techniques and attitude.
The Vigoor Emperor could literally curbstomp God Rugal, no offense. Only reason Ryu was able to bring the fight to Vigoor with the DDB was because of a Nimpo spell that levitated a small piece of ground beneath Ryu and that allowed him a chance to fight back; otherwise Ryu would have also been literally curbstomped.
Originally posted by Tha C-MasterThis post makes you seem so cool. ๐
Lol this is fun, I haven't been on here in ages and someone's telling me what I know and don't know. It's fine though, these are just sparring. I hope you aren't angry or anything no more than I am. And no I'm not crazy about Rugal, I think he is badass though.I'll get to this when I wake up. Or I'll just get on topic and stop this filibuster, not sure what kind of mood I'll be in. ๐
People are most likely thinking Rugal will lose becuase he does not posess a massive form, use magic, and weapons. Rugal's chi is more destructive than any Nimpo or weapon in the DOA/NG universe. NORMAL Rugal destroyed an entire city.
Not to mention by saying Hayabusa can beat Rugal, you're saying that Hayabusa can beat the entire KOF 95' cast. Because that's what Omega Rugal was doing. Or that Hayabusa can beat the fatal fury team, or the 96' boss team, or the New face team. Because Rugal can do that too. He's a team buster, and unlike the orochi guys, or the NESTS garbage, he does it with his own power. And not divine power like the orochi or garbage technology like NESTS.
Yeah C-master is kickass. ๐ You too Rem. ๐ Thanks for helping me out guys.
i disagree with your claim that if Ryu Hayabusa can beat God Rugal then he can beat the entire KOF 95 cast. That's a big number for Ryu, but Rugal is just one, ultimately very very powerful, opponent and Ryu would just need to concentrate on Rugal and not 30 + characters with different powers and fighting abilities, as would be the case of the KOF cast.
Besides the A > B and B > C therefor A > C logic isn't good at all.
No no. I said Omega Rugal did that. Do you understand you are saying that Hayabusa is more powerful than the entire KOF 95' if he can beat Omega Rugal, let alone God Rugal? If the entire KOF 95' cast couldn't stop him, then you are claiming Hayabusa is more powerful. So yes, the A>B>C logic does work here. Do you know how hard it is do something like that? The sheer power and skill needed? This is why Rugal is rivaled with Gouki. Because he's the only KOF boss (outside of Orochi ๐ who comes close to Gouki's insane power.