Originally posted by darthgoober
But that wouldn't happen if someone could come forth with the evidence I'm asking for now would it?
why would that evidence be relivant and put an end to an off topic discussion that's already well taken off?
that's some abstract logic you get there buddy... 😕
Originally posted by darthgoober
So what your saying is that there IS no evidence to suggest that?
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Originally posted by jinzin
1.way faster?okay.. feats?
Originally posted by jinzin
2. superhuman durability = invulnerable now?
Originally posted by jinzin
3. she jumped 50 feet while he was picking himself up... big deal...
Don't downplay a feat because you don't like it.
1. Jumping for one, isn't all strength. She ran into it, moved extremley swiftly from one to the next, and then landed with a run, and, before he could react, she STILL blitzed him.
2. He has Superhuman Durability (so he shouldn't have been dazed), He's very fast, and he's a reknowned warrior, and he couldn't even react while she did all of this.
3. He DIDN'T pick himself up... he didn't have time. And she had 50+ feet to move.
That of course, is a strength feat as well. Let's see Gorgon punch Ronin 50+ feet.
Originally posted by srankmissingnin
You said that Wolverine can hang with Kree in the speed department, fine. But Ronan is far from a average Kree now isn't he? Cap's technically human, but should we go by the average human soldier's speed/reflexes when dealing with him? But just so as to make progress in the discussion, let's assume that Ronan is no faster than the average Kree. Well, if Gorgon's big speed feat is being superior to Wolverine, then that's about the same as Gamora's speed being superior to Ronan.
So if they're speed is comparable, then what else does he have to his credit that puts him on Gamora's level?
Originally posted by SpunkySmurph
Again, you of all people shouldn't be demanding feats. Cap just posted the first cite-able feat after ten pages into the discussion. 😬
I've been giving you feats this entire thread.. 🤨
Originally posted by SpunkySmurph
This is a character that regularily tangles with Thor and Surfer... and he couldn't even raise himself properly in time for her to arrive
wellllllll of course you do! 🙂
Originally posted by SpunkySmurph
Don't downplay a feat because you don't like it.1. Jumping for one, isn't all strength. She ran into it, moved extremley swiftly from one to the next, and then landed with a run, and, before he could react, she STILL blitzed him.
2. He has Superhuman Durability (so he shouldn't have been dazed), He's very fast, and he's a reknowned warrior, and he couldn't even react while she did all of this.
3. He DIDN'T pick himself up... he didn't have time. And she had 50+ feet to move.That of course, is a strength feat as well. Let's see Gorgon punch Ronin 50+ feet.
she threw ronan 50 feet... and I have no problem with that.. but again venom's done stuff like that... when he was class 20..
This is a goooooooooooooooooooooooood fight. Gamora is a bad woman and Im kinda stuck on who would win this fight. If I had to put money on it, I would go with gorgon. The man is just to d*** powerful and NOTHING slows him down.
I looked that the guys stats and here it goes.
1 through 7
strength was at 4 said that he can lift 15 tons
speed was at 3 superhuman speed
durability at 5 superhuman
energy project 3 because of mind reading and the turn to stone powers
fighting ability 7 said that he knew every fighting style on the planet.
Heres what else I found on the gorgon powers.
Powers and abilities
The Gorgon possesses a variety of superhuman abilities as a result of genetic mutation and mystical enhancement from the Hand and HYDRA.
The Gorgon's primary mutant ability is the ability to transform an individual to stone by making eye contact with them. The Gorgons eyes have no visible pupils and glow with a bright green energy. The Gorgon always wears a pair of dark sunglasses in order to see without affecting those around him. Whether the sunglasses possess any sort of special properties or are composed of some special material designed to block his power has not been revealed.
After his resurrection, the Gorgon's strength, speed, stamina, agility, and reflexes are all heightened to superhuman levels of efficiency, the exact limits of which are unrevealed. The Gorgon also possesses an accelerated healing factor that enables him to repair damaged or destroyed tissue with extraordinary speed and efficiency. The exact limits of his healing powers are unknown. However, he is capable of healing from massive trauma inflicted by Wolverine's adamantium claws, bludgeoning, and falling from great heights within a matter of moments.
Aside from his physical advantages, the Gorgon possesses some level of telepathy allowing him to read the minds of others. The exact limits of his telepathy has not been revealed
The Gorgon is a extraodrinary hand to hand combatant, even before his resurrection, trained in multiple forms of martial arts. He is an expert swordsman and typically prefers to use a katana during combat. Also, he typically uses his telepathic abilities to read the minds of his opponents during combat situations, enabling him to predict and counter their moves.
The Gorgon is extraordinarily intelligent and possesses advanced knowledge in multiple scientific and artistic fields.
Even though I think that wolverine can even take gamora they did state that her healing factor is up there with wolverine. This is what I found on her powers and ability.
[edit] Powers and abilities
In her first appearances, Gamora's speed and strength were not superhuman, but the result of intensive training and incredible skill. In the pages of Infinity Watch, it is revealed that Gamora had been cybernetically enhanced to have superhuman strength, speed, and a healing factor equal to that of Wolverine. Gamora's strength and speed were further enhanced by Adam Warlock when they returned from Soulworld.
Gamora is one of the most skilled martial artists in the Marvel Universe. She is capable of defeating opponents who possess superhuman strength and durability that far surpasses her own, and she has defeated a military platoon containing dozens of combat-trained men in only a few minutes. She has learned to paralyze or kill opponents using vital point strikes directed at certain nerve clusters. Although skilled in the use of most conventional weapons, she prefers to use knives and swords.
When she was carrying the Time Gem, Gamora was prone to precognitive dreams and visions, though she had no conscious control over them.
Originally posted by jinzin
I've been giving you feats this entire thread.. 🤨
Originally posted by jinzin
again, cause he was on the ground... and again.. thor/surfer.. my point exactly.. you call pis on spidey vs. Fl but ignore that ronan wasn't using 90% of his powers against gamora?wellllllll of course you do! 🙂
Originally posted by jinzin
I'm not downplaying anything.
1) wasn't a blitz..
Originally posted by jinzin
2) and yet he did.. and yet you think this is perfectly legit?
Originally posted by jinzin
3) She jumped most of the distance... wolverine's covered hald of that before a man could pull a trigger.. I'm still not impressed here.
Originally posted by jinzin
she threw ronan 50 feet... and I have no problem with that.. but again venom's done stuff like that... when he was class 20..
Originally posted by jinzin
in other words ronan get kicked in the face after being caught off guard... not a speed feat.
Besides what DG already posted, look again. Ronan WASN'T caught off guard. Hell, she landed (before kicking him), with her back to his face.
And she was STILL fast enough to catch him by surprise.
Originally posted by srankmissingnin
If thats what flys for a speed feat now, Nightwing is the freaking Flash...
Nightwing wasn't facing an energy-blasting Ronin, so it's still not comparable.
