Gorgon vs. Gamora

Started by srankmissingnin15 pages
Originally posted by darthgoober
Wait, so there's a chance that the damn thing isn't even cannon? 😂

I would bet all of Capt's vital organs that it isn't cannon. 😉

But it is pretty much a rewrite (in novel form) of something that is cannon... so take from that what you will.

Originally posted by srankmissingnin
I would bet all of Capt's vital organs that it isn't cannon. 😉

But it is pretty much a rewrite (in novel form) of something that is cannon... so take from that what you will.

Well...there's one bet that you can't particularly lose, 😬.

Regardless of whether that particular novel is canon or not, Wolverine has STARED at bullets as they passed him before. He's also caught a darkness bullet in the past (was that canon? 😬).

Originally posted by Soljer
Uhhhmmm...

If he sees faster, that means the bullets are in slow motion for him. To what extent is unexplained. It is never said whether Captain America can sit there and track the bullet in the air or not, but seeing even a SLIGHT bit faster means the the bullet appears to be going a SLIGHT bit slower.

Slow motion.

Also; how much friggin faster do you THINK he'd have to see in order to dodge bullets like it was 'nothing.'

Lastly, I don't understand why you are bitching about Cap being able to do this. He was given a super soldier serum. It's a comic book. He doesn't need some thorough, thought out, explanation.

If you really want to get into it, Logan's enhanced senses aren't really a realistic explanation of being able to see bullets in slow motion, either.


capt peak human it just rediculous. Logan super senses mixed with his superhyuman reflexes allow him to do this. He see the bulelts with his senses and becase of his reflexes they apeare to be moving in slow motion.

capt explination is very fage and he really could be saying he see faster then her. it really hard to say if he truely see themk in slow motion. I jhave no problem with it really and i was never actaully bitching.

DD and wolverine just have way better reason for what they can do then capt.

I would also never put capts abilties to see the bulelts on the level of lgoans sicne the way it stated seem to imply he does not seem them very slowly nor is it ever realy explained. He also is enevr shown to my knowledge on panel see the bulelts as if there in slow motion.

Originally posted by capt it up
come on then show feat's

Those four words alone are enough to make that into a hypocritical comment, coming from a person among three that have failed to do anything but TALK about Gorgon's feats, without coming up with any concrete evidence.

Originally posted by srankmissingnin
So we are talking about an actual novel...

I'm not sure if that is canon or not, it is pretty much Barry Windsor-Smith's TPB, modernised.

it is cannon it was hyped by marvel and them amde it very clear that it was the origins of wolverien weapon x project

Originally posted by srankmissingnin
So we are talking about an actual novel...

I'm not sure if that is canon or not, it is pretty much Barry Windsor-Smith's TPB, modernised.

marvel marketedit as the true story of wolverine's origin...
it even ties loose ends and includes laungrim..an agent wolverine used to work with...

the author of the book stated multiple times that marvel gave him a large encyclopedia/dictionary for him on wolverine.. apparently it contained "some real secrets" in it, some of which were touched upon in the book.

take it as you will I guess.

Originally posted by capt it up
capt peak human it just rediculous. Logan super senses mixed with his superhyuman reflexes allow him to do this. He see the bulelts with his senses and becase of his reflexes they apeare to be moving in slow motion.

capt explination is very fage and he really could be saying he see faster then her. it really hard to say if he truely see themk in slow motion. I jhave no problem with it really and i was never actaully bitching.

DD and wolverine just have way better reason for what they can do then capt.

I would also never put capts abilties to see the bulelts on the level of lgoans sicne the way it stated seem to imply he does not seem them very slowly nor is it ever realy explained. He also is enevr shown to my knowledge on panel see the bulelts as if there in slow motion.

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Capt, seriously.

Steve can see bullets in slow motion. He has plenty of bullet dodging feats to imply this, and he also plain stated that the REASON he dodges bullets is because he sees faster.

I don't understand why this is so hard to shove down your throat...

I ask again, what has Gorgon accomplished that puts him at Gamora's level of ability, since everyone here is so keen on feats?

Originally posted by Soljer
Well...there's one bet that you can't particularly lose, 😬.

Regardless of whether that particular novel is canon or not, Wolverine has STARED at bullets as they passed him before. He's also caught a darkness bullet in the past (was that canon? 😬).

Not sure if it is cannon for Wolverine, but I'd bet it is cannon for Darkness. Darkhorse, Image and other small press comics tend to make the cross-overs cannon in their universe.

Honestly I'm sure Wolverine has some ability akin to seeing bullets in slow-motion. All of his senses are supposed to be amped to the same level of his hearing/smell, who can say how his enhanced sight works?

Originally posted by Soljer
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Capt, seriously.

Steve can see bullets in slow motion. He has plenty of bullet dodging feats to imply this, and he also plain stated that the REASON he dodges bullets is because he sees faster.

I don't understand why this is so hard to shove down your throat...

f*ck... I'm not about to question it, not after he pulled that "the one" impression during civil war 1 against those shield agents..

cap is HARD CORE.

Originally posted by SpunkySmurph
Those four words alone are enough to make that into a hypocritical comment, coming from a person among three that have failed to do anything but TALK about Gorgon's feats, without coming up with any concrete evidence.

oh really ok lets see Wolverine Agent Of Shield part 5 of 6 issue 30

gorgon is shown to move at the speed of thought

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Originally posted by Soljer
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Capt, seriously.

Steve can see bullets in slow motion. He has plenty of bullet dodging feats to imply this, and he also plain stated that the REASON he dodges bullets is because he sees faster.

I don't understand why this is so hard to shove down your throat...

it just nto evry weel explained. Logna and DD have good reaosns his reason not veyr good.

I don't mind him doing it I jsut don't think it at wolverines level which seems to be quite clear since he never been shown to see them in slow motion like Logan does.

Originally posted by Accel
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Originally posted by jinzin
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Means I made a boo-boo in my post and edited it out completely. 😮

Originally posted by darthgoober
That's because I'm not comparing her healing factor to his NOW, I'm comparing it to his 10 years ago(which was still pretty impressive).

Gamora doesn't really get hit anywhere near as much as Wolverine does, so that showing is about all we have to go by.


then thats pethetic. you have nothing then. don't even try to say any thign more if thats the best you got.

that feta was horriable. Logan done things far far more impressive back then

Originally posted by capt it up
oh really ok lets see Wolverine Agent Of Shield part 5 of 6 issue 30

gorgon is shown to move at the speed of thought


Ok so that's one. I consider her blitz against Ronan to be superior, but just to make progress in the discussion, let's say their equal.

Now what else has he done that indicates he's at Gamora's level?

also the darkness corss over was cannon for logan hell I pritty sure any thing from cow is cannon in marvel since they actaully showed how they are able to get from there world to the marvel one before

Originally posted by capt it up
then thats pethetic. you have nothing then. don't even try to say any thign more if thats the best you got.

that feta was horriable. Logan done things far far more impressive back then


Well, how many times outside of that novel has it been stated that Wolverine sees bullets in slow motion?

Originally posted by darthgoober
Ok so that's one. I consider her blitz against Ronan to be superior, but just to make progress in the discussion, let's say their equal.

Now what else has he done that indicates he's at Gamora's level?


the ronan feat is nto equal at all.

ronan does not even have super speed.

issue 31 he get gutted ,stabbed, al sorts of damage done to him with out slowing. also in issue 30 his house was blown to hell and he was fine.