Gorgon vs. Gamora

Yes, this is my third thread in my effort to gauge Gorgon's power level.

So...

It's Tomi Shishido vs. Gamora.

The Hand's head killing machine vs. The Deadliest Woman Alive (or in the Universe... one of them 😕 )

Battle takes place on a desolate planet with the same gravity and climate as earth. The ground is barren, with croppings of rocks and trees scattered around.

Combatants start fifty feet from eachother

Matches:
1)No Telepathy
2)Telepathy

No Stone-Sight attacks. No PIS. The usual rules.

So who takes this?

Originally posted by SpunkySmurph
Yes, this is my third thread in my effort to gauge Gorgon's power level.

So...

It's Tomi Shishido vs. Gamora.

The Hand's head killing machine vs. The Deadliest Woman Alive (or in the Universe... one of them 😕 )

Battle takes place on a desolate planet with the same gravity and climate as earth. The ground is barren, with croppings of rocks and trees scattered around.

Combatants start fifty feet from eachother

Matches:
1)No Telepathy
2)Telepathy

No Stone-Sight attacks. No PIS. The usual rules.

So who takes this?

gorgon

Originally posted by guy222
gorgon

Do you have a reason?

I'm feeling nice. I'll ask you, before assuming you have no idea about who's even in the fight smartass

Originally posted by SpunkySmurph
Do you have a reason?

I'm feeling nice. I'll ask you, before assuming you have no idea about who's even in the fight smartass

there's two gorgon

ok

taking gorgon

if its the inhuman, still taking gorgon

Originally posted by guy222
there's two gorgon

ok

taking gorgon

if its the inhuman, still taking gorgon

I put 'Tomi Shishido' in the opening post. As in, it's the mutant, not the the inhuman.

Originally posted by SpunkySmurph
I put 'Tomi Shishido' in the opening post. As in, it's the mutant, not the the inhuman.

cool

taking tomi ftw

Originally posted by guy222
cool

taking tomi ftw

Originally posted by SpunkySmurph
Do you have a reason?

I'm feeling nice. I'll ask you, before assuming you have no idea about who's even in the fight smartass

Originally posted by SpunkySmurph

or read every thought that crosses her mind?

Originally posted by jinzin
aside from the fact that he can turn her into stone with a glance....

or read every thought that crosses her mind?

which is why I put no stone-sight attacks in the OP...

and what about the match with no TP?

oops didn't see that....

hmm without tp it's very hard to say but I'll STILL take gorgon simply based on his irregular healing factor....

wolverine described that he and shield had hit gorgon with everything they had, LCD rockets, flamethrowers, chainsaws, machine guns, teh!1! claws!...nothing was working on the guy, he didn't register damage inflicted on him whatsoever.. which tells me that gamora's pressure points and nerve strikes are practically useless in this fight... She seems to really be limited in what she can actually do to gorgon.... and the guys no slouch without his TP he trained blindfolded, blocked automatic gunfire, and proved himself faster than elektra AND wolverine by comparison.... he also broke a sword to peices with his TEETH.....

gamora would have to fight flawlessly to win this fight, and I don't think that's going to happen, I can't even fathom how she would plan to take him down in the first place.

Does Gamora have the "Godslayer"?

Originally posted by jinzin
oops didn't see that....

hmm without tp it's very hard to say but I'll STILL take gorgon simply based on his irregular healing factor....

wolverine described that he and shield had hit gorgon with everything they had, LCD rockets, flamethrowers, chainsaws, machine guns, teh!1! claws!...nothing was working on the guy, he didn't register damage inflicted on him whatsoever.. which tells me that gamora's pressure points and nerve strikes are practically useless in this fight... She seems to really be limited in what she can actually do to gorgon.... and the guys no slouch without his TP he trained blindfolded, blocked automatic gunfire, and proved himself faster than elektra AND wolverine by comparison.... he also broke a sword to peices with his TEETH.....

gamora would have to fight flawlessly to win this fight, and I don't think that's going to happen, I can't even fathom how she would plan to take him down in the first place.

Gamora also has a quite powerful healing factor. I'll see if I can find the scan in a minute.

A healing factor does not negate pressure points- most pressure points work on the concept of either striking area prone to automatic reflex, or tricking the body. For example,

"The baroreceptor in the carotid artery is pressure-sensitive, allowing the body to control the bloodflow into the brain. Pressure against this region will 'trick' the body into thinking that blood pressure is too high, and thus will constrict and lower blood pressure - which can cause blackout."

That's one specific example of tricking the body. As you can see, a healing factor would, if anything, work against someone if this were to happen.

And Gamora DOES fight flawlessly. She's more then likley the best MA in the Marvel universe. Between her skill and her speed/strength, I'm willing to bet she can take the majority.

Theres still the matter of the match WITH telepathy as well...

Originally posted by darthgoober
Does Gamora have the "Godslayer"?

No. That wouldn't be fair. 😬

Originally posted by jinzin
oops didn't see that....

hmm without tp it's very hard to say but I'll STILL take gorgon simply based on his irregular healing factor....

wolverine described that he and shield had hit gorgon with everything they had, LCD rockets, flamethrowers, chainsaws, machine guns, teh!1! claws!...nothing was working on the guy, he didn't register damage inflicted on him whatsoever.. which tells me that gamora's pressure points and nerve strikes are practically useless in this fight... She seems to really be limited in what she can actually do to gorgon.... and the guys no slouch without his TP he trained blindfolded, blocked automatic gunfire, and proved himself faster than elektra AND wolverine by comparison.... he also broke a sword to peices with his TEETH.....

gamora would have to fight flawlessly to win this fight, and I don't think that's going to happen, I can't even fathom how she would plan to take him down in the first place.

Originally posted by SpunkySmurph
Gamora also has a quite powerful healing factor. I'll see if I can find the scan in a minute.

A healing factor does not negate pressure points- most pressure points work on the concept of either striking area prone to automatic reflex, or tricking the body. For example,

"The baroreceptor in the carotid artery is pressure-sensitive, allowing the body to control the bloodflow into the brain. Pressure against this region will 'trick' the body into thinking that blood pressure is too high, and thus will constrict and lower blood pressure - which can cause blackout."

That's one specific example of tricking the body. As you can see, a healing factor would, if anything, work against someone if this were to happen.

And Gamora DOES fight flawlessly. She's more then likley the best MA in the Marvel universe. Between her skill and her speed/strength, I'm willing to bet she can take the majority.

Theres still the matter of the match WITH telepathy as well...

does has gamera been induced with a healing factor that will help her in this fight though?
wolverine put her down with one stab... she was out for a good long while... has she been inhanced in this area?

I'm not sure if I buy that having a hf works against you when dealing with pressure points, especially considering the evidence that bodes against it, in any case it's not just gorgon's HF that was at play there.. you didn't read more carefully but.. he didn't REGISTER pain either....
being one of the undead as it's advantages i suppose but he wasn't at all damaged nor did he react to pain.. THAT's why I say gamera's pressure points will do jack against him.

She fights flawlessly against big bricks with nowhere near as good a fighting ability, but that doesn't really mean a thing to me, all street levelers and their grandma's do that too...

all she needs to make is ONE mistake and gorgon takes her, and that's without his advantages that were stripped of him.

Originally posted by bigbran
So, in other words... he is tougher than Ronin?

depends on what we're talking about....

but yes, i think it's safe to say that u.s. agent would probably fail to KO gorgon with a hit to the head....
what about ronin? 😉

first off that pressure point garbage makes no senses.

first how do people think normal people fix pressure point damage? the body fix'es it. If the body did not fix it then the person would remain KO or dead. So if the person has a healing factor that dmaage is beign repair are an extreme rate.

Originally posted by jinzin
does has gamera been induced with a healing factor that will help her in this fight though?
wolverine put her down with one stab... she was out for a good long while... has she been inhanced in this area?

Originally posted by jinzin
I'm not sure if I buy that having a hf works against you when dealing with pressure points, especially considering the evidence that bodes against it, in any case it's not just gorgon's HF that was at play there.. you didn't read more carefully but.. he didn't REGISTER pain either....
being one of the undead as it's advantages i suppose but he wasn't at all damaged nor did he react to pain.. THAT's why I say gamera's pressure points will do jack against him.

Originally posted by jinzin
She fights flawlessly against big bricks with nowhere near as good a fighting ability, but that doesn't really mean a thing to me, all street levelers and their grandma's do that too...

Originally posted by jinzin
all she needs to make is ONE mistake and gorgon takes her, and that's without his advantages that were stripped of him.

Originally posted by jinzin
depends on what we're talking about....

but yes, i think it's safe to say that u.s. agent would probably fail to KO gorgon with a hit to the head....
what about ronin? 😉

Originally posted by jinzin
does has gamera been induced with a healing factor that will help her in this fight though?
wolverine put her down with one stab... she was out for a good long while... has she been inhanced in this area?

I'm not sure if I buy that having a hf works against you when dealing with pressure points, especially considering the evidence that bodes against it, in any case it's not just gorgon's HF that was at play there.. you didn't read more carefully but.. he didn't REGISTER pain either....
being one of the undead as it's advantages i suppose but he wasn't at all damaged nor did he react to pain.. THAT's why I say gamera's pressure points will do jack against him.

She fights flawlessly against big bricks with nowhere near as good a fighting ability, but that doesn't really mean a thing to me, all street levelers and their grandma's do that too...

all she needs to make is ONE mistake and gorgon takes her, and that's without his advantages that were stripped of him.

First, let's get this out of the way- it's Gamora. Not Gamera. 😉

Secondly, Gamora healed from that wound from Wolverine. And she was distracted and he took a cheap shot. And that was Gamora before her upgrade.

I didn't say anything about it causing pain, and I said the hf MIGHT work against you. Regardless, hf or no, your body still works against you. It doesn't utilize pain- it utilizes your body's ability to recognize blood pressure levels and compensate. And his body HAS to be able to do that, judging by the fact that if it couldn't, his hf would be fairly useless. Makes sense, no?

She's mastered 83% of the forms of MA in the universe... I doubt her fighting is anything but 'flawless'

And, with her huge strength, speed and skill categories, Gorgon really only has to make one mistake as well... and which do you think will come first?