Does god make mistakes

Started by Symmetric Chaos5 pages

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Originally posted by Shakyamunison
Does that fact that I got the number wrong mean that my point is no good?

Not at all.

I'm just emotionally insecure and pointing out others short coming makes me feel like a big man. (besides its better than one of the theists just saying "Genesis 6:1 doesn't say that" and not mention that 6:6 doe)

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Originally posted by Symmetric Chaos
Not at all.

I'm just emotionally insecure and pointing out others short coming makes me feel like a big man. (besides its better than one of the theists just saying "Genesis 6:1 doesn't say that" and not mention that 6:6 doe)

There is hope for you. 😆

... nobody refuted what i said about jesus?.... Wow..... i figured someone would toss bible verses at me just to make me feel stupid...say are you people sleeping or is my theory becoming harder to disprove?

God just likes to change his human based mind......Quite different from a real gods mind...

Re: Does god make mistakes

Originally posted by black_goku#1
i believe there is a reason the old testament is rarely mentioned except when the story shows gods grace god was wrathful to the extreme and then he became all forgiving does he make mistakes i say yes he does me being one... which would mean i believe that he exits but like us he is flawed and so is christianity((oops spelled that wrong)) hmmm i think i just solved my religious delimma 😱 💃 💃 💃 😱 💃

Yes, watch the news some night. All the horrible shit in this world can't be intentional.

He never said it to Noah which was my point, plus whatever translation you are using is weak because regret does not explain the emotion that God was feeling. The word is much more similar to repent, which is similar to regret, but in the context does not indicate regret. Within the context it is obvious that God is saddened that mankind became corrupted of their own volition and by Satan's corruption of their flesh.

Originally posted by Nellinator
He never said it to Noah which was my point, plus whatever translation you are using is weak because regret does not explain the emotion that God was feeling. The word is much more similar to repent, which is similar to regret, but in the context does not indicate regret. Within the context it is obvious that God is saddened that mankind became corrupted of their own volition and by Satan's corruption of their flesh.

Splitting hairs.

Not really, God never made a mistake, his creation was corrupted by us and the devil. There is a big difference and that is the point of this thread if I have any reading comprehension.

Originally posted by Nellinator
Not really, God never made a mistake, his creation was corrupted by us and the devil. There is a big difference and that is the point of this thread if I have any reading comprehension.

But we are his creation. If we can corrupt something it is still his fault in the end.

Same for the "devil".

6:5 And God saw that the wickedness of man was great in the earth, and that every imagination of the thoughts of his heart was only evil continually
6:6 And it repented the LORD that he had made man on the earth, and it grieved him at his heart.
6:7 And the LORD said, I will destroy man whom I have created from the face of the earth; both man, and beast, and the creeping thing, and the fowls of the air; for it repenteth me that I have made them.

1) it sounds like this Lord fellow thinks he messed up and wants to try again
2) who is he repenting too?

He isn't repenting to anyone which is part of the point. It's an expression of pain at seeing them so far from the path he laid out for them. It makes no statement that he wants to try again, indeed he keeps his creation intact showing that he didn't mess up, we did.

Originally posted by Nellinator
He isn't repenting to anyone which is part of the point. It's an expression of pain at seeing them so far from the path he laid out for them. It makes no statement that he wants to try again, indeed he keeps his creation intact showing that he didn't mess up, we did.
Do you believe it to have actually happened? Or is it metaphorical to you?

Believe what to have happened? The flood?

Originally posted by Nellinator
Believe what to have happened? The flood?

Yes.

Yes, there is definite evidence of it in both anthropological and archaelogical fields. The extent of it I have yet to decide. At the very least it was over a large area of the Middle East.

Originally posted by Nellinator
It's an expression of pain at seeing them so far from the path he laid out for them. It makes no statement that he wants to try again, indeed he keeps his creation intact showing that he didn't mess up, we did.

He still failed to create creatures that could follow his "obvious" path. That would be a mistake.

That would be called free will. I believe that he created us knowing that we would screw up.

Originally posted by Nellinator
I believe that he created us knowing that we would screw up.

What kind of nut-case is this guy?

He made us so that we would screw up and then punishes us because we do exactly what he expected. Thats insane.

Originally posted by Nellinator
That would be called free will. I believe that he created us knowing that we would screw up.

Then we couldn't actually decide. It was already certain we would screw up.

Originally posted by Symmetric Chaos
6:5 And God saw that the wickedness of man was great in the earth, and that every imagination of the thoughts of his heart was only evil continually
6:6 And it repented the LORD that he had made man on the earth, and it grieved him at his heart.
6:7 And the LORD said, I will destroy man whom I have created from the face of the earth; both man, and beast, and the creeping thing, and the fowls of the air; for it repenteth me that I have made them.

1) it sounds like this Lord fellow thinks he messed up and wants to try again
2) who is he repenting too?

I don't see how this insinuates that God made a mistake. One can have regret or sorrow over something, without having made a mistake.

For example, I may call your above argument stupid, particularly since the scripture above clearly displays God's unconditional love, and his ability to demonstrate mercy, despite evil being commited against him.

I may regret or have compassion on you after calling this argument stupid, paticularly if I have hurt your feelings in doing so. But that doesn't necessarily mean that I have made a mistake in calling it stupid. It's just another demonstration of me being a loving guy.

With that being said, I truly regret if anything I've stated above has hurt your feelings.