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" Besides, the writers have said that her choice was made at the end of DMC. " ...oh did they really say it??? 😕 it´s bad..i don ´t know what i should think i am so confused...but lovethemtigers you are totally right all these questions...i agree...it is all very weird...if writers wanted jack only as bump in the road why all these scenes and chemistry and oh..."the most correct choice"-this also sound bad to me...but nothing isn´t so bad as it seems...i hope it will be all resolved i believe t&t resolved it really correct...but for me correct isn´t let liz/will stay together as they were even this "love" isn´t love at all...and throw away true love (jack/liz) and let jack stay alone as he was and i am sure then he will be heartbroken...god..first woman he truly loved and he stay lonely again???i don´t think so...i CAN´T imagine it i simply can´t it will be so cruel... 🙁 ...so...as i said i´ll believe that t&t aren´t so stupid to let liz/will after all stay together...!!!

I gotta admit, u guys got a point. I'm just saying though, how are they going to solve this? w/l shippers will be angru if liz ends up with Jack and j/l shippers will be agry if liz ends up with will? But, I agree that it would be a little hard on potc fans if liz died. She's the only kick-butt girl in the movie.

Originally posted by willofthewisp
All valid questions and I think if they really wanted Liz and Will to be the couple the entire time, they would have changed the story in DMC in order to make the movie the same length of time without the scenes between Liz and Jack. It's bad editing if it's Will and Liz the whole way.

Exactly...if they wanted to create tension for will and liz..to add more excitement in their relationship...then surely they could have come up with something better than using Jack....come on, they must know you can't pair her up with someone whom she has so much more chemistry with and then expect us to accept her going back with Will...it just doens't add up in my book..especially since the majority of us have secretly wanted j/l since movie 1.....and why did they do it...cus they see what we see..great chemistry between jack and liz....it makes so much sense...

I am actually lying to myself and to everyone when I say i'll be happy with a w/e ending as long as jack's happy...because i don't see how it can be a happy ending..unless it's jack /liz... 🙁

Originally posted by JacksSweet
" Besides, the writers have said that her choice was made at the end of DMC. " ...oh did they really say it??? 😕 it´s bad..i don ´t know what i should think i am so confused...but lovethemtigers you are totally right all these questions...i agree...it is all very weird...if writers wanted jack only as bump in the road why all these scenes and chemistry and oh..."the most correct choice"-this also sound bad to me...but nothing isn´t so bad as it seems...i hope it will be all resolved i believe t&t resolved it really correct...but for me correct isn´t let liz/will stay together as they were even this "love" isn´t love at all...and throw away true love (jack/liz) and let jack stay alone as he was and i am sure then he will be heartbroken...god..first woman he truly loved and he stay lonely again???i don´t think so...i CAN´T imagine it i simply can´t it will be so cruel... 🙁 ...so...as i said i´ll believe that t&t aren´t so stupid to let liz/will after all stay together...!!!

ditto..i just can't fathom a w/e ending....no way...Jack is the main character..they've already established that...and they have established that Jack wants elizabeth..and it's pretty clear at the end of DMC it's more than just lust for Jack....and by some of the leaked script...Jack seems heartbroken by Liz's cold shoulder....so, who cares if Will ends up heartbroken....but Jack..no way...sorry, that's just how I see it....Will is a supporting actor...Jack is the Main Actor...who was nominated and won for best match....Jack and Liz..NOT Will and LIz....and who is favorite male actor...Johnny Depp....and who was nominated for an actor in a LEAD role...Johnny Depp as Jack...Will is considered a supporting actor...Liz is the Main Female Character..it just doens't make sense...t and t really screwed this one up..if they don't correct it in AWE...

If will stabs the heart and became the immortal captain of the FD that would be fine with me..but for Jack to do it....no way...unless Liz joins him in immortality and Jack and Liz can sail off together on the FD...but I doubt that....

They say it's a kick-ass ending...so kick-ass it had to be release world-wide on the same date.....supposedly...then yet, at the same time we have them quoted as saying they didn't really like the way AWE ends....go figure...these two are just trying to mess with our minds, me thinks...and it's working....

Whenever I start thinking about jack and elizabeth...and how t and t has got me all tore up about it ....I just feel like I need a drink... 🍺

I'll join you with a Jack and Coke.

Hey, maybe we could join Johnny with a glass of fine red wine

LOL...Speaking of which I'm alil Tispy MeSelf Right now...lol!!! JusT Had tO Log oN and Say Me Loves KMC...Muah! 😄

kick ass ending? Humm. Well I think Will is going to stab the heart, therefore he will be sundered from Elizabeth, but not necessarily for ever. If Liz chooses Will and he becomes Capt. of the FD she is going to be able to see him every 10 yrs. But I believe a turn of events are going to take place between those 10 yrs. I believe Liz is going to marry Will before he stabs the heart and goes away. Everyone is going to believe that she will stay and wait for Will. But I think what will after afterwards at the very end of the movie, is what is going to be a kick-ass ending.

you said that elizabeth chose will at the end by killing off jack, but maybe they ment that she made her choice at the very end... when she said that she would go to worlds end to bring him back? thats a choice too. if she loved will she wouldnt become so passionate about jack. all my logic is telling me its going to be j/l cuz will will get the hell over it. if he does love her he will let her go. i mean it is possible to love someone and have them not love you back... it would be the final test of will's character development. and he is gaining a father, so i see it as a trade off. jack gets the one thing he never had. the love of another. <3

mss mira,
I very much agree with you and believe the clues so far have built up to this.

At the end of DMC script the way it talks about the kiss and Jack looking into elizabeth's eyes knowing her TRUE heart is the same as his and tnt both said they want each other but don't want to want each other, that just describes desire there, or how tnt said in the coomenatry she killed a man she may indeed love. Why even put or say these things if it's not going to happen, it's just logic and brilliant to put them together at the end of all this. I don't see liz as the type to wait for Will every 10 years because tnt said she may indeed love Jack sparrow and he will be alive so she might go wih him in the ending. I still have complete faith of them getting together, and yes Jack is the main character they wouldn't want him sad at the ending because the ONE girl he actually loves doesn't love him back because she loves a man she only sees every 10 freakin years! they said Jack has to be in some kind of trouble during the trilogy for him to be at all at peace or happy doesn't go with the movies so maybe in the end for him to end with liz will break the unhappy barrier and that will be a kick ass ending. yea i don't know how they will make it where each ship is happy that part still is a mystery.

If Will becomes captain of the Flying Dutchman, I suspect it won't last for very long. 😄

what do you mean?

I just have this feeling that Will won't be captain of the Flying Dutchman forever. It seems like a very dissatisfying ending for his character arc. 😄

the dutchman always needs a captain, and Will will become that captain. How do you figure he will stop being captain? i doubt he will tear out his heart.

I thinks it's a great ending for him not because i hate him but he is Captain and he controls the sea meaning he can control sparrow, and he is reunited with his twice cursed father, a good ending for him i believe.

This is the only problem I have with J/E: Will. I like Will and he deserves more than running into Daddy's arms. It's not a good ending to have him captain what is basically a slave ship except unlike real slave ships, the people on there do the master's bidding for more than a lifetime. I just can't see anyone with a good heart, Will or Jack or whoever, taking that kind of undertaking.

It would be interested if he was the captain for a little while. Think about it. If you're the captain, you have absolute power, don't you? Can't you just free everyone on the ship or appoint someone else? Are you really that limited? I think Davy was/is limited because that's how he's chosen to be. He's not just some brokenhearted loser. He's evil. I just don't want that to happen to Will. Jack and Elizabeth? Oh yes. Sign me up for that. But give Will some dignity.

The thing with the Flying Dutchman is that it's not actually supposed to be a slave ship. It's initial purpose was to rescue dying or drowning sailors and bring them to the underworld. When Davy had his heart broken, he warped the purpose of the Dutchman. So really, he would have his dignity in that he would be preventing other sailors from having shared the same fate as his father, savvy?

But it's still not a good ending for Will. What does he really get out of it? Nothing. Yeah, he gets his dad who ran out on him, but instead of being free to DO things, he'd be bound to the Dutchman.

That would be a real waste of Will's character.