Originally posted by inamilist
Rutog:lol, aside from all the baiting and what have you, I propose a challenge.
You know what people don't agree with you about with regards to storm, so, in one or two posts, why not outline the best argument you have for why she is really as powerful as you say. Post feats, as many as you can, raid a respect thread somewhere. A lot of what you say is kind of all over the place, it would be way more sense if you put it into something coherent and linear, with as much on panel support as you can provide.
Also: Do you think Storm could put down Man-Thing 😖hifty:
lol! I know an awful lot about Storm. I usually cleain to know about every inch of her history. What you propose will actually take some time as I have a lot of information and I am a student. I'll try to do this this week or by this weekend if possible.
As for Storm vs. Man-Thing, I don't know didly squat about him and would not feel comfortable at all debating this one.
Hey Rutog? You know you said that Storm redirected Siena Blaze's power?
You ARE aware that she could not have done it without Cyclops, RIGHT?
Oh, and if you want to go that way...
Namor has taken full punch from Hulk.
Hulk has destroyed asteroid twice the size of Earth among other things.
Twice the size of Earth >>>>> Blast that can destroy half of mainland Scotland
Hulk >>>>> Siena Blaze
Siena Blaze's power >>>>>>>> Storm's power (as she could not contain the power herself)
Namor's durability >>>>> Storm's winds.
Namor wins. I am just using your logic.
Anyway, Namor will just fly at her before she can react and tear her head off. He has reflexes that are hundreds of times faster then hers and faster flight speed. There.
Dark Crawler, you need to reread the Siena Blaze issue. Storm did indeed redirect Sienna's full power. Scott merely shot his blast as a precaution to protect himself, Ororo and Xavier in case any energy escaped Storm's winds.
Hulk's power is not one that is set. Its a moveable power level since it rises and falls based on rage. Namor taking a full punch from Hulk does not mean he can take Storm's winds as you will have to prove that Hulk had that kind of strength to destroy an astroid twice the size of Earth in that fight with Namor.
I say that Storm's winds will beat out Namor as they will be continually smashing up against him and dashing him against mountain sides and the ground. Plus, at the same time, she can make projectiles hurling them with extreme force out of everything from sand to boulders with those winds and continually batter him till he's unconscious. If a hurricane can send straw through trees, imagine what Storm's winds can do!
Also, I don't believe Namor flies faster than Ororo and he certainly does not fly faster than she can will something to happen. Namor has to physically get to Ororo to punch her. Storm can hit him from a distance and keep him at bay.
Originally posted by Rutog98
[b]Galactic CoreHope this helps...
For clarification purposes, Storm can only survive in space for 2 minutes unaided before she expires. This was established earlier in this arc. My interpretation of this has been that the process nearly killed her since it left her out in deep space unaided. She ends up surviving because an Acanti finds her before she actually dies and heals her body. The Official Handbook agrees with me. [/B]
Hm. I don't see a manipulation of the stars.
Thanks though.
Thier are alot of categories i feel (and i think alot of you agree) a character needs to be top tier (and in this case, i am talking about beyond alpha mutant top tier)
A few basics would be:
Very high energy output (be it physical or otherwise)
A very high level of speed or reaction time
Very good durability or resistance to physical damage
IMO, storm is severely lacking in the last department, and has questionable reaction time, when stacked up against true top tier characters
and in my very humble opinion, i believe that alone is enough to DQ storm from ever achieveing anything beyond high level mutant. Certianly not omega. The way i see it, put her against some of the top tier mutants (Vulcan, Cable W/out TO, to name a few) and you can see why she is lacking in key areas. While she may have the potential upwards of VERY high energy output, not only does this take a bit more time than "top tier" characters, her durability is extremely low when stacked up to almost everyone top tier, and she is extremely vulnerable to most of the types of things high level characters bring to the table.
Storm is POTENTIALLY high level mutant, but her shortcomings imo can be ovecome by "regular" mutants with the right powerset
Originally posted by ExtraMision5555
Thier are alot of categories i feel (and i think alot of you agree) a character needs to be top tier (and in this case, i am talking about beyond alpha mutant top tier)A few basics would be:
Very high energy output (be it physical or otherwise)
A very high level of speed or reaction time
Very good durability or resistance to physical damageIMO, storm is severely lacking in the last department, and has questionable reaction time, when stacked up against true top tier characters
and in my very humble opinion, i believe that alone is enough to DQ storm from ever achieveing anything beyond high level mutant. Certianly not omega. The way i see it, put her against some of the top tier mutants (Vulcan, Cable W/out TO, to name a few) and you can see why she is lacking in key areas. While she may have the potential upwards of VERY high energy output, not only does this take a bit more time than "top tier" characters, her durability is extremely low when stacked up to almost everyone top tier, and she is extremely vulnerable to most of the types of things high level characters bring to the table.
Storm is POTENTIALLY high level mutant, but her shortcomings imo can be ovecome by "regular" mutants with the right powerset
I agree. Storm severely lacks defensive techniques. She may dodge bullets (yes it's true🙄 ), but she doesn't have the right defensive powers against powerful energy frontal attacks. I get what you're saying. If she's ever going to evolve into the same thing she did in another timeline (becoming an elemental being | or just turn into mist (bloodstorm)), that is enough IMO.
But one thing still I won't agree and NO ONE HAS PROVEN OR DARED ANSWERED from the ORIGINAL Storm vs. Namor thread (someone is so stupid not to use the SEARCH function 🙄 ) is that he is faster than Storm in aerodynamic sense. In MarvelDatabase.com, it is officially stated that he can reach up to 60 miles per hour. BUT Storm can reach up to 300 miles per hour with her winds (and can go faster). How can he practically speedblitz her is just not entering my mind. So the speedblitz theory is just unapplicable. Unless someone can explain it to me...DarkCrawler?
That's just it. Don't know the upper limits of his speed. I know he was able to fly from one part of the world to another in a VERY short amount of time (can't remember the locations, but Dark Crawler will help you out there).
I believe he also reached space/stratosphere very quickly while carrying something very heavy.
Again, DC can help you a lot more than I can.
