Emma Frost Respect Thread

Originally posted by Charlotte DeBel
[b]X-Men 205 (spoilers)

Spoiler:
Emma's astral projection KOes Sinister while at his base in Antarctica, while Emma by herself stays at X- Mansion. She doesn't even use Cerebra to perform that feat!

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Yeah, I managed to get spoilers. Won't be able to get the issue for a while.

Spoiler:
Turns out she's blocking Sinister...and possibly Exodus as well. Nightcrawler BFR's Exodus and then Emma senses that Julians is in trouble(Bleeding to death) She leaves the X-Men and astral projects to the New X-Men and Pixie teleports them out of there but the team becomes scattered.
When Emma leaves the X-Men Sinister gets his powers back and mindwipes Colossus. Angel gets injured by Scrambler. The X-Men start losing and retreat with the information that Cable is the one with the baby.
I'm going to have to go and get the issue to confirm though. Sentinels programming gets buggered.
Next issue the telepaths are taken out first poor Emmes and Cuckoos

From those scans you posted it looks like Emma is working all the from the School to the Antartica without Cerebro. She then projects to Washington to help the New X-Men.

Originally posted by Creshosk
If you're going to include Generation X, why not its members? I think she had a pretty good student teacher relationship with them and that's one thing I love about her is she is an awesome teacher. Even though she blames herself, there were circumstances beyond her control at the time of the death of the original hellions.

Under J you need to put Jubilee. Back even before generation X fully formed they had a little bonding time while attempting to rescue Generation X.

I have nothing but respect for Emma. 🙂

True, Jubilee and the rest of Gen X do have more of a relationship with her then Psylocke. And Betsy gets her own bio.

Cerebro is an older model, the present one is Cerebra.

Originally posted by Charlotte DeBel
Cerebro is an older model, the present one is Cerebra.

Typo 😮

Forgot to add one more thing:

Spoiler:
From what I hear Lady Mastermind looks like she's also gets her powers blocked by Emma. Once Emma leaves to help the New X-Men both her and Sinister get their powers back.

Originally posted by ExodusCloak
Typo 😮

Forgot to add one more thing:

Spoiler:
From what I hear Lady Mastermind looks like she's also gets her powers blocked by Emma. Once Emma leaves to help the New X-Men both her and Sinister get their powers back.

And some people still dare to hate Emma after all that stuff...

Originally posted by Charlotte DeBel
And some people still dare to hate Emma after all that stuff...

😛 I think Gambit has it worse then her.(And I really don't like Gambit) Gambit is always the one who is supposed to be the one who "betrays" the team. Emma hasn't gone back to the dark side in over what 10 real life years? And people still say she's evil.

Originally posted by ExodusCloak
😛 I think Gambit has it worse then her.(And I really don't like Gambit) Gambit is always the one who is supposed to be the one who "betrays" the team. Emma hasn't gone back to the dark side in over what 10 real life years? And people still say she's evil.

In fact, my obsession with X-Men started with Gambit, though as for now I don't like him much.
What else Emma has to do to get out of sacred redhaired cow's shade?

Ive actually always liked the Xmen but I kinda got a love hate thing going on with mutants.

Originally posted by ExodusCloak
😛 I think Gambit has it worse then her.(And I really don't like Gambit) Gambit is always the one who is supposed to be the one who "betrays" the team. Emma hasn't gone back to the dark side in over what 10 real life years? And people still say she's evil.

She had a primary concern for herself. Because lets face it if you're not in a position to others then you simply can't help others. And secondarily it seems she has a second priority to helping kids out. Back when she had the hellions, and tried to get kitty pride transfered. HEr attatchment to the students lasted right up until they were killed, at which point he have the beif jaunt in bobby's body culminating in Professor X giving her a job at the school.

She was never really involved in "evil". sure she was an antagonist to the X-Men. But I didn't see her as evil.

Originally posted by Creshosk
She was never really evil in the first place. Selfish argueable. But not evil.

She had a primary concern for herself. Because lets face it if you're not in a position to others then you simply can't help others. And secondarily it seems she has a second priority to helping kids out. Back when she had the hellions, and tried to get kitty pride transfered. HEr attatchment to the students lasted right up until they were killed, at which point he have the beif jaunt in bobby's body culminating in Professor X giving her a job at the school.

She was never really involved in "evil". sure she was an antagonist to the X-Men. But I didn't see her as evil.

Agreed, I had this discussion with another user before and they classified her actions as evil eg the Torture of Storm and revenge on Seville and Buckman after they tried to take her life via Sentinels and killed Lourdes. I'm not going to justify calculated murder but you're right evil is too strong a word to describe her days at the Hellfire Club.
I suppose you get different levels of "good" and "bad", Emma's lies somewhere in the middle. And I guess it comes down to your own personal definition of evil.

Originally posted by ExodusCloak
Agreed, I had this discussion with another user before and they classified her actions as evil eg the Torture of Storm and revenge on Seville and Buckman after they tried to take her life via Sentinels and killed Lourdes. I'm not going to justify calculated murder but you're right evil is too strong a word to describe her days at the Hellfire Club.
I suppose you get different levels of "good" and "bad", Emma's lies somewhere in the middle. And I guess it comes down to your own personal definition of evil.

Originally posted by Creshosk
If the story was told from her point of veiw the x-men might have been precieved as evil.

Bald man in wheel chair who recruits children and then trains them to be his own personal army, I could see it happening.

From X-Men #205: Good ol' Emma Frost certainly cares about her students' privacies! Here, it is mentioned that she protects the students at the mansion from the bored perverts withheld in the Sentinel O*N*E* Squad:

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Just to put everything in one post:

Emma Frost, Exodus, Mr. Sinister and Lady Mastermind

Emma aids Storms team all the way from the X-Mansion in Westchester New York without the aid of Cerebra, in their battle against Mr. Sinister, Exodus, Mystique, The Marauders, The Acolytes and The Brotherhood which is occurring in Antarctica somewhere around the Sor Rondane Mountains.

Emma manages to shield the X-Men from Mr. Sinister(Who is no slouch telepathically as he's knocked down Nate Grey telepathically, and was destroying Jeans(She lost her telepathy back then) mind. He also smashed Psylocke on the Astral Plane and she did have her powers), Exodus(Who has pwned Jean Grey with ease twice, and who has pwned Xavier with ease twice and who has taken on two Eternals Sersi who he pwned once and then stalemated in Bloodties and Thena who he was telepathically crushing while similtaneously fighting Quicksilver on Isotope E) and Lady Masterminds powers. Also Emma's presence causes Mr. Sinister, Exodus and Lady Mastermind to be helpless eg Sinister and Exodus can't use their other powers as they're being blocked by her. Leaving the X-Men(To BFR Exodus). Once she gets distracted and searches for her students who happens to be in peril aswell Sinister and Lady Mastermind get their powers back. Exodus is BFR'd.

Also note that Emma has finally managed to bypass the newer version of the Sentinels psi-shielding. In Civil War X-Men #2 Emma couldn't pick up any thought patterns from the updated versions due to the Psi-Shielding being upgraded. However now it seems as though she's managed to get around that problem which is not a surprise since she exploited the O.N.E Sentinels tech in Deadly Genesis #2 as well.
Anyway anytime the Pilot tries to look at the girls dormitories Emma gives him a stress headache and a nosebleed.

Continued in Next Post:

Emma Frost, Exodus, Mr. Sinister and Lady Mastermind

Continued;

Simultaneously in Washington DC, the New X-Men are under attack from the Purifiers and the Reavers. Pixie eventually manages to teleport Rictor and the rest of the team out of there but the port goes wrong and the team end up scattered. Pixies cries for help alert Emma who's loses concentration while trying to locate the scattered children and Rictor. She learns that they're scattered between New York and Washington and from Rictor learns that the Purifiers do not have the baby.

To be continued in Next Post

Emma Frost, Exodus, Mr. Sinister and Lady Mastermind

Continued;

Now because she lost concentration due to her students being in trouble yet again, she was locked out by Sinister who just wrecks Storms team. Scrambler messes with Angel and Logans healing factor. Colossus gets mind raped by Mr. Sinister. Storm tries to hold back the Marauders while the others escape but fails as Karima and Lady Mastermind emerge seconds later from the base and attack Nightcrawler and Wolverine. Nightcrawler ends up getting shot by Scalphunter but just manages to port to safety.
Anyway Emma finally establishes a link with Logan and Nightcrawler and finds out that Cable has the baby.
The O.N.E Sentinels are over run by a silver metallic looking substance(Cables techno-organic virus??? not sure what it is at the moment) and the Sentinels attack the mansion. Emma is knocked out first from the impact.

Generation X vs Black Tom and Juggernaut

Emma's sister Cordelia was sort of a reason for confrontation between Black Tom&Juggy. Emma manipulates Tom into attacking Juggy, provides mindlink to the team and finally KOes Juggs once the helmet is removed.

To be continued in the next post

Generation X vs Black Tom and Juggernaut

Why having a telepath is useful

Beast and Storm are busy interrogating Vermin, for some odd reason they forgot that Emma is a telepath and has already deduced that Vermin is telling the truth. She's also able to sense psychic fingerprints all over his ganglia and synapses and deduce that he was mind controlled.

Psychic Scan

Emma Frost performs a psychic scan to see if there is anything abnormal in Kurts mind. Apart from Kurts Soulsword which Emma can sense there's nothing abnormal.

Emma and Storm

Emma doesn't really pay attention to Storms rants.

Emma teaching

Who said Emma was a bad teacher?

Emma's Reaction to Wolverine getting a Giant Robot

Yes this is in continuity it was later references in the Civil War Daily Bugle.

Beast, Emma and Bobby perform surgery on Nightcrawler

Emma drags Kurt out of his coma forcefully.

Screw that. Just respect her body! 😈