Wonderwoman Vs. Silver Surfer

Originally posted by Priest
Of cource not superman >Surfer in phycial strength...ill be the first to admit that.

he maybe stronger, but surfer has more overall power.
Superman can't one shot a planet, Surfer can using PC, get it?

I dont see Diana landing blows on surfer if he has his sheilds up.

Surfer bloodlusted has way more options in taking Diana out. he can phase and attack her using TP.

They wont help her if she's getiing mind raped.

True, u may have point there, but still surfer still has more options of attack on his side. Frankey i cant think of one way Diana can take a win from a bloodlusted surfer thats fighting sdmart, and to the best of his abilites.

Mind rape Diana? You do know she is completely invulnerable to this type of attack right? Coupled with that she has the Tiara, and all the blessings/enchantments from the highfathers.

SS can phase all he wants, Diana with the sandals of Hermes has instant dimensional travel, as well as instant teliportation, the fact is that with these sandal she surpasses SS in speed and mobility.

Your right, while she is momentarily shielding she wont be able to attack SS, but is she going to be shielding 24/7 ? No she wont.

It is like a boxing match, Diana will shield so she doesnt get hit, with her reaction speeds (able to react to Zoom who is faster then SS) will be able to block SS, then she attacks.

SS unlike WW does not have an invulnerbility shield.

WW does have the means to slay and kill SS, first off SS has been KO'ed by melee many times in the past, such as Thor, Thanos, Dracula, etc.

WW with the sandals of Hermes can consistently stay close to SS regardless of how fast he is moving, with the gaunts which magnify her strength by ten fold, she could KO him easily.

Now add in that she has the sword, which effortlessly hurts and can slay skyfather level beings and beyond, SS can die.

Originally posted by Stupid Rookie
I didn't mean that he would have some sort of pre-cog. I did however mean that he would be able to determine where she was at all times. The addition of Sandals changes things, and makes it harder to detemine how things will end up.

All together this ended up being an interesting debate, good thread, sorry if I was rude earlier. I have to head out.

Stupid Rookie I respect you, now more so then I have ever before, because you unlike so many others, was able to see more then the common "SS wins 10/10".

That and you had an open mind to be able to see and understand what I was saying, you have earned my respect.

And I agree, its a toss up between SS and Diana, I just feel that with all the items she has, she completely outclasses him, now if she didnt have these items? I agree she would lose.

Originally posted by Board Walker
Mind rape Diana? You do know she is completely invulnerable to this type of attack right? Coupled with that she has the Tiara, and all the blessings/enchantments from the highfathers.

SS can phase all he wants, Diana with the sandals of Hermes has instant dimensional travel, as well as instant teliportation, the fact is that with these sandal she surpasses SS in speed and mobility.

Your right, while she is momentarily shielding she wont be able to attack SS, but is she going to be shielding 24/7 ? No she wont.

It is like a boxing match, Diana will shield so she doesnt get hit, with her reaction speeds (able to react to Zoom who is faster then SS) will be able to block SS, then she attacks.

SS unlike WW does not have an invulnerbility shield.

WW does have the means to slay and kill SS, first off SS has been KO'ed by melee many times in the past, such as Thor, Thanos, Dracula, etc.

WW with the sandals of Hermes can consistently stay close to SS regardless of how fast he is moving, with the gaunts which magnify her strength by ten fold, she could KO him easily.

Now add in that she has the sword, which effortlessly hurts and can slay skyfather level beings and beyond, SS can die.

So she is:

Invulnerable
Near Flash in speed
Can kill beings above skyfather
Travel through dimensions at will
Can't be touched by TP

What (in your opinion) can take her out?

Originally posted by Board Walker
Stupid Rookie I respect you, now more so then I have ever before, because you unlike so many others, was able to see more then the common "SS wins 10/10".

That and you had an open mind to be able to see and understand what I was saying, you have earned my respect.

And I agree, its a toss up between SS and Diana, I just feel that with all the items she has, she completely outclasses him, now if she didnt have these items? I agree she would lose.

Yeah I am glad we had this debate, Hopefully you don't think I am a fanboy anymore...

Also, I don't know if you saw my post earlier, but if the fight was on Earth I would have prob given WW a majority.

Have a good one.

Originally posted by Stupid Rookie
Yeah I am glad we had this debate, Hopefully you don't think I am a fanboy anymore...

Also, I don't know if you saw my post earlier, but if the fight was on Earth I would have prob given WW a majority.

Have a good one.

I don't think your a fanboy, I think you an intelligent and open minded debater, have a good night.

Originally posted by Symmetric Chaos
So she is:

Invulnerable
Near Flash in speed
Can kill beings above skyfather
Travel through dimensions at will
Can't be touched by TP

What (in your opinion) can take her out?

The point of this thread was to show that SS does not > all.

She has never at any points in comics had all her items at once, which is why she is so powerful in this thread, all her items are forged and enchanted by Skyfather level beings, as well beings even beyond that level.

Originally posted by Board Walker
The point of this thread was to show that SS does not > all.

She has never at any points in comics had all her items at once, which is why she is so powerful in this thread, all her items are forged and enchanted by Skyfather level beings, as well beings even beyond that level.

I see.

Do you mind if I make a thread to test how powerful people think she would be with all her equipment?

Originally posted by Symmetric Chaos
I see.

Do you mind if I make a thread to test how powerful people think she would be with all her equipment?

Sure, I think what you are going to find is similar to this thread, her being underestimated.

Which I think stems from the fact that not many know about DC comics as much as they do about Marvel; which I don't blame anyone for, I enjoy marvel comics much more then DC.

SS is taking this 10/10 he just is .FOL.

Originally posted by Board Walker
The point of this thread was to show that SS does not > all.

She has never at any points in comics had all her items at once, which is why she is so powerful in this thread, all her items are forged and enchanted by Skyfather level beings, as well beings even beyond that level.

i had a supprise orthodonist appointment and missed a big chunk of this thread 🙁

anyways

ill admit, and actually lately i have been reading alot more DC & WW (and i do like her now)

with that said, i still dont think she would take a majority here, and infact i could see her dimensional travel as being a hinderance (second delays between dimensional shifting could acutally cuase a prblem seeing how fast surfer can potentially travel.. very hypotethical though) anyways, im a bit overwhelmed with thread material and im sorry this post is a bit vauge. lol

is this still being debated?

Originally posted by ExtraMision5555
i had a supprise orthodonist appointment and missed a big chunk of this thread 🙁

anyways

ill admit, and actually lately i have been reading alot more DC & WW (and i do like her now)

with that said, i still dont think she would take a majority here, and infact i could see her dimensional travel as being a hinderance (second delays between dimensional shifting could acutally cuase a prblem seeing how fast surfer can potentially travel.. very hypotethical though) anyways, im a bit overwhelmed with thread material and im sorry this post is a bit vauge. lol

The dimensional travel wouldn't hinder her at all, she does it effortlessly, besides SS can dimensional travel no where near as fast as WW. SS needs to build up speed to do it, and can only do it in a straight line, WW does as simply as willing it.

Secondly, she also has instant teliportation with the sandals, with her reaction and reflex speed, she is faster then SS.

What it comes down to is that Instant Teliportation>Any ammount of speed times the speed of light.

She could constantly stay in his face with the use of the sandals, and with that said she could kill him with the sword, or KO him with her first (the gauntlets magnify the wearers strength by ten fold, and when both are used its 100 I believe)

And finally, regardless of SS attacks, when ever she is going to be hit, she just crosses her bracelets to block it, then uncrosses to attack; honestly she moves and reacts so fast its to the point where its not going to cost her any time what so ever.

She can keep all the distance between her and SS that she wants, or she can stay in his face all she wants.

The golden armor and the girdle make her durability top tier.

Originally posted by Board Walker
The dimensional travel wouldn't hinder her at all, she does it effortlessly, besides SS can dimensional travel no where near as fast as WW. SS needs to build up speed to do it, and can only do it in a straight line, WW does as simply as willing it.

Secondly, she also has instant teliportation with the sandals, with her reaction and reflex speed, she is faster then SS.

What it comes down to is that Instant Teliportation>Any ammount of speed times the speed of light.

She could constantly stay in his face with the use of the sandals, and with that said she could kill him with the sword, or KO him with her first (the gauntlets magnify the wearers strength by ten fold, and when both are used its 100 I believe)

And finally, regardless of SS attacks, when ever she is going to be hit, she just crosses her bracelets to block it, then uncrosses to attack; honestly she moves and reacts so fast its to the point where its not going to cost her any time what so ever.

She can keep all the distance between her and SS that she wants, or she can stay in his face all she wants.

The golden armor and the girdle make her durability top tier.

Honestly, i have nothing to say in surfers defense right now
i can see with the items given why this scneario is possible

ill admit my knoweldge of thosei tems is basicly obselete too, though

anyways,

ive been using honsetly too much

Lol

nayynaywas.. with the items given here, perhaps this is waht would happen

untill someone more knoweldgeable says otherwise, i cant argue with that

btw

what i was saying about the dimensional thing
i was talking about the time it actually takes her body to materialize

wether or not that itself is at light speed as well or "normal" (although still extremely quick in human terms) speed, becuase if it was the latter, that could cause a problem

Originally posted by ExtraMision5555
Honestly, i have nothing to say in surfers defense right now
i can see with the items given why this scneario is possible

ill admit my knoweldge of thosei tems is basicly obselete too, though

anyways,

ive been using honsetly too much

Lol

nayynaywas.. with the items given here, perhaps this is waht would happen

untill someone more knoweldgeable says otherwise, i cant argue with that

btw

what i was saying about the dimensional thing
i was talking about the time it actually takes her body to materialize

wether or not that itself is at light speed as well or "normal" (although still extremely quick in human terms) speed, becuase if it was the latter, that could cause a problem

Really isn't fair to consider her human, when really she is goddess by all means.

Secondly, the way the dimension moving works, is that she sort of just crossed over, it was like crossing over a line to really simplify it.

Firstly.......WW is not immune to tp.

She was hopeful in dealing with Max Lord that since she sees the truth, it'd be enough. Its not an absolute immunity, seen in the Terror Incognita JLA issue, where MM mindwiped the entire big seven with minimal effort.

Superman, Diana, Green Lantern, Batman, Flash, Plasticman and perhaps Drippy.

She's not immune to tp.

She's not nearly as durable as the Surfer. He flies through suns to get clean!
He's faster than Diana.

And the Flash nuke feat you keep touting? Its only near lightspeed. Authors words>>> Nerdtastic formulas.

Same thing with Superman. Alot of his highest speed feats are touted as near lightspeed by the writers, since anything past that is theoretically time travel.

WW is a brick with a magic lasso.
With all this gear, she might win.

But the fact that you had to give her all this extra stuff, tells us that at the root, you know full well that Surfer>>>>>Wonderwoman.

Originally posted by UniOmni
Firstly.......WW is not immune to tp.

She was hopeful in dealing with Max Lord that since she sees the truth, it'd be enough. Its not an absolute immunity, seen in the Terror Incognita JLA issue, where MM mindwiped the entire big seven with minimal effort.

Superman, Diana, Green Lantern, Batman, Flash, Plasticman and perhaps Drippy.

She's not immune to tp.

She's not nearly as durable as the Surfer. He flies through suns to get clean!
He's faster than Diana.

And the Flash nuke feat you keep touting? Its only near lightspeed. Authors words>>> Nerdtastic formulas.

Same thing with Superman. Alot of his highest speed feats are touted as near lightspeed by the writers, since anything past that is theoretically time travel.

WW is a brick with a magic lasso.
With all this gear, she might win.

But the fact that you had to give her all this extra stuff, tells us that at the root, you know full well that Surfer>>>>>Wonderwoman.

Uni if were going purely by the comics word over on panel showings then Surfer is much lower in durability then he actually is, narrators word > formulas? Then SS was almost killed by storms lightning.

Secondly, the proof shows that Flash travelled 890 trillion times the speed of light.

And thirdly with the items she has been given she out classes SS in speed, mobility, strength, and durability.

P.S. I alreayd admited that without the items she would lose.

Surfer flying through stars, taking enraged Hulks blows to no visible damage, and numerous other things make his durability high end.

And he was somewhat hurt by lightning.

But Wonderwoman looked like hell after she was shot in the face.

DC tends to try to quantify the feats, and end up limiting themselves.

Call me when WW crosses a lightyear under a second.
That right there is bare bones. He crosses a light year in a second.

No misunderstanding that, as well as the Flash near lightspeed feat with the nuke.
The writers have the final authority, no matter if you don't like it.

Originally posted by Board Walker
She has all her weapons, items, and gear, she also has access to the godwave, she just has to use it if she wants.

She is at full power, and both are blood lusted.

Originally posted by UniOmni
Surfer flying through stars, taking enraged Hulks blows to no visible damage, and numerous other things make his durability high end.

And he was somewhat hurt by lightning.

But Wonderwoman looked like hell after she was shot in the face.

DC tends to try to quantify the feats, and end up limiting themselves.

Call me when WW crosses a lightyear under a second.
That right there is bare bones. He crosses a light year in a second.

No misunderstanding that, as well as the Flash near lightspeed feat with the nuke.
The writers have the final authority, no matter if you don't like it.

I suppose your right, the writters has the final authority, in that case magic knives can kill SS, bricks thrown by magic people can KO SS, and of course lightning can nearly kill SS, after all it was in the narration.

Secondly, thanks for mentioning WW's low durability showings, why not show her showings of taking mountains to the face? Oh she doesnt have the durability? She has taken the combined energy blast of the skyfathers of DC and completely shielded it effortlessly.

Yes her base line durability is not as high as SS, but with the items I gave her, she has skyfather level durability, espicially from the girdle and the golden armor.

Speed she also outclasses him here, she can instantly teliport to where she wills with the sandals.

Instant teliportation+reactions being able to respond to Zoom> any speed times the speed of light.

Ummm Board Walk, you give no information on how she could possibly beat Silver Surfer, and you don't even seem to know much about Wonder Woman yourself.

Don't you find it strange every single person in this thread says Diana loses, yet we are the misinformed ones?