Wonderwoman Vs. Silver Surfer

Started by Board Walker24 pages

Originally posted by xmarksthespot
I'm sure she can keep them crossed indefinitely, of course without the use of her hands that would make her an incredibly inefficient fighter. Nor is that the manner in which Diana normally fights.

It wasn't effortless. Again have you actually seen it?
The Sword of Hephaestus can slice the electrons off of an atom, but that's only relevant if it actually connects with something, and with her hands crossed she isn't swinging anything anyway.
That's a big assumption.

WW needs to breathe. Surfer can just take the fight to space where she eventually asphyxiates.

Ive seen her in space though, no other items, how does breathing make a factor here?

Well actually yes I have seen the scans of her when she blocks it, they were above in a circle like formation, and she below, and they fired downward towards her.

Yes their was dramatization added to it, but its the same as when they show SS or supes strugle with some thing just to add style to it for sales.

Besides no time seemed to pass as she dimensionaly traveled.

And how would you know that? There is no time frame on those scans. If anything, I say it took her a while considering it was a page of her floating through lightning, while 3 gods were conversing. I don't think they could have a conversation if it took no time.

But everything else I mentioned is true, from the bracelets being able to stay crossed indefinetly, as well as her being able to effortlessly shield from the combined power of the skyfathers.

Like previously said, you look at scans, misinterpret them, and then try to use them as evidence in a versus thread. She did NOT effortlessly shield herself from the combined power of the skyfathers, she can NOT keep her bracers crossed forever, and she can NOT teleport/dimension hop instantly

Originally posted by Board Walker

This thread shows how many uninformed members we have, that and how many blind fanboys we have, it reminds me of GS phoenix days.

ok i didn´t read all the thread so i could be wrong, but everybody in here thinks surfer takes this, your the only one saying diana will win, who do you think its the fanboy?

Originally posted by Loot
ok i didn´t read all the thread so i could be wrong, but everybody in here thinks surfer takes this, your the only one saying diana will win, who do you think its the fanboy?

Im not a WW fangirl, I just have a tendency to argue against what ever the current flavor of the year is.

From Dragonball Z, to Phoenix, to Silver Surfer; besides the threads became very dull when it comes down to every resposne being "(insert character of the year here) wins 10/10"

Originally posted by Board Walker
Ive seen her in space though, no other items, how does breathing make a factor here?
WW needs to breathe. Although I forgot the Eagle Armour can allow her life-support in space.
Originally posted by Board Walker
Well actually yes I have seen the scans of her when she blocks it, they were above in a circle like formation, and she below, and they fired downward towards her.

Yes their was dramatization added to it, but its the same as when they show SS or supes strugle with some thing just to add style to it for sales.

Speculation. She struggled because she struggled.

Flavor of the year? YOU used him in this thread, and put him up against someone he will NOT lose to. There is a difference between arguing against a character whose power base is exaggerated due to popularity, and arguing for someone who just cannot win ...along with evidence that is not true.

besides the threads became very dull when it comes down to every resposne being "(insert character of the year here) wins 10/10"

Everyone is saying "Surfer 10/10"...because surfer is going to win 10/10.
There are no dull responses, just dull threads.

Originally posted by Board Walker
Im not a WW fangirl, I just have a tendency to argue against what ever the current flavor of the year is.

From Dragonball Z, to Phoenix, to Silver Surfer; besides the threads became very dull when it comes down to every resposne being "(insert character of the year here) wins 10/10"

ok but in this case it is a 10/10 fight and you were exagerating in calling everybody a fanboy.

Originally posted by What If...
Flavor of the year? YOU used him in this thread, and put him up against someone he will NOT lose to. There is a difference between arguing against a character whose power base is exaggerated due to popularity, and arguing for someone who just cannot win ...along with evidence that is not true.

Exactly

Originally posted by Board Walker
Im not a WW fangirl, I just have a tendency to argue against what ever the current flavor of the year is.

From Dragonball Z, to Phoenix, to Silver Surfer; besides the threads became very dull when it comes down to every resposne being "(insert character of the year here) wins 10/10"

You've made blanket statements about everyone only saying Surfer wins because he's from Marvel, and that everyone is uninformed about DC, and about WW.

And then you've made claims of things she can do based on exaggeration, misinterpretation, or misinformation, and don't really appear to know a great deal about WW at all. And have just stated you're only arguing against Surfer because he's "flavor of the year," despite the irony that you made this thread and he does win it due to his speed and versatility.

Methinks I smell the pungent odor of hypocrisy.

As WW fan, I can wholeheartedly state that even with all her gear and whatnot, she'd lose....

A) She likely would have a very, very difficult time reacting to his attacks.

B) He's simply too powerful for WW to handle.

The only conceivable way she can win is with the Head of Medousa.

ok I must chime in on those people who know nothing about Diana. First off, The Guantlet of Atlas Grants the wearer ten times the strength AND ten times the stamina and invulnerability. As demonstrated when Artemis wore the Guantlet. Now If Diana Summons the God wave while wearing the Guantlet of Atlas, She will be able to withstand the Godwave for at least ten times the Length that she could without the Gauntlet. Also, Surfer won't be speed Blitzing Diana when her reaction times are ftl. Her Travel speed may not be near his but then again the wearer gave diana the Sandles of Hermes. She can travel so fast as to Dimension hop with those.

Seems as if People are severly underestimating Diana's weapons and powers. I haven't even given a complete list of what her powers and weapons can do and protect in conjunction each other. Medusa's head or a summoned Godwave while wearing the Sandles and Gauntlet for the win.

Originally posted by Draco69
As WW fan, I can wholeheartedly state that even with all her gear and whatnot, she'd lose....

A) She likely would have a very, very difficult time reacting to his attacks.

B) He's simply too powerful for WW to handle.

The only conceivable way she can win is with the Head of Medousa.

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Originally posted by Board Walker
Im not a WW fangirl, I just have a tendency to argue against what ever the current flavor of the year is.

From Dragonball Z, to Phoenix, to Silver Surfer; besides the threads became very dull when it comes down to every resposne being "(insert character of the year here) wins 10/10"

you seem to be making the assertion that wonder woman can win, then making flawed assumptions and taking things out of context to prove it.
This isn't a versus battle, it's "why I think wonder woman is awesome."

a lot of the things you've said so far have been made on bad assertions or faulty interpretation of things that you didn't understand, or didn't seem to actually read in context. We've already gone over the "teleportation" bit, the misinterpretation of using the aegis "effortlessly", and the strength and use of the godwave.

I'm also going to bring up the sword. Yes, it has cut superman. In kingdom come. (not canon.) Superman also has a SERIOUS magical weakness, and the sword is...guess what? magic. You can't use "cutting superman!" as an example that it will be effective against surfer.

Diana also got completely, utterly, and totally OWNED all over the planet by zoom. I have that issue. Zoom was abusing amazons all over the island, taunting her to her face after punching her across the planet and she was helpless to stop him. The ONLY reason he lost was because he PIS'ed himself into appearing where the lasso would be.

Surfer isn't a brawler and would never fight like one. If diana summoned the aegis, surfer could and would turn the atmosphere AROUND her into adamantium, pick it up, and BFR her into the sun.

Surfer can shrink himself down to subatomic size under his own power, then wreck her from the inside at light speeds before she even knew what happened to her.

Surfer flies through suns and blackholes without effort. Wonder woman can be injured by bullets.

both have low showings, but surfer's high end feats completely outclass what wonder woman is able to do, even WITH all her gear. Matter manipulation, energy projection, warp speed, time travel, TP...there's very little surfer has in terms of limits to his abilities. The only REAL limit surfer has is that he's a pacifist and rarely wants or TRIES to use the full limits of what he's capable of. In a bloodlust match, all bets are off.

What's to stop surfer from absorbing another sun, then unleashing it on WW? she'd be screwed instantly.

sorry kiddo..but the rest of the forum is right in asserting that wonder woman has no chance against him.

Originally posted by Space M ummy
you seem to be making the assertion that wonder woman can win, then making flawed assumptions and taking things out of context to prove it.
This isn't a versus battle, it's "why I think wonder woman is awesome."

a lot of the things you've said so far have been made on bad assertions or faulty interpretation of things that you didn't understand, or didn't seem to actually read in context. We've already gone over the "teleportation" bit, the misinterpretation of using the aegis "effortlessly", and the strength and use of the godwave.

I'm also going to bring up the sword. Yes, it has cut superman. In kingdom come. (not canon.) Superman also has a SERIOUS magical weakness, and the sword is...guess what? magic. You can't use "cutting superman!" as an example that it will be effective against surfer.

Diana also got completely, utterly, and totally OWNED all over the planet by zoom. I have that issue. Zoom was abusing amazons all over the island, taunting her to her face after punching her across the planet and she was helpless to stop him. The ONLY reason he lost was because he PIS'ed himself into appearing where the lasso would be.

Surfer isn't a brawler and would never fight like one. If diana summoned the aegis, surfer could and would turn the atmosphere AROUND her into adamantium, pick it up, and BFR her into the sun.

Surfer can shrink himself down to subatomic size under his own power, then wreck her from the inside at light speeds before she even knew what happened to her.

Surfer flies through suns and blackholes without effort. Wonder woman can be injured by bullets.

both have low showings, but surfer's high end feats completely outclass what wonder woman is able to do, even WITH all her gear. Matter manipulation, energy projection, warp speed, time travel, TP...there's very little surfer has in terms of limits to his abilities. The only REAL limit surfer has is that he's a pacifist and rarely wants or TRIES to use the full limits of what he's capable of. In a bloodlust match, all bets are off.

What's to stop surfer from absorbing another sun, then unleashing it on WW? she'd be screwed instantly.

sorry kiddo..but the rest of the forum is right in asserting that wonder woman has no chance against him.

Your Entire argument is debunked as you are arguing her being owned without consideration that WW has never used all of her items in conjunction with each other. How is Surfer going to hurt Diana if She's wearing The Indestructible Eagle armor and The Guantlet of Atlas? Your saying surfer absorbing a Sun is goign to screw diana wtf? WIth the armor, Guantlet and Bracelets? are you kidding me? Diana was punched in the face by the cosmic Being oblivion with no effect. (without any armor or shielding). Deflected a blast from the entire greek pantheon. It would stand to reason that with ALL of her weapons and the God wave, She could pull 4 or 5 out of ten against the surfer. She is a much better fighter. And people really think it takes time to call the god wave. Not at all. Time has no meaning to the Gods and I already posted a while ago in another thread that it was literally like a second real time before she got the God wave. Imagine Her wearing the Guantlet of Atlas and using the God wave, while having the sandles granting her superior Speed. Hell the Godwave can do that since it powers every being in the dcu. the surfer fanboyism is just tarded.

Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
Your Entire argument is debunked as you are arguing her being owned without consideration that WW has never used all of her items in conjunction with each other. How is Surfer going to hurt Diana if She's wearing The Indestructible Eagle armor and The Guantlet of Atlas? Your saying surfer absorbing a Sun is goign to screw diana wtf? WIth the armor, Guantlet and Bracelets? are you kidding me?

its about time you showed up

you left little ol' boardwarlker by her lonesome

Originally posted by ExtraMision5555
its about time you showed up

you left little ol' boardwarlker by her lonesome

Of course. It's pure simply fan boyism to even think Surfer can get 10/10 when she has so many Magical weapons at her disposal. Rediculousness at it's best. Surfer belongs to that rediculous marvel fanboy club of Thor/thanos/Preretconned beyonder and LT.

Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
Of course. It's pure simply fan boyism to even think Surfer can get 10/10 when she has so many Magical weapons at her disposal. Rediculousness at it's best. Surfer belongs to that rediculous marvel fanboy club of Thor/thanos/Preretconned beyonder and LT.

i agree, its not 10/10

wow my house smells crazy right now

anyways
yeah

but i duno enough about WW to voice my own opinion
so ill just continue reading 😄

Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
Of course. It's pure simply fan boyism to even think Surfer can get 10/10 when she has so many Magical weapons at her disposal. Rediculousness at it's best. Surfer belongs to that rediculous marvel fanboy club of Thor/thanos/Preretconned beyonder and LT.
Blah blah blablaah... blah blah. Cry me a bloody river. As WW fans go, I prefer Draco.

Originally posted by Space M ummy
you seem to be making the assertion that wonder woman can win, then making flawed assumptions and taking things out of context to prove it.
This isn't a versus battle, it's "why I think wonder woman is awesome."

a lot of the things you've said so far have been made on bad assertions or faulty interpretation of things that you didn't understand, or didn't seem to actually read in context. We've already gone over the "teleportation" bit, the misinterpretation of using the aegis "effortlessly", and the strength and use of the godwave.

ACTUALLY IT'S THE SAME GOD WAVE ARES HAD WHEN HE WAS GOING TO DESTROY THE DCU. NOTHING SUGGEST THAT IT CHANGED. SO WHEN AND WHERE EXACTLY DID "WE"GO OVER THE STRENGTH AND USE OF THE GODWAVE?

Originally posted by Space M ummy

I'm also going to bring up the sword. Yes, it has cut superman. In kingdom come. (not canon.) Superman also has a SERIOUS magical weakness, and the sword is...guess what? magic. You can't use "cutting superman!" as an example that it will be effective against surfer.

AGAIN YOUR WRONG. KINGDOM COME IS CANNON. GO READ COMICS. AS OF THE KINGDOM, IC, AND JUSTICE SOCIETY, THE KINGDOM IS CANNON. SURFER ALSO HAS A WEAKNESS AGAIN MAGIC IF YOU DIDN'T KNOW.

Originally posted by Space M ummy

Diana also got completely, utterly, and totally OWNED all over the planet by zoom. I have that issue. Zoom was abusing amazons all over the island, taunting her to her face after punching her across the planet and she was helpless to stop him. The ONLY reason he lost was because he PIS'ed himself into appearing where the lasso would be.

THIS EXAMPLE HAS NO BEARING UPON ANYTHING SINCE DIANA DIDN'T HAVE ALL THE POWERS AND WEAPONS LISTED IN THE OP. BAD EXAMPLE. TRY AGAIN.

Originally posted by Space M ummy

Surfer isn't a brawler and would never fight like one. If diana summoned the aegis, surfer could and would turn the atmosphere AROUND her into adamantium, pick it up, and BFR her into the sun.

WHAT THE HELL IS TURNING THE AIR INTO ADAMANTIUM GOING TO DO WHEN SOMEONE CAN TELEPORT OUT OF THE ADAMANTIUM CAGE. TRY AGAIN. BAD EXAMPLE.

Originally posted by Space M ummy

Surfer can shrink himself down to subatomic size under his own power, then wreck her from the inside at light speeds before she even knew what happened to her.

SHOW ME A SCAN OF SURFER SHRINKING HIMSELF.

Originally posted by Space M ummy

Surfer flies through suns and blackholes without effort. Wonder woman can be injured by bullets.

WW CANNOT BE INJURED BY BULLETS WITH THE BATTLE ARMOR ON, THE GUANTLET OF ATLAS, ANOTHER HORRIBLY BAD COMPARISON.

Originally posted by Space M ummy

both have low showings, but surfer's high end feats completely outclass what wonder woman is able to do, even WITH all her gear. Matter manipulation, energy projection, warp speed, time travel, TP...there's very little surfer has in terms of limits to his abilities. The only REAL limit surfer has is that he's a pacifist and rarely wants or TRIES to use the full limits of what he's capable of. In a bloodlust match, all bets are off.

What's to stop surfer from absorbing another sun, then unleashing it on WW? she'd be screwed instantly.

sorry kiddo..but the rest of the forum is right in asserting that wonder woman has no chance against him.

SORRY KIDDO, THE FORUM IS BIASED AND DIDN'T USE ONE IOTA OF LOGIC AT ALL IN EVEN THINKING THIS BATTLE THRU. ALL OF HER WEAPONS AND POWERS MAKES HER PRETTY TUFF TO BEAT FOR ANYONE WHO ISN'T A SKY FATHER. HELL GOG WAS SKY FATHER AN HER SWORD CUT THE SHIT OUT OF HIM. AND HE HAS NO WEAKNESS TO MAGIC.

I say WW wins this. With all the equipment plus the GW, I can't see Surfer or any other character below skyfather level really taking a majority against her.

Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl

im a bit confused, was that supposed to be not in 1 quote but seperated quotes?