Islam Questions

Originally posted by leonheartmm
dude u live in an ignorant world. today my mother, forcing me to say outloud what my true beliefs were told me that she was ASHAMED of having had me as a child, that shed take it back infront of allah if she cud go back in time. she told me that there was no place in here heart, her house, or her contry{pakistan} for heathens such as me and i shud leave as soon as possible. furthermore she added quite amusingly and sadistically that people here would bash my head in rightfully if they knew i was anti islamic and that there was no connection between us blood or otherwise aslong as i didnt have the most fundamental belief in islam and god. and guess what she told me that she was actually rather happy with the two bunch of gangster's that beat me up pretty badly a while ago saying, they might not have good wordly actions but atleast allah is close to their hearts{and the reason the beat me and gave me pretty bad concussions and wounds was only cause i was a KAFIR} . u dont accept the practical HUMAN side of islam or if it is explained by kali or more importantly lil, bitchness. take it form people that go trough it. ur the one whose mistaken pal!!!!!!!!!!!!!! muslims are for the most part right now, one of the stupidest and most idiotic nations on earth.{REGUARDLESS of islam being the cause or facilitater/encourager/allower} and islam has a lot to do with it.

Muslims are not a nation.

lil b provide all the evidence that quran promotes violence and i will answer each and every verse you post

Originally posted by muslimscholar
lil b provide all the evidence that quran promotes violence and i will answer each and every verse you post

Just take the posts of the quran already posted and that you quoted.

actualy both islam/the prophet and muslims themselves do and are proud to call themselves a nation. thas another difference between islam, the overwhelming majority of its followers do agree that its not just a PERSONAL choice but a moral/political/social duty to follow the TRUTH, islam, they are as much psychologically coerced as any patriotic nation{reguardless of practical real life situations} in their HEARTS islam is a nation. the nation of righteous, not a mere form of SPIRITUALITY, but practicality.

Originally posted by leonheartmm
dude u live in an ignorant world. today my mother, forcing me to say outloud what my true beliefs were told me that she was ASHAMED of having had me as a child, that shed take it back infront of allah if she cud go back in time. she told me that there was no place in here heart, her house, or her contry{pakistan} for heathens such as me and i shud leave as soon as possible. furthermore she added quite amusingly and sadistically that people here would bash my head in rightfully if they knew i was anti islamic and that there was no connection between us blood or otherwise aslong as i didnt have the most fundamental belief in islam and god. and guess what she told me that she was actually rather happy with the two bunch of gangster's that beat me up pretty badly a while ago saying, they might not have good wordly actions but atleast allah is close to their hearts{and the reason the beat me and gave me pretty bad concussions and wounds was only cause i was a KAFIR} . u dont accept the practical HUMAN side of islam or if it is explained by kali or more importantly lil, bitchness. take it form people that go trough it. ur the one whose mistaken pal!!!!!!!!!!!!!! muslims are for the most part right now, one of the stupidest and most idiotic nations on earth.{REGUARDLESS of islam being the cause or facilitater/encourager/allower} and islam has a lot to do with it.

I just don't know how to tolerate such an intolerant religion.... 🙁

Originally posted by Bardock42
Muslims are not a nation.

Certain Muslim groups and Muslims call themselves the ''Nation of Muhammad''. Furthermore, in places such as Bosnia, Muslims in region call themselves ''Muslims by nationality''.

The phrase(s) might be all wrong, but its not an unfamiliar phenomenon and has been used among Muslims.

Originally posted by Bardock42
Muslims are not a nation.

I think he was being metaphorical anyway. 😐

Originally posted by lil bitchiness
Certain Muslim groups and Muslims call themselves the ''Nation of Muhammad''. Furthermore, in places such as Bosnia, Muslims in region call themselves ''Muslims by nationality''.

The phrase(s) might be all wrong, but its not an unfamiliar phenomenon and has been used among Muslims.

And its totally wrong...so there's no point.

I am telling you what the Muslims refer themselves as. Just like JIA seems to think he can claim Muslims cannot possibly worship the same deity because of Bible, you make the claim that they cannot call themselves a nation.

If they want to be a nation, then they should be. As long as noone is harmed. And calling themselves a Nation of Muhammad does not harm anybody.

It really doesn't matter.

''Islamophobia'' is also incorrcest term, but it is still overwhelmingly used.

Who? Muslims I know do not reffer to themselves as a "nation." Who are Muslims? because clearly your sweeping generalizations do not accurately protray the facts.

ANd what is meant by nation? Clearly it is not a political nation, because major political divisions exist within majority Muslim areas of the world...what dignificance does this have?

What is the difference between ISLAMICISTS, who call for a nation based on the Muslim faith, and Muslims, who are a very diverse group of people only superficially unified by their religion.

are all nations political, they simply have to be groups large enough and have sumthin in common which is strong enough in certain situation to coerce them on a certain high level. muslims {most of them} consider themselves part of a nation for reasons i have explained. the PRACTICAL difficulties of pulling them alll together are another thing. but dont forget at one time in history, the islamic empire was whole and dwarfed everything else, yet it still had division, wudnt u consider that as a nation. ideologically most muslims continue the trend.

Originally posted by leonheartmm
are all nations political, they simply have to be groups large enough and have sumthin in common which is strong enough in certain situation to coerce them on a certain high level. muslims {most of them} consider themselves part of a nation for reasons i have explained. the PRACTICAL difficulties of pulling them alll together are another thing. but dont forget at one time in history, the islamic empire was whole and dwarfed everything else, yet it still had division, wudnt u consider that as a nation. ideologically most muslims continue the trend.

..........All nations are political, or territorial, or ethnic.

1. a large body of people, associated with a particular territory, that is sufficiently conscious of its unity to seek or to possess a government peculiarly its own: The president spoke to the nation about the new tax.
2. the territory or country itself: the nations of Central America.
3. a member tribe of an American Indian confederation.
4. an aggregation of persons of the same ethnic family, often speaking the same language or cognate languages.

Muslims do not have association with a particular territory. (As in, they don't all live in, let's say, Saudi Arabia).

They are not a territory.

They are not an American Indian Confederation.

They are not of the same ethnic family.

They are not a nation.

u obviously have never been to mecca on the yearly pilgrimage.

You obviously have never been to an English lesson.

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Originally posted by lord xyz
You obviously have never been to an English lesson.

I'd like to see your smart mouth speak Urdu as well his speaks English.

When you can't do it after five years...let me know.

Originally posted by Quiero Mota
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Originally posted by lord xyz
You obviously have never been to an English lesson.

Leon has better things to do with his time than worry about going the extra mile in language.

Your emphasis on "proper English" is a direct result of you lack of knowledge concerning semantics. A deeper understanding of the said semantics would reveal to you that unless the "errors" made in English change the meaning of the phrase as understood by readers or listeners, the aforesaid errors are irrelevant.

^awww u guys {teary eyed} . lol.

Originally posted by leonheartmm
^awww u guys {teary eyed} . lol.

I dish out compliments partially so I can call you an idiot later but mostly bacause I can call XYZ an idiot now!

Originally posted by lil bitchiness
I am telling you what the Muslims refer themselves as. Just like JIA seems to think he can claim Muslims cannot possibly worship the same deity because of Bible, you make the claim that they cannot call themselves a nation.

If they want to be a nation, then they should be. As long as noone is harmed. And calling themselves a Nation of Muhammad does not harm anybody.

It really doesn't matter.

''Islamophobia'' is also incorrcest term, but it is still overwhelmingly used.

Originally posted by Alfheim
I think he was being metaphorical anyway. 😐