Originally posted by BlueDMighty
So, what your saying is, Black people were right all along.We really are "Guilty until proven Innocent."
Not at all. As far as the law in concerned, we ARE innocent till proven guilty.
But, I don't care if you get away with a crime or not. If you COMMIT it, you're guilty. In the eyes of the law you might have a spotless record, but realistically, you're guilty, even if you were found innocent.
Understand?
Originally posted by BlueDMighty
So, what your saying is, Black people were right all along.We really are "Guilty until proven Innocent."
Um. No. They're guilty when they're proven to be guilty. Not before. This isn't 1946, honey...
Originally posted by BlueDMighty
Like I said before, I've got some issues with Hudlin's Storm. But the future does look bright. In my opinion, I'm glad to see her in an
environment that may allow some growth for her character.
Oh please. Hudlin's Storm is terrible. She's completely changed to an near inrecognizable woman.
Originally posted by BlueDMighty
I wanted people to print out the entire thread and allow one of their black friends to read it and then as they're opinion.
Oh please. Don't play the "I'm the only voice of black race" card. There's at least six different black people on this thread that decry Hudlin's racism.
Including ME...
Originally posted by BlueDMighty
Simply put allot of attitudes (not JUST the Hudlin supporters) in this thread are, at their root, race related.
Take your own advice. You're supporting Hudlin's racism because just of the sake of your racial identity.
This is a common stupid identity in the black community:
"We gonna support the black 'agenda' of this issue even if it's wrong"
I've seen dozens of times. You're not defending it for any other reason BUT the case of race.
Originally posted by BlueDMighty
there were several remarks besides the Doom quote that were rooted in the fact that Hudlin runs BET and something to do with House Party (one of the funniest movies ever). It was also only a matter of time before somebody brought up OJ.
House Party is a terrible movie. You think it's a great movie.
You've just lost every crumble of credibility...
😐
Hudlin is no different from a white supremicist. He's advocating the superiority of one race over another. By judging one race to morally deviant and another to be noble and justified.
He's a racist.
You're making one of two absurd claims:
Hudlin ISN'T racist. Everyone else is and Hudlin is just "keeping it real"....
Hudlin IS racist...but so what? Black people are entitled to be racist because they've suffered racism.
Either one is incredibly stupid....
Originally posted by BlueDMighty
Says the Definity on what BlueDMighty, and the rest of the people around him, likes
Yes, we know.
Again with this group mentality you hold. You group your "brothas" into your own racial identity and you only hold one race's opinions to be valid.
You're no different from a white racist. You've stated that you don't interact with black people and you only interact with your own race.
If a white person were to say the same thing, he would be decried as a racist.
But if a black person said the same thing, he's, what, entitled to do so?
Originally posted by SoljerAgreed. Oj's mother knows he did it. I remember I had this conversation with my father ( He has kinda a reverse racism thing going). He fully supported OJ's innocence but felt Robert Blake was guilty. Of course the average person knows both of them did it.
Not at all. As far as the law in concerned, we ARE innocent till proven guilty.But, I don't care if you get away with a crime or not. If you COMMIT it, you're guilty. In the eyes of the law you might have a spotless record, but realistically, you're guilty, even if you were found innocent.
Understand?
Originally posted by BlueDMighty
I was wrong about the several. But, I was right about him being a second rate Batman.My point is, every new character has the potential for greatness. That being said, is there a rule that says a black person can't be #1. I mean if the story is good and the art is good you'd buy it right?
I don't read Blade, but the fan's seem to like the book (based on some posts I've read). But, I loved the 1st 2 movies.
I was talking about the "feeling", and yer right, I am irate.
As for the Doom reference, personally, I don't think it a far leap to have him say the line. (Making a "racist" statement does not make him a racist. It makes him an "Ass".)(can we agree that Doom can, in fact, be an "Ass?"😉
Fair. (I heard about what happened to "Gert" that's how i know about Alex 's dad)
Overcompensation ? Maybe. But as a black guy, the only time I interact with white people is at work. My world is black. So I can relate to the lack-of, character references of the White characters in the Black Panther books, that's my world. That's the writer's world.
The reverse, I'm sure, could be said for alot of people. Including the Writers and Artists, and that's my understanding as to why there aren't better super heroes that happen to be Black.
Considering that Lex Luthor and Batman have wayyy more history and are wayyy more popular that Terrific it has nothing to do with race. Lex Luthor has wayyy more feats going for him as does Batsie. Doom may be a egomaniac, and a megalomaniac and a evil bastard but he's far too intellectual to say such a remark that he said in BP. For God's sake he's the second smartest person on the planet. He's smarter than BP he has his own nation. He a gypsie meaning that ancestrally he's partially from india. That comment came out of nowhere.
Originally posted by Draco69
Um. No. They're guilty when they're proven to be guilty. Not before. This isn't 1946, honey...Oh please. Hudlin's Storm is terrible. She's completely changed to an near inrecognizable woman.
Oh please. Don't play the "I'm the only voice of black race" card. There's at least six different black people on this thread that decry Hudlin's racism.
Including ME...
Take your own advice. You're supporting Hudlin's racism because just of the sake of your racial identity.
This is a common stupid identity in the black community:
"We gonna support the black 'agenda' of this issue even if it's wrong"
I've seen dozens of times. You're not defending it for any other reason BUT the case of race.
House Party is a terrible movie. You think it's a great movie.
You've just lost every crumble of credibility...
😐
Hudlin is no different from a white supremicist. He's advocating the superiority of one race over another. By judging one race to morally deviant and another to be noble and justified.
He's a racist.
You're making one of two absurd claims:
Hudlin ISN'T racist. Everyone else is and Hudlin is just "keeping it real"....
Hudlin IS racist...but so what? Black people are entitled to be racist because they've suffered racism.
Either one is incredibly stupid....
Oh my, Draco just beat BlueDMighty worse than Kunta Kinte. 😑
And Doom's the smartest man on the planet, not second IMO.
Hudlin's bad.
Claremont's worse, with his Pyslocke obsession and he's worse than Joss Whedon when it comes to always having to have female leads (in his case Storm or Pyslocke). Atleast Joss is a good writer overall, Chris used to be. He's tripe now though 😬
Originally posted by CasanoVa
Claremont's worse, with his Pyslocke obsession and he's worse than Joss Whedon when it comes to always having to have female leads (in his case Storm or Pyslocke). Atleast Joss is a good writer overall, Chris used to be. He's tripe now though 😬
What's even more ridiculous is that he was able to contradict himself in the same arc/comic. 😐
Oh and his attempts at explaining the science behind Psylockes powers are just sad and annoying.
Originally posted by CasanoVa
Oh my, Draco just beat BlueDMighty worse than Kunta Kinte. 😑And Doom's the smartest man on the planet, not second IMO.
Hudlin's bad.
Claremont's worse, with his Pyslocke obsession and he's worse than Joss Whedon when it comes to always having to have female leads (in his case Storm or Pyslocke). Atleast Joss is a good writer overall, Chris used to be. He's tripe now though 😬
No. Doom's been beat by Reed intellectually enough times to show his superiority in intellect.
Originally posted by Soljer
Not at all. As far as the law in concerned, we ARE innocent till proven guilty.But, I don't care if you get away with a crime or not. If you COMMIT it, you're guilty. In the eyes of the law you might have a spotless record, but realistically, you're guilty, even if you were found innocent.
Understand?
I understand, but do you understand? Who are the servants of the law if not people? People can be "Flawed". That's why we have a "System".
But, let's look at this in contrast.
Oj Simpson, and Micheal Jackson are the only 2 Black people (that I know of) where the system worked in their favor.
However, today there remains an impressive amount of Black men in prison that happen to be "Innocent" but were found Guilty of terrible crimes. There are plenty of real life stories available via the web ("Black Panther Party" on google video for a FEW examples. Or just watch "Life", or "Green Mile" for fictional, yet accurate accounts.)
Originally posted by Superherovandal
No. Doom's been beat by Reed intellectually enough times to show his superiority in intellect.
No, Doom's arrogance is the only thing that holds him back, if he wasn't as arrogant as he was he would be easily Reed's intellectual better. Yet he lets his grudge against the FF stop him from letting that magnificent brain of his advance.
And yeah, let's see Reed try and become the #2 sorcerer in the world 😛
Originally posted by BlueDMighty
I understand, but do you understand? Who are the servants of the law if not people? People can be "Flawed". That's why we have a "System".But, let's look at this in contrast.
Oj Simpson, and Micheal Jackson are the only 2 Black people (that I know of) where the system worked in their favor.However, today there remains an impressive amount of Black men in prison that happen to be "Innocent" but were found Guilty of terrible crimes. There are plenty of real life stories available via the web ("Black Panther Party" on google video for a FEW examples. Or just watch "Life", or "Green Mile" for fictional, yet accurate accounts.)
Originally posted by ExodusCloak
What's even more ridiculous is that he was able to contradict himself in the same arc/comic. 😐Oh and his attempts at explaining the science behind Psylockes powers are just sad and annoying.
Check it out:
http://img411.imageshack.us/my.php?image=exiles0932007teamdcp02wb3.jpg
He's the one who invented Psylockes lack of fine control over her TK in his UXM run and for some reason she's now able to rearrange her structure on a molecular level...why the hell didn't he just have her shunt away light like the way Sues power works.
Oh and I've noticed that he has become really bad when it comes to characters interacting with each other. And don't get me started on his fetishes.
Originally posted by CasanoVa
No, Doom's arrogance is the only thing that holds him back, if he wasn't as arrogant as he was he would be easily Reed's intellectual better. Yet he lets his grudge against the FF stop him from letting that magnificent brain of his advance.And yeah, let's see Reed try and become the #2 sorcerer in the world 😛
Originally posted by BlueDMighty
I understand, but do you understand? Who are the servants of the law if not people? People can be "Flawed". That's why we have a "System".But, let's look at this in contrast.
Oj Simpson, and Micheal Jackson are the only 2 Black people (that I know of) where the system worked in their favor.However, today there remains an impressive amount of Black men in prison that happen to be "Innocent" but were found Guilty of terrible crimes. There are plenty of real life stories available via the web ("Black Panther Party" on google video for a FEW examples. Or just watch "Life", or "Green Mile" for fictional, yet accurate accounts.)
Michael Jackson is not white. He's pasty-faced zombie who looks like the bastard son of the Wizard of Oz Scarecow and Harle-Quinn....
MJ is in a racial ethnicity of his own making.
The system DIDN'T work for them. The reason they won was because they were RICH. They hired top lawyers.
The system was perversed to favor the rich. It wasn't a case of race as so much of CLASS.
And you're clearly making your intentions clear. Let's sum up this bullshit:
"We black folk have been wronged by the criminal justice court for years...so we're entitled to duck any murder charges we are in fact guilty of because White America owes us one".
Originally posted by Superherovandal
😘 So now your saying that blacks are just scapegoats when it comes to prison. There are plenty of people who are guilty that are found innocent from all races. Many other races have people that are innocent that are proven guilty. Its universal. So shut up with the whole blacks get the short end of the stick in the world.
Agreed.
People think that black people have the worst of the worst because they're black...WRONG!
Jews have suffered more sh** than any other race COMBINED. They've endured slavery, at least three separate attempts of genocide, banishment, and of course the daily dose of car bombs from a crazy suicide bomber.
And they don't ***** and moan as much, do they?
Originally posted by Superherovandal
Reed is Doom's superior. Its been proven enough. And the same could be said vice versa. if Reed willing to go as far as Doom would ethically speaking he'd have many more inventions. Sure Doom's arrogance holds him back but its not like Reed's personality is perfect.
Alot more perfect than Victor, who takes the time to actually indulge in the finer things in life rather then spend all his time in the lab (much like Reed does). He has to spend time ruling his country and warding off attacks.
If he had the free time Reed has and the desire to sit inside a lab for the entire day he would easily be Reed's better.
But this is based on alot of if's and but's, so yes as it stands Reed is his intellectual superior, but I think Victor has far more potential (him becoming the second best sorcerer kinda shows this, Reed wouldn't have a clue where to start with those things).
Exodus: Yeah I remember her destroying Sabertooth in the danger-room and then struggling to pick up the penny, so if she can now alter her molecular structure the old boy really has started to lose his memory a bit 😬, it wasn't even that long ago either.
