Originally posted by Beta Ray Howard
Yeah, because Thanos underestimating Champion doesn't really equate for his feelings toward an encounter with The Hulk.
Was it not thanos who made the comparison? Thanos who knows just about everything? how can thanos underestimate anyone? prep god thanos. um no. he made the comparison and then looked quite frightned to me of champion's blows. so it is my right to assume that he would be fearful of a fight with the hulk since HE IS THE ONE WHO MADE THE COMPARISON.
Originally posted by Beta Ray Howard
No kiddin. Rabid Poodle in Aisle 5.
Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
Was it not thanos who made the comparison? Thanos who knows just about everything? how can thanos underestimate anyone? prep god thanos. um no. he made the comparison and then looked quite frightned to me of champion's blows. so it is my right to assume that he would be fearful of a fight with the hulk since HE IS THE ONE WHO MADE THE COMPARISON.
Thanos, make a mistake? In a comic book? Naaaaaaaaaaw.
It's not really outside villainy to make a mistake. It's one of two times that he's lucky he had a plan B during Thanos Quest.
That still doesn't equate to his feelings toward Hulk though. If it were Hulk cracking the shields, that would make sense.
Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
well how many god damned times do i have to say I don't buy it. damn. stop trying to make me fit in a mold you want me to so that you can have fun and joke about it later with all your nerdy freinds. i'm sure you would just love for me to agree with draco to give you more ammunition. I don't. get over it.
Well, I'm glad you don't agree with Draco, because that would be bad.
Originally posted by Beta Ray Howard
Thanos, make a mistake? In a comic book? Naaaaaaaaaaw.It's not really outside villainy to make a mistake. It's one of two times that he's lucky he had a plan B during Thanos Quest.
That still doesn't equate to his feelings toward Hulk though. If it were Hulk cracking the shields, that would make sense.
and yet he is the one who made the statement. so for you to say i was lying when thanos clearly compared to the two is just shitty to me and makes me not like you. you act as if I pulled it out of thin air.
Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
and yet he is the one who made the statement. so for you to say i was lying when thanos clearly compared to the two is just shitty to me and makes me not like you. you act as if I pulled it out of thin air.
I see where you could come to that conclusion, but you still have to stretch things to equate it to fear. Judging by the character, the only thing he really fears is not getting Death's approval.
Originally posted by Beta Ray Howard
I see where you could come to that conclusion, but you still have to stretch things to equate it to fear. Judging by the character, the only thing he really fears is not getting Death's approval.
Take a good look at Thanos' face when Champion is about to crach those shields. That face is not anything but fear/surpise/gasp. It is reasonable for me to assume that this same fear is what he had in mind when he sought to avoid the hulk. Since then thanos has gotten upgrades but at the time, Thanos didnt want to fight the hulk. but the hulk has also had many more feats since then as well. NOt that I think The hulk could beat hulk in any circumstance.
Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
Take a good look at Thanos' face when Champion is about to crach those shields. That face is not anything but fear/surpise/gasp. It is reasonable for me to assume that this same fear is what he had in mind when he sought to avoid the hulk. Since then thanos has gotten upgrades but at the time, Thanos didnt want to fight the hulk. but the hulk has also had many more feats since then as well. NOt that I think The hulk could beat hulk in any circumstance.
He hasn't gotten an upgrade since then (at least not to my knowledge, though he did get an army) but I see where you're coming from.
I'd say more or less it's him thinking "HOLY SHIT!" as Champion does that.
Originally posted by Martian_mind
Who cares if he doesn't look happy?HE says he avoids Hulk,not that he fears him,If Thanos was Afraid of Hulk he'd have stated it as he was thinking,not talking so who would he be bragging or lying to?and can you produce the scan so i can see his face?
i don't even know what hulk does matter in this thread, but feel free to think Thanos really fears the hulk
I avoid Mike Tyson because i can't beat him or i would not avoid him, i would face him fast to solve my problem, if i avoid him it's because i can't solve my problem
Originally posted by Draco69Waitaminute. You're going to "weigh" in Thor's ability to be hurt by bullets....despite him surviving nearly anything that has come towards his path? Like a cobalt bomb exploding near his ankles?
It bears no weight whatsoever. Thor is bulletproof. You're going to accept that Thor ISN'T bulletproof because of one or two crappy showings of Thor NOT being bulletproof?
That's poor logic. We don't think like that. The majority of Thor's feats show that he's bulletproof and moreso. But you accept very lowend feats as acceptable?
Let me say this. Thor is hella durable as far as energy attacks and has decent durability for blunt attack. But has shown limited durability against sharp piercing like attacks (such as bullets and such). Don't get me wrong, Thor is bulletproof. But barely since it puts welts on him and thus he usually avoids them by either blocking or dodging them (Thor in the past). Armor piecing bullets might be a different story though.
DC comics carefully explains why Diana (Wonder Woman) has to block bullets and arrows yet can take punches from Superman. They say that she has good resistance to blunt force trauma but her weakness is that her skin can be pierced by very sharp objects such as bullets, arrows, etc.
Just remember, there are many types of durability in comics (such as energy, blunt, etc). And if one is durable to one type of attack not necessarly means that they are to another. Canonical specific feats on panel showing the durability against an attack, that is closely related or equal to the kind of attack in question, can only prove whether that character is durable to it.
Originally posted by FearOfBlood
Doomsday beat the real Darkseid. I never read he was an avatar.
IF it was indeed the Real DS, then Doomsday sucker attacked DS from behind. But even DS has said that he cannot know defeat on a physical lvl. And that his avatars can be defeated only if the being is vastly powerful. So it makes you wonder what is really going on.
Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
IF it was indeed the Real DS, then Doomsday sucker attacked DS from behind. But even DS has said that he cannot know defeat on a physical lvl. And that his avatars can be defeated only if the being is vastly powerful. So it makes you wonder what is really going on.
Taking the entire comic into account, and the previous retcons, it was probably writer intent for it to be the real Darkseid.
Writer intent does take precedent in that situation. Correct me if I'm wrong, but wasn't Henshaw taking over Apokalypse?
Originally posted by DevilGoblin
Omega Effect can't even beat Superman.
Well, the Original DS would own Doomsday without using his hands 😎. The DS in current continuity is just a parody of what he used to be. Superman might survive the OE if he is important to the SOURCE, which is most likely.
BTW the original DS used Alexander Luthor as his conduit to give the Anti-Monitor the "Death" blow. The Anti-Monitor tried to kill Superman-1 with his last "breath" but Superman punched him out of the existance. However, he would have died anyway. The only reason the Anti-Monitor survied that blast for some more seconds speaks only for his incredible power. That version of the DS is long gone, he was in fact on Galactus level back then, now he is just another "Trashmob".
Originally posted by Beta Ray Howard
Taking the entire comic into account, and the previous retcons, it was probably writer intent for it to be the real Darkseid.Writer intent does take precedent in that situation. Correct me if I'm wrong, but wasn't Henshaw taking over Apokalypse?
What's Apocalypse? I think you mean Apokalips. Henshaw was taking over Apokalips till the Omega effect stepped in. The only way to defeat Hunter/Prey Darksied was Entropy. Its that simple!! He would have kept coming back from anything else. Look at the Radiants power level, the explosion he and Supes survived etc.
Originally posted by Batman-Prime
Well, the Original DS would own Doomsday without using his hands 😎. The DS in current continuity is just a parody of what he used to be. Superman might survive the OE if he is important to the SOURCE, which is most likely.
This is essentially why most forums refer to Darkseid 2 different ways: Kirby Darkseid, and Modern Darkseid.
I know he didn't feel the effects of the crisis, but it seems that the writers didn't care.
Originally posted by Beta Ray Howard
This is essentially why most forums refer to Darkseid 2 different ways: Kirby Darkseid, and Modern Darkseid.I know he didn't feel the effects of the crisis, but it seems that the writers didn't care.
Actually it's been retconned that almost all appearances of Darkseid in the last twenty years have been Desaad posing as him. Marvel boards tend not to know this, more balanced boards do! Sadly most boards posters are made up of one company morons, usually "Marvel zombies" proud of their narrow mindedness and lack of knowledge of things external to the Marvel 616 universe. 😬