Originally posted by Nellinator
No they do not. In fact the beginning of Genesis 2 clarifies Genesis 1 as being the order when it says in verse 1 and 2:
"Thus the heavens and the earth were finished, and all the host of them. And on the sixth day (ie. the day man was created) God ended His work which He had made; and He rested on the seventh day from all His work which He had made."
I find it hard to believe that he could create it "all" in 7 days.
Originally posted by FistOfThe North
I think it's more sensible to believe that before the universe there was nothingness. Meaning nothing there. Not meaning an empty space. There was just nothing there, no space, no time, it was all taken up by God, perhaps. But note that there's a difference in between nothingness and emptiness. There wasn't anything empty to fill in. There was just ...nothing.Or God was in heaven relaxing and came up with the idea to make this something meaning the elements, space, time, math, us, and create unexplainable things in it and with it.
The problem is that believeing that there was ''nothingness'' before, goes agains the laws of physics - you cannot create something out of nothing.
ALthought I do not beleive in Yahweh, Jehovah, or Allah, I do think that the Legend would be fascinating....
to imagine an Omnipotent being who sung the universe into existance, like a poem creating stars, a word creating the worlds, a rhythm which magically sewed reality together, that would be beautiful !
Originally posted by Nellinator
Depends on what the word translated at days really means. The fact is that it can mean a very long period of time suggesting that it could be anywhere from 7 billion years to 7 days.
I think you should argue that the essense of your Faith is more important than the details.
The Bible was written by MAN, but that doesn't degrade the value of the wisdom in the Bible, especially if you beleive that the Bible was inspired by God.
Given scientific evidence for various aspects of planets and their forming as well as evidence supporting evolution and various processes involved in the world and species evolving to the way we know them, I doubt the young earth theory very strongly. That being said, if one had spoken to a scientist a few hundred years ago, most scientists would have stated it was impossible to go from one side of the world to the other at the speed we do today, they would have stated it impossible to begin a human life outside a female and then place it in a female and have a viable birth. This leads to the idea that regardless of our "facts", we are ignorant of many things and as such are not capable of stating absolutes only extremely solid probabilities. So, while I don't believe it, perhaps some vocalization could bring about organization of matter, but given what we know at present such is impossible.
Originally posted by Regret
Given scientific evidence for various aspects of planets and their forming as well as evidence supporting evolution and various processes involved in the world and species evolving to the way we know them, I doubt the young earth theory very strongly. That being said, if one had spoken to a scientist a few hundred years ago, most scientists would have stated it was impossible to go from one side of the world to the other at the speed we do today, they would have stated it impossible to begin a human life outside a female and then place it in a female and have a viable birth. This leads to the idea that regardless of our "facts", we are ignorant of many things and as such are not capable of stating absolutes only extremely solid probabilities. So, while I don't believe it, perhaps some vocalization could bring about organization of matter, but given what we know at present such is impossible.
Oh I agree with you.....we think we know all there is to know, the Human Race is still drowned in its own ignorance and hubris.
Originally posted by Lord UrizenYou know what I find interesting? God sees his creations and that they are "good". They weren't "great" or "wonderful", not "perfect", just "good". I guess he sees it all and says it's "very good", but still...
Oh I agree with you.....we think we know all there is to know, the Human Race is still drowned in its own ignorance and hubris.
Originally posted by Regret
You know what I find interesting? God sees his creations and that they are "good". They weren't "great" or "wonderful", not "perfect", just "good". I guess he sees it all and says it's "very good", but still...
What if God was limitted in power and knowledge, and the human race, world, and rest of the universe was just his experiment ? That would mean he would learn and grow like we would....
And if God could speak the universe into existance, then that means he or she could also speak it into oblivion
Originally posted by Lord UrizenI just figure that sometimes the flaws make the picture that much better.
What if God was limitted in power and knowledge, and the human race, world, and rest of the universe was just his experiment ? That would mean he would learn and grow like we would....And if God could speak the universe into existance, then that means he or she could also speak it into oblivion
Re: God Spoke the Universe into Existance..
Originally posted by FistOfThe NorthI like this picture of the creation:
I was meditating on this and i found it just incredible to know that God spoke the universe into existence. But I went even deeper. I sort of went into how he actually may've done it. Like what tongue was he speaking in. Or what gestures did he make. He probably used a tongue that was just unimaginably astounding. Like this big hum of enormously loud sounds, heard simultaneously through every inch of space in space. Ridiculously louds galactic sounds that were beyond words and letters and math and space and time. Sounds that are just impossibly complicated and sophisticated to an incalculable degree, to understand with the human ear. And doing this while creating, galaxies, the universe. Just by words.Wow.
God stands in a laboratory, his laboratory coat is pristine as he raises a vial of something over a bubbling, gurgling, concoction. Glass tubes beakers are around the room.
He states, "Let there be bacteria."
His hand twists, the contents of the vial pour into the concoction, some process occurs, and bacteria begins to grow.
He looks over his creation, observes that it is how it was intended, and states, "It is good."
He then moves to the next portion of creation after cleaning and placing the creation where it was supposed to be.
Originally posted by lil bitchiness
The problem is that believeing that there was ''nothingness'' before, goes agains the laws of physics - you cannot create something out of nothing.
God is beyond the law of physics. He made it. He does works in mysterious ways for anything is possible with God. Even the impossible.