Captain America versus Luke Cage

Started by Alfheim8 pages
Originally posted by xmarksthespot

Mantis, the Celestial Madonna, knocked out Thor. Once. From behind iirc. Which can definitely be construed by Thor fans as out of character for him considering the things he's done. 🙂

*sigh* Mantis's bio states that she can knockout beings as powerful as Thor so its not just Thor its other beings as powerful as him. Both the bio and the comics back each other up.

The reason why im giving Mantis as an example is because Mantis still has only peak human strength and Thor still has superhumanly durable nerves. Logically she should not be able to do it. Cap does what she does on a lesser scale. I dont think Cap can KO Thor but I think he is capable of Koing Namor.

Originally posted by xmarksthespot

She did the same thing to Vision, who has no nerves as far as I know.

Well I guess its PIS.

Originally posted by Daredevil1
Uh yeah he's hurting Cage.

No he's not. Maybe a little bit, okay. That's all I want to give you.

Cage however tears CA apart.

Cage however tears CA apart.

You need to add there IMO.

Originally posted by Kid Kurdy
No he's not. Maybe a little bit, okay. That's all I want to give you.

Cage however tears CA apart.

How is that going to happen when Cap has beaten people tougher than Cage?

Originally posted by Alfheim
Right so you think that Cap can KO Cage. IF you do that makes you all fanboys because according Soljer Cap can KO people in the class 80 range but cnat KO Luke Cage, therefore if you think that Cap can beat Luke Cage you are a raving fanboy.
Forget about what Soljer says about Cap. King KAM and I have kicked him out of the Cap fan club for being unpatriotic.
Originally posted by xmarksthespot
Out of curiosity what of the Thing? Colossus? Do you really think he has a snowball's chance on a clear Summer's day in Hell of hurting them? Others in that realm of strength and durability? Diamond-form Emma Frost, who survived the Genosha extinction event?

I mean he hurt the Hulk and Namor... despite their numerous other showings of durability. 313

Personally, I do think he has a snowball's chance in hell of hurting both Thing and Colossus. Do a search on those exact matchups, as I commented in both of those threads with specific scenarios as to how Cap could hurt them in the same manner I did here. There's always a way. You think just a little bit and you'll usually find it.

She did the same thing to Vision, who has no nerves as far as I know.

She KO'ed Vision when?

Originally posted by OneDumbG0
Forget about what Soljer says about Cap. King KAM and I have kicked him out of the Cap fan club for being unpatriotic.
Personally, I do think he has a snowball's chance in hell of hurting both Thing and Colossus. Do a search on those exact matchups, as I commented in both of those threads with specific scenarios as to how Cap could hurt them in the same manner I did here. There's always a way. You think just a little bit and you'll usually find it.

Yeah and on top of that he uses very inconsistent arguments, for example he'll talk about how Cap can knock out people in the class 80 range but cant KO Luke Cage 🤨 ....at least be consistent.

Originally posted by OneDumbG0
Do a search on those exact matchups, as I commented in both of those threads with specific scenarios as to how Cap could hurt them in the same manner I did here. There's always a way. You think just a little bit and you'll usually find it.

You're wasting your time Xmarks didnt come to debate but to argue.

Originally posted by Alfheim
Yeah and on top of that he uses very inconsistent arguments, for example he'll talk about how Cap can knock out people in the class 80 range but cant KO Luke Cage 🤨 ....at least be consistent.

You're wasting your time Xmarks didnt come to debate but to argue.

🙄 I was in the Colossus vs Captain America thread a year before you even joined the forum. OneDumbG's comments in the Colossus thread amounted to the exact same thing as in this thread, iirc "He'll find a way." "He can cut his ear." He can dent his eye." "He'll ride the thunderclap." Despite evidence to the contrary. Which meant jack to me then and still means jack to me. But that's still more than most of the crap you post. "Debating" with you is often akin to having one's eyes pulled out, being forced to eat them and having nitric acid poured into the sockets while being repeatedly stabbed with a rusty machete.

Get the fuck over yourself, please. Kkthxbi.

Originally posted by xmarksthespot
🙄 I was in the Colossus vs Captain America thread a year before you even joined the forum. OneDumbG's comments in the Colossus thread amounted to the exact same thing as in this thread, iirc "He'll find a way." "He can cut his ear." He can dent his eye." "He'll ride the thunderclap." Despite evidence to the contrary. Which meant jack to me then and still means jack to me. But that's still more than most of the crap you post.

Get the fuck over yourself, please. Kkthxbi.

Alfheim's man-crush showing again?

😍 I loves it when you be pwning those fanboys, X.

Ha,he said kkthxbi.

I'd have to go with Luke Cage here. But Cap. has the jobber aura thing that works wonders for him.

Vibranium is one of the toughest metals on earth, yes? If Cap slams his shield into Cage's teeth, he's definitely going to feel. Like it was stated before, despite many people refusing to realize it, Cap has hurt Namor and The Hulk.

Yes, Captain America can defeat Luke
Yes, Cage can defeat Cap

Now that we've gotten that straightened out, I think Cap's agility and speed will be too much for Luke to handle. Unless he's able to restrain Cap or hold him down.

Originally posted by xmarksthespot
🙄 I was in the Colossus vs Captain America thread a year before you even joined the forum. OneDumbG's comments in the Colossus thread amounted to the exact same thing as in this thread, iirc "He'll find a way." "He can cut his ear." He can dent his eye." "He'll ride the thunderclap." Despite evidence to the contrary. Which meant jack to me then and still means jack to me. But that's still more than most of the crap you post. "Debating" with you is often akin to having one's eyes pulled out, being forced to eat them and having nitric acid poured into the sockets while being repeatedly stabbed with a rusty machete.

Get the fuck over yourself, please. Kkthxbi.

What evidence to the contrary are you referring to? 616-Colossus' form has been pierced and damaged before. Indeed, he's been shredded before. .45 caliber bullet resistant eyes? Wrecking Crew has that same durability over their body. It's not all that special. Read up 'Secret Wars' again where they make specific reference to it and Hawkeye owns them. Yes, it might be hard, but please read a comic. Cap's shield blows have torn right through Iron Man's armor among other things. He's shredded helicopters with shield tosses. There's so much evidence that Cap's shield does more damage than a .45 caliber bullet that your reliance on such a fact was purely asinine. Do you want me to show you scans of Cap riding shockwaves with his shield and being unharmed? Indeed, shockwaves much more potent than a measly thunderclap? In the end, I ended up ignoring your participation in the whole thing, as I was much more interested in Metalmanx's comments. But if you want me to make you look like an utter fool with scans, then I will. But we both know I could, so if you let this post ride as is, I won't embarass you.

And now here we are with this thread. Are you stating that Cage's eyes are invulnerable or Thing's eyes are invulnerable? Apparently so. So I guess you must be more of an idiot. Want to step back frrom your position a bit? Yeah, you should. I'm looking at obvious weakpoints. Any strategist would. If you think Cap is going to punch him in the chest, then you're a fool. You want me to flood you with scans of him analyzing an opponent whose durability and power outclasses him and him going for the weak points? It's called thinking. You should try it sometime. Then again you could continue to be ignorant and make par for the course.

Originally posted by xmarksthespot
🙄 I was in the Colossus vs Captain America thread a year before you even joined the forum. OneDumbG's comments in the Colossus thread amounted to the exact same thing as in this thread, iirc "He'll find a way." "He can cut his ear." He can dent his eye." "He'll ride the thunderclap." Despite evidence to the contrary.

Is Collosus more durable than Namor? Cap has hurt Namor on numerous ocassions that evidence is crap?

Originally posted by xmarksthespot

Which meant jack to me then and still means jack to me. But that's still more than most of the crap you post.

It means jack to you because as usual you are not interested in what the other party has to say.

Originally posted by xmarksthespot

"Debating" with you is often akin to having one's eyes pulled out, being forced to eat them and having nitric acid poured into the sockets while being repeatedly stabbed with a rusty machete.

Get the fuck over yourself, please. Kkthxbi.

Bullocks you have already started your bullshit already with you're depndent clause bullshit. You even wanted to debate wether Mantis has the ability to KO Thor despite the fact that she has done it in comics and it says in her bio. You have even said in one of your posts that Beast is much more agile than Cap , which clearly shows you dont know what the **** you are talking about its just pure Cap hate.

Your an argumentative prick and you cant help being an ***hole. Dont like my posts dont relpy to them. Feel free to make some bullshit excuse like you dont understand what im saying or I dont understand what your saying. It would help if you spent less time on getting on my case and had a look at yourself.

Your the one who has said that its not about being peak human or amped but its wether its somebody powerset. It is mantis's powerset to KO Thor but now you are contradicting yourself because you want to be an ***hole.

Originally posted by xmarksthespot

These things aren't analagous. And it isn't about what people can do in the real world. It's about what characters can do given their powersets in the comic book world.

Dr Strange is the Sorceror Supreme. Doom is the genius ruler of Latveria. And Iron Man is a futurist industrialist genius with too much time on his hands.

http://www.marvel.com/universe/Mantis

Her mastery of the Priests' martial arts, which focus on manipulation of nerve endings and pressure points, has enabled her to knock out beings as powerful as Thor.

Right so its not Mantis's powerset to KO Thor? Why the **** are you arguing.....er you're a arumentative *****

😆 I'm just saying shit to **** with Alfheim for the most part. Messing with fanboys is what I do...😬.

Yeah, I know, Soljer. I'm just trying to caution him against getting riled up with your comments. But that still doesn't get you back inside the Cap fan-club. 😆

Originally posted by OneDumbG0
Yeah, I know, Soljer. I'm just trying to caution him against getting riled up with your comments. But that still doesn't get you back inside the Cap fan-club. 😆

Awww. 🙁.

But look at my contributions to the respect thread!

Damnit...

What it all boils down to, is that cage literally cant land a hit on the cap, Cap simply dodges and parries all of cages punches until he wears him down.

Cap can render pressure points and damage to cage with the shield.

Cap wins, hell even the ex commander of sheild Maria Hill agrees

wow...that's a diss. DD is someone who can give Cap a run for his money.

Originally posted by masterbruce
wow...that's a diss. DD is someone who can give Cap a run for his money.
In some peoples eyes, but.... those eyes arent very logical ones, so ill allow you to use mine...

CAP PWNS THEM BOTH BIATCHES!!!!