Originally posted by lil bitchiness
Its not my ''homework'' - I have passed doing homework 5 years ago.I don't really need theoretical perspective or philosphies, I kow all my theory - I need to know how YOU (persumably, non-criminals) view the world of subcultures, presented in the first post, as criminal and do YOU think it causes criminal behaviour.
For example - a lot of people thought Marylin Manson and Goth subculture were doomed homocidal maniacs who are gonna all go back to school one day and shoot everyone - that still stands in a lot of cases.
So...anyone else on subcultures?
I think people who are easily influenced and wanting to please their peer group would be more likely to participate in drug abuse or selling, stealing, joy riding a stolen car, etc.
The goth has to do with people who don't fit in or who don't want to fit in to the main stream, and if you are referring to Columbine, i hate to mention race again, but it was the cool black kids that were using the whites to pick on other whites, those "other" whites were goth like, and yeah, it turned very ugly, as the guys were not only into goth but also very racist, but one would wonder why, and there are few people who know WHO the bullying was coming from...white conduits picking on other whites, and the ones pulling the string of the white conduits were the "black cool kids" in Columbine.
Re: Subcultures
Originally posted by lil bitchiness
Do you believe that a collective behaviour within certain subcultures, around a certain imagery, style and symbolic meaning reinforces criminal, or violent behaviour?
Its more than just "reinforced images". Crime is the point of subcultures. "Subculture" is just a sugar-coating word for, and an indirect way of saying organized crime. The Yakuza, Mafia, Tong, La Eme and the homeboys in the barrio are all examles of subcultures.
A lot of laymen think that "subcultures" are middle-class high school kids who wear Anti-flag and Iron Maiden T-shirts and have pink mohawks. That's so dumb its laughable. You take any of those "anti-authority" kids and thrust them into the cut-throat world of true subculture, and they wouldn't last a day.
Re: Re: Subcultures
Originally posted by Quiero MotaA lot of laymen think that "subcultures" are middle-class high school kids who wear Anti-flag and Iron Maiden T-shirts and have pink mohawks. That's so dumb its laughable. You take any of those "anti-authority" kids and thrust them into the cut-throat world of true subculture, and they wouldn't last a day. [/B]
they wouldn't last a day around animals, true, even the average civil person won't last a day in the jungle, so what? they will get eaten alive by a bunch of low dimensional people who want to TAKE TAKE TAKE TAKE and TAKE....SOMEHOW trying to "survive" in that kind of environment shouldn't be seen as a moment of glory or success, most civil societies know this, and that's why they do offer some deviation in culture as a way for youths to express themselves in a civil manner, outside of that environment, it's dog-eat-dog, cannibalistic, hatred-encouraged, crime intense culture.