Defenders vs. Avengers

Started by Jax_Jax6 pages

canada isnt the most advanced.

theyre not advanced in anything.

they have a portion of their country shared with the french.

what is that?

america is the best in everything, this is why were the power house of the world

Originally posted by Martian_mind
Bah,mungi comes from Canada,the most medically advanced country on earth.That is a babies arm that replaced his original 2-inches of pleasure,o-inches of pain.

Possibly. I mean, it IS abnormally large. I think it's a combination of many different penises put together. Sort of like a frankenpenis.

-grabs torch- Kill the frankenpenis before it destroys us all!

Originally posted by long pig
Possibly. I mean, it IS abnormally large. I think it's a combination of many different penises put together. Sort of like a frankenpenis.

-grabs torch- Kill the frankenpenis before it destroys us all!

Indeed...however Pig,i have had my men watching you for many a moon now and they have discovered your terrible secret....yes Pig that's right,we know about your werepenis.....so......much....hair

Grab your torch and pitchforks!!!

americans have the biggest dicks.

they rule everything, even if they didnt, all the other countries would say they did, cuz they wouldnt want to get their jaws tested

Originally posted by Jax_Jax
americans have the biggest dicks.

they rule everything, even if they didnt, all the other countries would say they did, cuz they wouldnt want to get their jaws tested

Americans have tiny wangs compared to aussie's.

.....and even if they did have large one's they wouldn't be able to see them under the huge guts you all have gotten from your pathetic Fried foods.

its better than crepes and shit frenchy.

and gut or no gut, if canadians had big dicks, then they'd get credit for something, other than being a place for cheap beer and blond hookers.

Originally posted by Martian_mind
Indeed...however Pig,i have had my men watching you for many a moon now and they have discovered your terrible secret....yes Pig that's right,we know about your werepenis.....so......much....hair

Grab your torch and pitchforks!!!


Indeed. Whenever there is a full-frontal nudity, my penis starts to change....it grows larger, stronger, veins bulge with rage, until it finally rips through my pants and attacks the face of the nearest female.

Apparently, I was bitten by the rare spitting werewolf due to the fact that my werepenis seems to unleash a deadly stream of gooey acid at its prey.

that aint shit.

when my demon slayer is unleashed, it literally eats people.

maybe thats why americans are so fat.

Your demon slayer ain't shit. My werepenis would kick its ass!

Nah, my werepenis would most likely fight awkwardly real hard and fast for a few seconds and then retreat back into my pants and stick to my thigh.

................................................. 😐

Originally posted by King_Mungi
Captain Britain broke them pretty effortesly and if Dr.Strange has to focus on just maintaining the bands, he would be excluded from the fight as what else could he do if he has to focus on maintaining control. From what I recall they did, and he didn't even phase Thor due to having a connection to Gaeea. Er? a Thunder God who has battled Surtur, Kurse, Mangog would not be fast enough to stop a mutant from freezing him? come on. Plus every time he does the soul steal it's instant. Plus the fact even Sentry can go multiple lightspeed so he really could speedblitz majority of the team quick, and sadly he could do it.

I don’t know the exact circumstances behind the Captain Britain incident, but from what I gather from the respect thread, no one was there to concentrate on them staying strong. I don’t see how Thor fighting those guys indicates any superior speed. I mean, it’s not like those monsters are known for being speed demons. Also, how is Thor going to be to pin-point Iceman’s soul if he essentially exists in the moisture all around him? Thor doesn’t know the full extent of Bobby’s abilities, so it’s not like he can guess what he’ll be doing and it’s not like he can just try to suck the souls of every one on the battlefield without also sucking the souls of his teammates.

Originally posted by King_Mungi
Come on now your going to downgrad Asgard? Gods? Well considering Odin said no matter what he threw at him he absorbed it so he had to BFR. If Creel effortesly took on Asgard and your Odin you wouldn't pull some powerful attacks? Er? Well considering War Hulk was meant to battle Celestials moot point. No, but Quasar can absorb and redirect infinite amount of energy due to the nega bands.

Not really, I’m saying that because they took him seriously, that doesn’t mean Odin did; I mean, all the other Asgardians only have physical abilities, unlike Odin and Thor, which is useless against an Absorbing Man who knows how to use his powers. What I would do as Odin wouldn’t matter, since the actual Odin only used powerful wind attacks and such, which I doubt were any where close to his most powerful attacks. Being meant to fight Celestials and actually being able to fight Celestials are two totally different things, just look at the Asgardian Destroyer or the Eternal Flame of Life. And despite that , I still wouldn’t put Quasar above Odin.

Originally posted by King_Mungi
Slightly? you kidding he did it vastly easier than all you listed, and even mentioned Morg another Herald who didn't do it that easy until he got the WOL. Terrax can use the power cosmic to amplify his strength also yes actually Surfer has, fresh off the victory from Hulk and still bragging a weakened Surfer dominated Abomination. I mean dominated. Naaaa...Surfer shrugged those blows off from a seriously pissed off Hulk. You have proof Abomination was depowered, because I have the tie-ins and don't recall it ever being stated he was depowered by half. Right, would look bad if Surfer did it now since all Hulk is just a melee fighter. Meh! She Hulk has beat the Champion. On this board you don't include PIS/CIS

Heralds can amp their strength, but really how often do they do it? Especially when Terrax believes Sentry to just be another ordinary human, he’s not going to map himself. Surfer doesn’t really have a victory off of Hulk in their recent battle, he just knocked Hulk back two times- the first time Hulk got right back up and charged him, only to get knocked back again. And there’s the fact that they were both severely weakened on that planet. He didn’t exactly take those punches and simply shrug them off, as his teeth were clearly clenched during the head-stomping (showing his pain) and he had to shield himself to avoid any further abuse). Surfer didn’t dominate the same Abomination who beat up Hulk. The issue right after Abom beat the hell out of Hulk, Bruce used a machine to sap his strength; in fact, I believe the Surfer’s fight with him was Abom’s very next appearance after being sapped of his strength. Or, it could just be that Hulk is physically stronger than Surfer and has shown to be able to exert more raw power than Surfer can. Seeing as how Abom as he is now was nearly beaten to death by Hulk twice, was beaten by Wonder Man, Namor, and Thor, and seemingly lost to Colossus, I don’t see how it would be PIS/CIS.

Originally posted by King_Mungi
You can't simply freeze energy blasts, that doesn't even make any scientifical scene. Yes, yes mutants and comic book world but it's not possible. Strange isn't simply going to instantly freeze time, especially with the likes of Sentry who literally could see it coming and with his speed would stop it. There is no one on the other team who could even stop him. Strange if anyone has a higher degree to be transmuted..he's just human.

It just goes to show that if Iceman can do that, he can freeze Thor. I’d imagine Strange’s auto-shields could prevent him from being knocked out. He has taken a punch from a pissed off Sentry already and gotten right back up. And Strange is human… with very powerful magical powers.

I call my Johnson the "Canadian Decapitator"...why? I'm not allowed to say pending a trial date.

Originally posted by Accel
I don’t know the exact circumstances behind the Captain Britain incident, but from what I gather from the respect thread, no one was there to concentrate on them staying strong. I don’t see how Thor fighting those guys indicates any superior speed. I mean, it’s not like those monsters are known for being speed demons. Also, how is Thor going to be to pin-point Iceman’s soul if he essentially exists in the moisture all around him? Thor doesn’t know the full extent of Bobby’s abilities, so it’s not like he can guess what he’ll be doing and it’s not like he can just try to suck the souls of every one on the battlefield without also sucking the souls of his teammates.

Once again if Strange has to constantly have to focus on them to maintain control he's done. He would be to focused on maintaining his prison he would be out of the fight. It would be a poor tactacial move in a group battle, which he is the teams main go to guy. Thor has shown multiple light speed just throwing his hammer, so er? Quite easily actually, if he can sense it which he can he can absorb it. Unless you think Iceman's soul would beyond detection? So Thor can't steal Iceman's soul, but Iceman can instantly freeze Thor without much trouble? hmmm..

Originally posted by Accel
Not really, I’m saying that because they took him seriously, that doesn’t mean Odin did; I mean, all the other Asgardians only have physical abilities, unlike Odin and Thor, which is useless against an Absorbing Man who knows how to use his powers. What I would do as Odin wouldn’t matter, since the actual Odin only used powerful wind attacks and such, which I doubt were any where close to his most powerful attacks. Being meant to fight Celestials and actually being able to fight Celestials are two totally different things, just look at the Asgardian Destroyer or the Eternal Flame of Life. And despite that , I still wouldn’t put Quasar above Odin.

At the time he did state he was taking him serious, and that's why the BFR. Naaaa...their more than that, many have magical abilities or magical weapons they arn't just melee. Well some of Thor's most powerful blasts excluding Godwave is his lightening and AM has absorbed that without much trouble. Well consider Apoc even used Celestial technology and some jazz stated in an interview Hulk tapped into a dimension or universe some jazz like that for extra power. I never put Quasar over Odin, but Quasar has the unique ability to absorb all forms of energy in an unlimited supply that's his power. Heck, Uuta (or however you spell his name) said he was equal to Galactus, and Quasar smacked a Watcher down? Most impressive.

Originally posted by Accel
Heralds can amp their strength, but really how often do they do it? Especially when Terrax believes Sentry to just be another ordinary human, he’s not going to map himself. Surfer doesn’t really have a victory off of Hulk in their recent battle, he just knocked Hulk back two times- the first time Hulk got right back up and charged him, only to get knocked back again. And there’s the fact that they were both severely weakened on that planet. He didn’t exactly take those punches and simply shrug them off, as his teeth were clearly clenched during the head-stomping (showing his pain) and he had to shield himself to avoid any further abuse). Surfer didn’t dominate the same Abomination who beat up Hulk. The issue right after Abom beat the hell out of Hulk, Bruce used a machine to sap his strength; in fact, I believe the Surfer’s fight with him was Abom’s very next appearance after being sapped of his strength. Or, it could just be that Hulk is physically stronger than Surfer and has shown to be able to exert more raw power than Surfer can. Seeing as how Abom as he is now was nearly beaten to death by Hulk twice, was beaten by Wonder Man, Namor, and Thor, and seemingly lost to Colossus, I don’t see how it would be PIS/CIS.

They do it frequently enough to not just simply ignore it. If your talking about the Planet Hulk fight, Surfer was severly weakened from the wormhole travel. More so than when Hulk went through or so they said in the comic. Clinching your teeth does not automatically mean extensive pain, far from it. Really from that outcome Surfer took no physical damage what's so ever. Yet from what I recall when Abomination was ressurected from the Beyonder he stated he was at full power. No Abomination lost to the X-Men in an off-panel fight. Ummm..Namor has beat Hulk underwater, and Thor should beat the Hulk every single time in a non PIS/CIS fight. Wonder Man is no sloutch as well.

Originally posted by Accel

It just goes to show that if Iceman can do that, he can freeze Thor. I’d imagine Strange’s auto-shields could prevent him from being knocked out. He has taken a punch from a pissed off Sentry already and gotten right back up. And Strange is human… with very powerful magical powers.

Naaa...more of the lines of PIS. If you go by how Strange majority of the time is portrayed they would help but not they are not impregnable. Shaman has taken a hammer throw from a pissed Thor and lived...meh!

Originally posted by King_Mungi
Once again if Strange has to constantly have to focus on them to maintain control he's done. He would be to focused on maintaining his prison he would be out of the fight. It would be a poor tactacial move in a group battle, which he is the teams main go to guy. Thor has shown multiple light speed just throwing his hammer, so er? Quite easily actually, if he can sense it which he can he can absorb it. Unless you think Iceman's soul would beyond detection? So Thor can't steal Iceman's soul, but Iceman can instantly freeze Thor without much trouble? hmmm..

I doubt it takes THAT much focus, seeing as how he just needs enough time to conjure up a time-freeze spell or whatever to he can to give his team the edge. The speed at which Thor swings or throws his hammer doesn’t say any thing about him having superior speed; heck, it could be argued that his swings require massive momentum of swinging the hammer before he has to release. Pretty much almost the entire bulk of Thor’s continuity says he has no superior speed in this battle. Not saying Iceman has any speed advantage either, but I do believe he has a better chance to attack first due to the following circumstances...
‘Course Thor CAN steal Iceman’s soul, but considering Iceman would literally be all over the place, it wouldn’t be simple by any means, and by the time he locates it, he’ll be frozen already. Or he’ll be too distracted by an attacking Namor to try to detect him, and he’ll be frozen by Bobby.

Originally posted by King_Mungi
At the time he did state he was taking him serious, and that's why the BFR. Naaaa...their more than that, many have magical abilities or magical weapons they arn't just melee. Well some of Thor's most powerful blasts excluding Godwave is his lightening and AM has absorbed that without much trouble. Well consider Apoc even used Celestial technology and some jazz stated in an interview Hulk tapped into a dimension or universe some jazz like that for extra power. I never put Quasar over Odin, but Quasar has the unique ability to absorb all forms of energy in an unlimited supply that's his power. Heck, Uuta (or however you spell his name) said he was equal to Galactus, and Quasar smacked a Watcher down? Most impressive.

No, Odin stated, “I permitted thy base charade to continue, for I desired to see the extent of then ambition…” and then he proceeded to BFR him. And considering he didn’t even resort to any thing close to the galaxy busting attacks he showed in his battle against Surtur, he clearly wasn’t going all out.
If Creel kept absorbing more and more of Thor’s lightning, he’d probably overload as well; it’s not like he overloaded as soon as absorbed some of Sentry’s energy. And the source of War Hulk’s power is irrelevant, since the point is he’s still not more powerful than other top-tiers, just like Quasar isn’t above herald/top-tier level and neither is Sentry.

Originally posted by King_Mungi
They do it frequently enough to not just simply ignore it. If your talking about the Planet Hulk fight, Surfer was severly weakened from the wormhole travel. More so than when Hulk went through or so they said in the comic. Clinching your teeth does not automatically mean extensive pain, far from it. Really from that outcome Surfer took no physical damage what's so ever. Yet from what I recall when Abomination was ressurected from the Beyonder he stated he was at full power. No Abomination lost to the X-Men in an off-panel fight. Ummm..Namor has beat Hulk underwater, and Thor should beat the Hulk every single time in a non PIS/CIS fight. Wonder Man is no sloutch as well.

Right, but Terrax just saw Sentry standing and immediately perceived him to be another weakling. It’s not like he just thought to himself he should amp himself any more than he did when he fought Thing or Iron Man.
They were both weakened, right. And Hulk’s durability was at its lowest, especially seeing how he was still being hurt by spears and spikes at this time. Clenchng your teeth doesn’t mean you’re hurt badly, but it does show he was being hurt by Hulk’s blows (that and the fact that he had to shield himself from Hulk’s attacks) despite how he looked afterwards. And what damage he shows doesn’t go against that, especially seeing that Thor has showed no damage right after Hulk pounded him into the ground and even Thing didn’t show any noticeable damage after Hulk knocked him out.
Abomination was brought back to full power by the Galaxy Master, but that happened much later after his fight with Surfer.
Colossus was also stated to have bashed Abomination’s face in when that guy wa visiting Freedon Ring in the hospital. The Abomination fights are just examples that show he has a horrible track record, especially considering Thor and Hercules each took him out with only a punch or two and unlike Hulk and his fight with Namor underwater, Abom had the ability to breathe underwater.

Originally posted by King_Mungi
Naaa...more of the lines of PIS. If you go by how Strange majority of the time is portrayed they would help but not they are not impregnable. Shaman has taken a hammer throw from a pissed Thor and lived...meh!

Which would be PIS, Iceman freezing Thor or Strange taking a punch from Sentry? I really don’t see why it would be either, especially seeing that there’s no reason to say Thor’s immune to being frozen. Heck, Iceman could start freezing Thor’s brain and go from there and Thor wouldn’t be able to stop him at that point.
Strange has always been shown to have auto-shields, which provides an explanation of how he can take a punch from Sentry like he has without being knocked out.

Grrrr...you, this will never end and I'm in mid-terms. Bear with me, hopefully have a response tommorow night or might have to be monday.

Sorry.

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I'm back, just finished my 2/5 of my mid-terms. Hopefully get the reply tonight