THe LT vs. Micheal the Arc Angel

Originally posted by bigbran
Is LT equal to God? No, then what does that have to do with the thread?

The Presence is equal to TOAA on these boards... is this just another way to make a company more powerful than the other?

Do you mean holding the Brothers in his hands? Ya...

You notice how you said that Spectre helped? You also notice how Micheal is above Spectre? Really just makes your case worse...

Yes Mr Master is great... but even he can leave out things *gasp*.
All they did was hold them together for a short time. Did you forget that the Brothers also didn't even acknowledge them? That Spectre and LT were tiny specks. That the duo never beat them, but the Brothers stalemated?

And finally... That the comic was non canon?
Or are you talking about the other non-canon X-Men arc?
Yes, yes, LT makes it canon to him, but it still doesn't mean anything.
If Spectre, and LT beat them (depowered, ret-conned, whatever you want to call it), then it is still irrelevent to this battle.

Also, if you want to use that comic, LT and Spectre were equals.
Looky how the equal fairs.
http://img110.imageshack.us/img110/7788/spectre19931012if7.jpg
http://img110.imageshack.us/img110/8840/spectre19931013bj3.jpg
http://img469.imageshack.us/img469/5512/spectre19931016al6.jpg
*gasp*

Micheal wins.

Bigbran pretty much sums it up nicely

Michael>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Spectre=LT

Originally posted by Thanos_THOTU
But fact is, the source is weaker than Yewhew, as the Presence.

Yewhew = God
The Source = The Holy Spirit

God >> Jesus > Holy Spirit > Saint Michael
That's the bible's hierarchy

Yewhew is weaker than the Presence and the One-Above-All

But then again "Physics and Logic" triumps Religion of any kind.
Si quis non amat Dominium lesum sit anathema maranatha. Amen.

This is who I was referring to, I made a mistake in thinking it was you Galan.

Originally posted by Board Walker
This is who I was referring to, I made a mistake in thinking it was you Galan.

For a minute I thought you were trying to put words in my mouth. 😛

For once we cannot use non canon material (crossovers) to prove anything canon.
Living Tribunal =/= Spectre

Now what we have is.
-Living Tribunal overseers all Multiverses.
-Michael's power and Lucifer's will is enough to create one universe.

-Living Tribunal is second only to the Supreme being
-Michael is after Lucifer which is after Yewhew, which is weaker than the Presence.

Originally posted by Thanos_THOTU
For once we cannot use non canon material (crossovers) to prove anything canon.
Living Tribunal =/= Spectre

Now what we have is.
-Living Tribunal overseers all Multiverses.
-Michael's power and Lucifer's will is enough to create one universe.

-Living Tribunal is second only to the Supreme being
-Michael is after Lucifer which is after Yewhew, which is weaker than the Presence.

YOu are so thick headed. How many times do I have to tell you this isn't michael from vertigo. Read the damn thread if you missed that. 2ndly, Micheal and lucifer only made on universe cuz that is all lucifer wanted. Do you see michael exhausted after lucifer casually cut michael or what ever he did and made the one universe? You act as if they couldn't have made more. Vertigo itself is a multiverse of multiverses. Lucifers own book was a multiverse unto itself. and then another book in vertigo would be a differnt universe and could have a multiverse in it as well. Just stop it with your terrible assessment of DC and or vertigo and you don't own any of the books your trying to catagorize.

Originally posted by Thanos_THOTU
For once we cannot use non canon material (crossovers) to prove anything canon.
Living Tribunal =/= Spectre

Now what we have is.
-Living Tribunal overseers all Multiverses.
-Michael's power and Lucifer's will is enough to create one universe.

-Living Tribunal is second only to the Supreme being
-Michael is after Lucifer which is after Yewhew, which is weaker than the Presence.

Again you are wrong

Shown on Panel, LT was defeated by the HOTU, which is the power of one multiverse and nothing more.

So regardless of speculation and hyperbole, LT has shown that his power and influence is less then multiversal, due to being defeated by the HOTU.

Now saying LT only lost because TOAA wanted him to, has as much weight on these forums as Galactic Storm saying "The phoenix will only die if it wills itself to".

Next, Vertigo Michael Demigueros has shown he has the complete power of god, the first time he did not create a universe, he created a multiverse.

Later on in the series at the end, when he gives his very essence and power to his daughter Elaine, she creates a new multiverse, and then scraps away the older multiverses; that is correct multiverses, she wills away Lucifer's and Yaweh's multiverse and makes her own.

DC Michael the Archangel, who is a different character entirely, is beyond Vertigo Michael.

As it stands purely by on panel showings

HOTU (power of a multiverse and nothing more) > LT

Vertigo Michael Demigueros > Multiverses

DC Archangel Michael > Michael Demigueros.

Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
YOu are so thick headed. How many times do I have to tell you this isn't michael from vertigo. Read the damn thread if you missed that. 2ndly, Micheal and lucifer only made on universe cuz that is all lucifer wanted. Do you see michael exhausted after lucifer casually cut michael or what ever he did and made the one universe? You act as if they couldn't have made more. Vertigo itself is a multiverse of multiverses. Lucifers own book was a multiverse unto itself. and then another book in vertigo would be a differnt universe and could have a multiverse in it as well. Just stop it with your terrible assessment of DC and or vertigo and you don't own any of the books your trying to catagorize.

DON'T IGNORE THIS, PROVE THAT MICHAEL EXISTS OUTSIDE VERTIGO NOW, NOW NOW NOW!!

OR GET THE F OUT OF HERE

Originally posted by Thanos_THOTU
I ASKED YOU A HUNDRED TIMES SINCE WHEN DID MICHAEL DEMIURGOS EXIST OUTSIDE VERTIGO?!
AND WHEN DID WAS IT STATED THAT HIS POWER WAS CONNECTED TO THE PRESENCE, GIVE ME A SCAN A LINK, ANYTHING WILL DO AS LONG AS IT'S PROOF, NOW HURRY!

DON'T IGNORE THIS, PROVE THAT MICHAEL EXISTS OUTSIDE VERTIGO NOW, NOW NOW NOW!!

OR GET THE F OUT OF HERE

The links have already been posted multiple times now,

Originally posted by Board Walker
Again you are wrong

Shown on Panel, LT was defeated by the HOTU, which is the power of one multiverse and nothing more.

DC Archangel Michael > Michael Demigueros.

Originally posted by Board Walker
The links have already been posted multiple times now,

Originally posted by Thanos_THOTU
I ASKED YOU A HUNDRED TIMES SINCE WHEN DID MICHAEL DEMIURGOS EXIST OUTSIDE VERTIGO?!
AND WHEN DID WAS IT STATED THAT HIS POWER WAS CONNECTED TO THE PRESENCE, GIVE ME A SCAN A LINK, ANYTHING WILL DO AS LONG AS IT'S PROOF, NOW HURRY!

DON'T IGNORE THIS, PROVE THAT MICHAEL EXISTS OUTSIDE VERTIGO NOW, NOW NOW NOW!!

OR GET THE F OUT OF HERE

OMG I'm so tired of you. I posted them in another damn thread. And then Either galan or juntai posted the scans of Michael beating the shit out of the spectre in the DCU as well. you refuse to ignore them. How many times can the same shit be posted.

Originally posted by Thanos_THOTU
I ASKED YOU A HUNDRED TIMES SINCE WHEN DID MICHAEL DEMIURGOS EXIST OUTSIDE VERTIGO?!
AND WHEN DID WAS IT STATED THAT HIS POWER WAS CONNECTED TO THE PRESENCE, GIVE ME A SCAN A LINK, ANYTHING WILL DO AS LONG AS IT'S PROOF, NOW HURRY!

DON'T IGNORE THIS, PROVE THAT MICHAEL EXISTS OUTSIDE VERTIGO NOW, NOW NOW NOW!!

OR GET THE F OUT OF HERE

Originally posted by Thanos_THOTU
It's the power of the Supreme being.

TOAA's power will allways triump LT's.

Prove it, it was never stated.

Vertigo is a universe, unless anything else is stated show it.

DC Michael the Archangel, who is a different character entirely, is beyond Vertigo Michael.

The supreme power of the Multiverse.

Only in your mind.

Korvac had all the power of a universe, and he was beyond LT's reach.
Your logic fails.

Vertigo is not a universe. What the **** are you reading. Each story in vertigo is not in the same universe. Even in lucifer, there are differnt universes as shown when lucifer created his own universe.

Wait a second, the conterparts, how do you think they work?
Just complete these.

Spectre -
Michael -
Lucifer -
Yewhew/Great Darkness -
Presence - TOAA

Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
Vertigo is not a universe. What the **** are you reading. Each story in vertigo is not in the same universe. Even in lucifer, there are differnt universes as shown when lucifer created his own universe.

Originally posted by Thanos_THOTU
DON'T IGNORE THIS, PROVE THAT MICHAEL EXISTS OUTSIDE VERTIGO NOW, NOW NOW NOW!!

Originally posted by Galan007
Ummmm, Michael has been seen a few times during the Spectre arch.

Originally posted by Galan007
http://img110.imageshack.us/img110/7788/spectre19931012if7.jpg
http://img110.imageshack.us/img110/8840/spectre19931013bj3.jpg
http://img469.imageshack.us/img469/5512/spectre19931016al6.jpg[

what's great about this scan is that Michael says cleary that he could destroy spectre outright. Like who can destroy the spectre in all of comics? Only michael.

Thank you Galan, I think Thanos fanboyism is getting the best of him lately.

Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
what's great about this scan is that Michael says cleary that he could destroy spectre outright. Like who can destroy the spectre in all of comics? Only michael.

Yep, the only reason Michael didn't kill Spectre is because he has a purposes in the great scheme of things.

Originally posted by Galan007
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Yep, the only reason Michael didn't kill Spectre is because he has a purposes in the great scheme of things.

And it's a great testamant to the Spectre's true power as well. He actually stood up to the power of God and gave a good fight. and even had michael give him props. When has the LT stood up to anything like that and gave a good fight? So all this LT>>>>Spectre stuff is just crazy. Thanks for that scan. I needed that.