Originally posted by Symmetric Chaos
That is an on panel showing. And it's also stated that they are megaverses. No speculation on my part.
Its still hyperbole and nothing more, if we are going by pure description and hyperbole, then Sentry has the power of a billion exploding suns and stalemates galactus.
Well were at it, then it means Superman has the power of the Source and is the chosen one who's very presence keeps all of existence existing.
The bottom line is, on panel showings have more weight then description and hyperbole.
So for all of LT's great praise, he was defeated on panel by the HOTU, that alone trumps all hyperbole and description.
Originally posted by Board Walker
Its still hyperbole and nothing more, if we are going by pure description and hyperbole, then Sentry has the power of a billion exploding suns and stalemates galactus.Well were at it, then it means Superman has the power of the Source and is the chosen one who's very presence keeps all of existence existing.
The bottom line is, on panel showings have more weight then description and hyperbole.
So for all of LT's great praise, he was defeated on panel by the HOTU, that alone trumps all hyperbole and description.
Get it through your skull, the Heart is supreme just like the Presence.
It's even above the Omniversal guardian Captain Britain (w/ AoR and E)
Originally posted by Thanos_THOTU
He held them in his hand ... It's not like a statement or something, he did it, have you any idea of what hyperbole means?
The Presence would beat the crap out of Michael hahaha.Get it through your skull, the Heart is supreme just like the Presence.
It's even above the Omniversal guardian Captain Britain (w/ AoR and E)
The point is, if he held the post retcon brothers in his hand, then that right their testifies to how weak the brothers are.
HOTU (multiverse and nothing more) > LT
LT > the brothers.
Really all the brother scan does is show how weak the brothers are.
I'm leaning towards LT. Mainly due to the fact that he acts on a grander scale than Michael does. The Living Tribunal has held the embodiments of Two Megaverses in One palm, manipulating them, spinning their destinies in his hand, I'm unaware of Micheal doing anything similar. However my opinion can easily be swayed.
Originally posted by Board Walker
The bottom line is, on panel showings have more weight then description and hyperbole.So for all of LT's great praise, he was defeated on panel by the HOTU, that alone trumps all hyperbole and description.
The bottom line is LT held in one hand Two Megaverses ON PANEL.
The UN can erase and re-create the Multiverse in an instant and the IG made it it's b*tch.
LT shut down the IG, powered up the IG and shunted an Omnidirectional blast by IG Warlock and re-created the Cosmics iuncluding the Sentience of the Universe Eternity with a gesture.
The HOTI is God's power, but Thanos was only able to use it within that Sphere.
That was TOAA's/God's plan.
Originally posted by Mr Master
The bottom line is LT held in one hand Two Megaverses ON PANEL.The UN can erase and re-create the Multiverse in an instant and the IG made it it's b*tch.
LT shut down the IG, powered up the IG and shunted an Omnidirectional blast by IG Warlock and re-created the Cosmics iuncluding the Sentience of the Universe Eternity with a gesture.
The HOTI is God's power, but Thanos was only able to use it within that Sphere.
That was TOAA's/God's plan.
This is speculation on your part Mr. Master, THOTU was never shown to be all of god's power, the HOTU was shown on panel that it gave Thanos the power of 1 multiverse, nothing more.
Their is no on panel evidence that it gives anything else.
The HOTU Was shown that it made Thanos a multiverse and nothing but a multiverse, as he became just as the infinite other spheres around him (multiverses). To assume it gives the user anything else is pure speculation.
On panel LT was destroyed by the HOTU which is but a multiverse in power.
To say that LT only lost because TOAA wanted him to lose as the same as Galactic storm saying "The phoenix only loses when it wills itself to lose, or when TOAA wills it to lose".
Originally posted by Board Walker
This is speculation on your part Mr. Master, THOTU was never shown to be all of god's power, the HOTU was shown on panel that it gave Thanos the power of 1 multiverse, nothing more.Their is no on panel evidence that it gives anything else.
The On Panel evidence is it ... Absorbing the Living Tribunal.
Originally posted by Board Walker
The HOTU Was shown that it made Thanos a multiverse and nothing but a multiverse, as he became just as the infinite other spheres around him (multiverses). To assume it gives the user anything else is pure speculation.
Have you read the End?
Thanos talking about the HOTI (before he knew it was the TOAA/God's power)
Realize Thanos describes it as the Almighty's Power!
The HOTI was Far beyond
the Cosmic Cube (which made Thanos a Universe)
the Infinity Gauntlet which made Thanos a Universe and was only under the Living Tribunal.
Originally posted by Board Walker
On panel LT was destroyed by the HOTU which is but a multiverse in power.
You keep saying that,
yet you been told it was God's/Toaa's power.
Here's Thanos when he first realizes he's been Manipulated by TOAA/God to carry out a specific duty
More PROOF
Warlock tells Thanos, "You were chosen because of your WILL Titan"
Thanos is trying to find a way out of this, but Warlock lets him know better
"I am seeking that Proverbial Loophole"......
Originally posted by Board Walker
To say that LT only lost because TOAA wanted him to lose as the same as Galactic storm saying "The phoenix only loses when it wills itself to lose, or when TOAA wills it to lose".
When the Cosmics including the Living Tribunal were gathering to battle Thanos,
Thanos says, it would never had made a difference,
because they were meant to loose.
"Even if I had confronted them at that moment, Nothing much would have changed,
Some things are Written in a medium more indelible THAN EVEN the Stars,
Certain DOOMS Can NOT be Avoided"
While it's true that the #2 character in Marvel may not be as strong as the #2 character in DC, it's also obvious that Marvel is not DC. Cross-overs have had strange outcomes. Does Living Tribunal get powered-up or Michael get powered-down, or do the companies agree to keep the same power levels? Does Marvel retaliate with a new character creation even stronger? Does DC?
I have to refer back to the will of the writers. It's fiction, and fiction is fickle. Even barring the future, which Living Tribunal? Which Michael? Which timeline or universe? What plot? Prep? And comic books enter that peculiar thing called "destiny," where when all is said and done, the winner doesn't necessarily have to be the strongest.
