THe LT vs. Micheal the Arc Angel

Started by Thanos_THOTU62 pages

Let me put it this way:
The Living Tribunal has "99 power" in all the universes.
When he's in the 616 he has 99 when he's in the Ultimate he has 99.
Now Thanos had 100 in the 616.

michael > spectre
spectre = LT
LT < michael




The IG is so universal its not even funny.

Originally posted by Mr Master
Magus with an INCOMPLETE Infinity Gauntlet had Total CONTROL of TWO Universes,

and he himself was in a Universe separated from these TWO Universes he was Totally Controlling!

"My TAKEOVER of your ACTUALITY, USING my now missing Cosmic Containment Units, [B]would have taken Hours to Accomplish"

"Other matters have a higher priority now, such as MAKING your Universe MINE"

With his INCOMPLETE IG, Magus MERGED TWO Universes in an INSTANT. [/B]

Your ignoring the scan Mr. M, as I said prior, the IG has the power to affect reality outside of its own, but is it more powerful then the sum of any 1 universe? No This has never been shown to be, and is speculation on your part.

The Scan of Richards shows that the IG is universal, and other realities have shown that they have their own IG.

The IG is a universal artifact, 1 per universe, it can affect reality outside of its own, but in raw power does it surpass the summation of raw power of any 1 universe? No.

And as stated before, the HOTU gave Thanos the power of exactly 1 universe, as Thanos comments on the infinite other purple spheres around him (universes) when he was now amidst them.

He became a universe just as the rest, in the flow of ininite above, and oblivion before; just as it was shown when Doc Strange saw the 616 universe drifting towards oblivion, the same purple spheres.

That's an INCOMPLETE IG 🙂

Now what'da ya thinks? swank

Originally posted by Thanos_THOTU
Let me put it this way:
The Living Tribunal has "99 power" in all the universes.
When he's in the 616 he has 99 when he's in the Ultimate he has 99.
Now Thanos had 100 in the 616.

Pure speculation, no scans or on panel evidence to back it up what so ever.

Originally posted by Mr Master
That's an INCOMPLETE IG 🙂

Now what'da ya thinks? ~swamk~

Ive seen all these scans and comics before, my post still stand valid.

Originally posted by Thanos_THOTU
Lucifer + Michael = Universe
Living Tribunal + Silver Surfer = Universe

Silver Surfer #31

Originally posted by guy222
Silver Surfer #31

your point?

Saying that TOAA is LT's boss is meaningless in this debate Guy.

Originally posted by Board Walker
your point?

Saying that TOAA is LT's boss is meaningless in this debate Guy.

I have said always. God embarassed Thanos. He wouldn't embarass his creation. Living Tribunal serves his master. He's granted those very powers for a reason. To safeguard the Multiverse. He will always exist. No one in Marvel comes close. Powerful things come and go, Living Tribunal stays.

Originally posted by guy222
I have said always. God embarassed Thanos. He wouldn't embarass his creation. Living Tribunal serves his master. He's granted those very powers for a reason. To safeguard the Multiverse. He will always exist. No one in Marvel comes close. Powerful things come and go, Living Tribunal stays.

I understand what you are saying, and in reality, real life, I agree with you, for I know what you are speaking of; I understand.

But on these comic forums, things work differently, and using that reasoning to give one a win over another, has no weight here.

Michael the archangel over came Lucifer in the War in heaven because Jesus Christ was with Him and would not allow him to lose; it was to teach both of them a lesson.

I know what you speak of.

An INCOMPLETE IG MERGED Two Universes,

the 616 Universe and a Duplicate 616 Universe.

Two WHOLE Universes.

What the hell you mean the IG isn't Multiversal?

Originally posted by Board Walker
I understand what you are saying, and in reality, real life, I agree with you, for I know what you are speaking of; I understand.

But on these comic forums, things work differently, and using that reasoning to give one a win over another, has no weight here.

Michael the archangel over came Lucifer in the War in heaven because Jesus Christ was with Him and would not allow him to lose; it was to teach both of them a lesson.

I know what you speak of.

I agree with u 👆

Originally posted by Mr Master
An INCOMPLETE IG MERGED Two Universes,

the 616 Universe and a Duplicate 616 Universe.

Two WHOLE Universes.

What the hell you mean the IG isn't Multiversal?

Its the same, as the incomplete UN being able to nullify others from different universes and realities.

I acknowledge the IG can affect outside of its own reality and universe, but is its raw power greater then the entire summation of 1 universe? No.

Thanos with the HOTU which made him an entire universe, and he was fully sentient, was able to use that power and defeat the LT.

The embodiment of Eternity isn't the summation of the Universe it self, as this was shown as Eternity can manifest in itself (the purple spheres), but it isn't the summation of the power of that sphere, as Thanos showed when he dispatched it; Eternity is the consciousness and sentience of a sphere.

My point is, the IG can affect outside of its own reality, but its power is not greater then the summation of 1 universe in raw power.

LT > IG

HOTU (1 exact universe) > LT

That is my point.

And your drifting from the topic of this thread.

It all makes sense now. When Thanos took eternitys place he thought he was the sizznaz which is entirely accpetable considering Ig=universal. This would also explain why there are more than one gauntlets in other unvirses. It also explains why eternity said if he was in his totality he would own warlock with the Ig.

Originally posted by Mordum
It all makes sense now. When Thanos took eternitys place he thought he was the sizznaz which is entirely accpetable considering Ig=universal. This would also explain why there are more than one gauntlets in other unvirses. It also explains why eternity said if he was in his totality he would own warlock with the Ig.

Yes !

I'm putting my vote in for Michael.

Originally posted by Board Walker
Its the same, as the incomplete UN being able to nullify others from different universes and realities.

I acknowledge the IG can affect outside of its own reality and universe, but is its raw power greater then the entire summation of 1 universe? No.

In other words you're Willfully ignoring On Panel Art and Character statements?

On Panel an INCOMPLETE IG was Controlling and Merged TWO WHOLE Universes,

but you will Still say that a COMPLETE IG is not greater than 1 Universe?

hum

Originally posted by Board Walker
Thanos with the HOTU which made him an entire universe, and he was fully sentient, was able to use that power and defeat the LT.

This the last time I tell you,

cause right about now you're just being intransigent.

THOTI is the Power of TOAA!!!

TOAA only allowed Thanos to use his Omniversal destroying power in that Limited area.

It had NOTHING to do with the Size or Power of the "Universe or Multiverse", which ever you prefer.

UNDERSTAND?

Originally posted by Board Walker
My point is, the IG can affect outside of its own reality, but its power is not greater then the summation of 1 universe in raw power.

LT > IG

HOTU (1 exact universe) > LT

That is my point.

And your drifting from the topic of this thread.

hysterical2

seriously,

Read more Comics friend.

Originally posted by Mordum
It all makes sense now. When Thanos took eternitys place he thought he was the sizznaz which is entirely accpetable considering Ig=universal.

Thanos only wanted ONE Universe, so that theory doesn't work.

Originally posted by Mordum
This would also explain why there are more than one gauntlets in other unvirses.

Prove there are more Gauntlets besides the TWO What If Comic books.

I don't really take What ifs that seriously but, other than those TWO Realities that DIVERGED from the 616 Universe, I bet you got none.

Please, show these other IGs.

Originally posted by Mordum
[QUOTE=8386947]Originally posted by Mordum
[B] It also explains why eternity said if he was in his totality he would own warlock with the Ig.

Eternity owning Thanos IG

"Thanos has now USURPEP Eternity's rightful position as the CENTER of ALL REALITY"

oops,

that's Thanos OWNING Eternity, plus becoming the Universe, which is all he wanted.

The Living Tribunal holding the embodiments of TWO Megaverses in one Hand.

Each Megaverse, is a COLLECTION of MULTIVERSES!!!

"he sits at the CENTER of ALL things, feeling the flow of countless Realities, their FATE irrevocably determined through the judgment rendered by HIS Three Faces"

"Two SIBLINGS whom the Tribunal has a place for in HIS great scheme of things"

"the Pulse of Creation reverberates through him, for he is its Heart, ALPHA & OMEGA revolve on the Wheel of Destiny, a Destiny SPUN by HIS mighty Hand"

"A Hand soon opening to allow TWO Brothers to assume their pre-destined Roles as Architects of New Realities ... and ONLY this Judge knows why"

Nuff said.