THe LT vs. Micheal the Arc Angel

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Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
Actually IN DC, Michael, the source, and Even Sometimes mr mxy, have shown to be superior. And yes Spectre is equal to the LT but that does not mean if The LT were in DC he would be 2nd to the presence.

There are pleny of characters that can destroy the Marvel Omniverse, Mr Master listed about seven of them allready, of course the Living Tribunal who is second only to the supreme can do the same.
So no, you cannot trump him in features.

Originally posted by bloodoverme
this is not about the bible

Logic? answer this with logic: Can an omnipotent being create an object so heavy that the being itself cannot lift it?

Your talking about comics blood -_-

Marvel = DC

TOAA = Presence

Marvel - TOAA = DC - Presence

Second to Presence = Living Tribunal -- and so forth.

LT may be the multiversal judge, but that does not mean his power is multiversal.

LT exists in ALL multiverses.

Universal affairs are beneath him.

That's why, once Warlock got the Infinity Gauntlet, he had to act.

If the BS you're spouting out is right, LT both intervened in a simple universal matter and was defeated by something WEAKER than the Infinity Gauntlet.

So, please....show me how exactly a being who is said to exist in all multiverses, can hold clusters of them in his hand, only gets involved in threats to the multiverse and >> both the UN and IG (multiversal artifacts) is weaker than a simple universal power?

Originally posted by Nikkolas
LT exists in ALL multiverses.

Universal affairs are beneath him.

That's why, once Warlock got the Infinity Gauntlet, he had to act.

If the BS you're spouting out is right, LT both intervened in a simple universal matter and was defeated by something WEAKER than the Infinity Gauntlet.

So, please....show me how exactly a being who is said to exist in all multiverses, can hold clusters of them in his hand, only gets involved in threats to the multiverse and >> both the UN and IG (multiversal artifacts) is weaker than a simple universal power?

The point is, regardless of all that the LT is claimed to be on panel, on panel showings have more weight.

He was defeated by the HOTU which was extremely limited to that of making Thanos a universe and only a universe, and even if it made Thanos a multiverse (which is a stretch, because universe is mentioned 9+ times in the arc while multiverse is mentioned 0 times) then the LT was defeated by the power which made Thanos a multiverse and nothing more.

So regardless what it comes to down to is one of the following two:

Universe>LT
Multiverse>LT

The evidence of the arc itself suggest universe, but from past showings such as the IG where eternity was subject to the LT, I'm going to say that it likely made Thanos a multiverse, which would explain the purple spheres he became exactly like (other multiverses).

So Multiverse>LT

Thats my argument and my point.

Michael.

Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
Actually IN DC, Michael, the source, and Even Sometimes mr mxy, have shown to be superior. And yes Spectre is equal to the LT but that does not mean if The LT were in DC he would be 2nd to the presence.

That's why we have Marvel and DC. Spectre in DC. Tribunal in Marvel.

Originally posted by manorastroman
this thread is so stupid i had to drive home and **** my wife just to deal with it.

Nah, save her the agony and boredom. 😛

Originally posted by Board Walker
The point is, regardless of all that the LT is claimed to be on panel, on panel showings have more weight.

He was defeated by the HOTU which was extremely limited to that of making Thanos a universe and only a universe, and even if it made Thanos a multiverse (which is a stretch, because universe is mentioned 9+ times in the arc while multiverse is mentioned 0 times) then the LT was defeated by the power which made Thanos a multiverse and nothing more.

So regardless what it comes to down to is one of the following two:

Universe>LT
Multiverse>LT

The evidence of the arc itself suggest universe, but from past showings such as the IG where eternity was subject to the LT, I'm going to say that it likely made Thanos a multiverse, which would explain the purple spheres he became exactly like (other multiverses).

So Multiverse>LT

Thats my argument and my point.


Yeah but he allso neutralized the powers of the Gauntlet, who absorbed all the powers of the Ultimate Nullifier.
And Michael's power's prime feature is creating a universe ...

LT >> IG > I-IG >> UN >> Multiverse

Again compare it to the Conductor from the Matrix, even though Neo had close to infinite power there he didn't stand a chanse against the conductor in his world.

Originally posted by Thanos_THOTU
There are pleny of characters that can destroy the Marvel Omniverse, Mr Master listed about seven of them allready, of course the Living Tribunal who is second only to the supreme can do the same.
So no, you cannot trump him in features.

It really just sounds to me that tho Michael has shown to be superior to even the likes of Beings on THe LT's lvl, and michael is a warrior and the power of God, that you just dont' want to relent that he is superior to The LT.

I agree, Guy you are presenting little to no facts that have happened on panel, but rather it seems more like personal favoritism towards LT.

I like you, but we are presenting on panel showings which have more weight then on panel claim and hype.

Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
It really just sounds to me that tho Michael has shown to be superior to even the likes of Beings on THe LT's lvl, and michael is a warrior and the power of God, that you just dont' want to relent that he is superior to The LT.

Marvel = DC
Anyways, so if there's more than one with God's power that would make DC's God weaker, no?
In other words, TOAA would be able to take on the Presence, the Great Darkness, Michael and full powered Spectre and still wouldent lose.

Originally posted by Board Walker
I agree, Guy you are presenting little to no facts that have happened on panel, but rather it seems more like personal favoritism towards LT.

I like you, but we are presenting on panel showings which have more weight then on panel claim and hype.


7 characters in Marvel can destroy the omniverse.
Now why wouldent the 2nd most powerful in marvel be able to do the same?

Originally posted by Thanos_THOTU
Yeah but he allso neutralized the powers of the Gauntlet, who absorbed all the powers of the Ultimate Nullifier.
And Michael's power's prime feature is creating a universe ...

LT >> IG > I-IG >> UN >> Multiverse

Again compare it to the Conductor from the Matrix, even though Neo had close to infinite power there he didn't stand a chanse against the conductor in his world.

Actually the LT never stood up to the powers of the guantlet. He nuetralized the gems from working together. not quite the same thing. Also the IG has never been shown beating the UN when it was used in a multiversal fashion by the superior mind of Reed. That whole theory is crap becuz the circumstances are not nearly the same.

Originally posted by Thanos_THOTU
7 characters in Marvel can destroy the omniverse.
Now why wouldent the 2nd most powerful in marvel be able to do the same?

Because this claimed 2nd most powerful being "The LT" was defeated on panel by the limited HOTU which only gave Thanos the power of a single universe (or multiverse, depending on how you interpret it), so that means:

Universe > LT
Multiverse > LT

On panel showings > speculation

Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
Actually the LT never stood up to the powers of the guantlet. He nuetralized the gems from working together. not quite the same thing. Also the IG has never been shown beating the UN when it was used in a multiversal fashion by the superior mind of Reed. That whole theory is crap becuz the circumstances are not nearly the same.

The LT never defeated the IG, the LT questioned if it had the power to defeat the LT, which it concluded it did.

But just because the LT concluded it had the power to defeat the LT, does that make it so? No it does not.

The LT judged Thanos with the HOTU and concluded it had the power to take the power from Thanos, otherwise the LT would not have acted, just as it delayed in acting when it questioned the IG.

And look what happened to the LT when it faced Thanos with the power of the limited HOTU (1 universe, or 1 multiverse), thats right the LT was defeated.

Point here, the LT isn't god, nor is he infallible.

Originally posted by Board Walker
Because this claimed 2nd most powerful being "The LT" was defeated on panel by the limited HOTU which only gave Thanos the power of a single universe (or multiverse, depending on how you interpret it), so that means:

Universe > LT
Multiverse > LT

On panel showings > speculation


Living Tribunal > HOM Wanda > Omniverse

So i sense
LT > Omniverse

Not even Michael would be able to beat Thanos with the Heart.

Originally posted by Board Walker
I agree, Guy you are presenting little to no facts that have happened on panel, but rather it seems more like personal favoritism towards LT.

I like you, but we are presenting on panel showings which have more weight then on panel claim and hype.

I am probably Tribunal's biggest supporter. I have read what Michael can do. He has been compared to LT. Possibly better than Spectre. All I am saying, is no one besides Tribunal and Spectre were featured in Marvel vs DC 1-4.

I appreciate the kind words 🙂

Originally posted by guy222
Marvel vs DC 1-4.

Appreciate this: Crossover = Non-canon = 1N574N7 F41LUR3

Originally posted by Thanos_THOTU
Living Tribunal > HOM Wanda > Omniverse

So i sense
LT > Omniverse

Not even Michael would be able to beat Thanos with the Heart.

Thanos wouldn't be able to beat michael either. it would be a stalemate. Tho The heart never did alot of feats. did it destroy the omniverse?