THe LT vs. Micheal the Arc Angel

Started by Mr Master62 pages
Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
Um aren't you the one who said we can't take characters words on panel for it? DS has said the AlE entity was billions of times more powerful than mxy and you didn't want to accept that.

Just like Mxy erased different Multiverses? 😏

With out proof, I'm sorry, I just can't except your claims.

On the other hand,

Unlike the ALE, which was OWNED by

Fate, Darkseid, HighFather, Orion and Etrigen


"Long enough to prevail!"

"The threat of the ALE is forever ended"....."how"

the bridging Dimension between our Reality and it's has been eradicated"

Thanos said he was OMNI-REALITY

and Proved it ON PANEL!

See the difference? 😉

Originally posted by Board Walker
Its part of why I don't really admire him as much anymore, he contradicts himself and is very hippocritical at times when people do not agree with him.

Dude,

after you came up with this laughable logic:

IG <<< One Universe ... hysterical

LT <<< One Universe ... hysterical2

right here

Originally posted by Board Walker
but is the IG more powerful then an enitre sphere (entire universe)? No it is not.

LT was defeated by the power of 1 whole universe, thats the point.

😆

I could care less what you think of Comics or me after this claim you been repeating over and over again.

It's amusing that you believe anyone is taking you seriously at this point.

Originally posted by Board Walker
I know what your talking about to, him completely discrediting Mr. Mxy and his feats by saying what ifs are not cannon;

Well, not only are you full of shit (I NEVER said What Ifs are not Canon)

but you apparently don't know jack about Comics or Characters for that matter.

Yes, I'm "discrediting Mr. Mxy and his feats by saying what ifs are not cannon"

dontgetit

Originally posted by Board Walker
yet a major part of his argument in this debate used scans from what ifs.

More Bull shit

I used ONE What If incident involving Korvac and Death.

Originally posted by Board Walker
Along with him saying you cannot take characters words over on panel showings, yet he was doing the exact opposite here.

See what I mean?

All we see is a Sock with a grudge and an agenda.

Thanos said he was Omni-Reality and proved it.

You're better off copy and pasting everything bigbran posts, as you been doing for most of the thread.

Originally posted by Mr Master
Just like Mxy erased different Multiverses? 😏

With out proof, I'm sorry, I just can't except your claims.

On the other hand,

Unlike the ALE, which was OWNED by

Fate, Darkseid, HighFather, Orion and Etrigen


"Long enough to prevail!"

"The threat of the ALE is forever ended"....."how"

the bridging Dimension between our Reality and it's has been eradicated"

Thanos said he was OMNI-REALITY

and Proved it ON PANEL!

See the difference? 😉

Now your being your old self that I dont' like. ON panel mxy erased several multiverses. I dont' know how you can say that. It shows him on panel erasing, The infinite Earths multiverse, the DCU multiverse and the Kingdom come multiverse. He may have erased vertigo as well. I have to find that book. So that is just not debateble. As far as Fate and DS and them owning the ALE, did you even read it? Fate Used the power of the source and the ALE itself to fight the ALE. No one no matter how powerful is standing up to the power of the source. Also the ALE was like an animal. It didn't show that it was a supreme Manipulator. A few cunning tricks do not tell me that it was all that smart. A dog can do some cunning things to escape and then get caught any way. ON panel Thanos is not shown to be the omniverse. There were other universes that were left once he got thru absorbing, there was also the fact that warlock and death were still alive. being th eomniverse would mean that he obsorbed every single thing. On panel thanos also quite clearly says that he was used to reset THE UNIVERSE. He was not the omniverse.

I'm not even sure that old book with the Anti-Life Entity is even canon. Or maybe just not anymore... or. . .I dunno..

Years after that, Darkseid is still looking for the Anti life. -- Even in the New Gods series that kicked off after that. And the few New Gods series that were after that. When Orion and JKFW came around, they had a completely different interpretation of anti-life altogether.

Mr M please stop posting that ALE sentinent being crap.(This is not an offense)The ALE was never a living creature only in that run.

Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
Now your being your old self that I dont' like. ON panel mxy erased several multiverses. I dont' know how you can say that. It shows him on panel erasing, The infinite Earths multiverse, the DCU multiverse and the Kingdom come multiverse. He may have erased vertigo as well.

I have to find that book. So that is just not debateble.

No problem, I have the scans right here.

Ok, this should seal the coffin!

Mxy and Bat-Mite (the Journey)

Mxy destroys the Phantom Zone

They enter the "real world" but do nothing and leave in disgust of it, 😂

Mxy destroys the 5th Dimension

Mxy destroys Apokolips

HERE's the Big Daddy!!! (PLEASE READ) in Mxy's own words.

"I have had it up to here with these Alternate Universes and Divergent Futures and Parallel Dimensions ... I mean isn't ONE stupid Reality confusing enough?"

"I'm sick of popping in and out of ALL these idiotic, puny-verses ... I've got terrible Dimension-Lag"

Nuff said.

"No more Infinite Earths, no more Alternate Universes, no more pasts and no more futures, no more duperdopes, no more anything"

In other words,

"Hypertime,

Parallel Timelines which comprise ALL REALITY ... the Universe they (the Linear Men) oversee is actually Part of a Multiverse, (Hypertime) an Infinite Realm of Parallel Worlds"

So much for "Several Multiverses"

So much for the "Infinite Earth's Multiverse"

So much for the "DCU Multiverse and Kingdom Come Multiverse"

So much for Vertigo

Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
As far as Fate and DS and them owning the ALE, did you even read it?

More than once.

Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
Fate Used the power of the source and the ALE itself to fight the ALE. No one no matter how powerful is standing up to the power of the source.

Not true.

I challenge you to present Proof that Fate used the Source.

I challenge you to direct me to the issue where that is stated.

Don't make empty claims, it just discredits your word further.

Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
ON panel Thanos is not shown to be the omniverse.

hum

Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
There were other universes that were left once he got thru absorbing,

Prove it.

Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
there was also the fact that warlock and death were still alive. being th eomniverse would mean that he obsorbed every single thing.

That's because Thanos only Absorbed all of Time and Space in the Omniverse.

The Omniverse has an Area Outside of Time & Space, but still within the Omniverse.

That's where Warlock, Death, Gamora and all the Universal Anchors were, and I'm sure others that exist Outside of Time & Space.

Death was going to become Non-Existent if Thanos would have allowed the Marvel to Obliterate itself, then the Oustide as well as the Indie of the Omniverse would have been erdicated.


"for in the Absence of Life there can be No Death"

Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
Also the ALE was like an animal. It didn't show that it was a supreme Manipulator. A few cunning tricks do not tell me that it was all that smart. A dog can do some cunning things to escape and then get caught any way.

To begin with Metron himself said it was INTELLIGENT

When Metron ran out of the ALE's Realm, the ALE was so dumb it threw FOUR ASPECTS of itself after Metron to follow him into his Universe, because it KNEW in advance it could not survive in it's entirety in the EARTH Universe

NOW JUST the ASPECTS and their "stupidity"

The ASPECTS leave Metron alone and head off on some unknown mission

The MISSION:

"The ALE's Negative Polarity does NOT allow it to live in OUR Universe, but it's ASPECTS can"

"So"?

Hmm... It may be "dumb" but it figured that one out.

The FOUR ASPECTS go to FOUR specific Star Systems

WHY?

The "big dumb" ALE sent FOUR ASPECTS of itself to destroy the Milky Way Galaxy, in order to ALTER Physical Laws so it can enter the Universe

Hmm....pretty slick for a "big dumb creature"...

"HOW are these ASPECTS going to KILL our Galaxy?"

"Those FOUR Star Systems on the screen"

"KNOCK OUT any TWO of them and the Milky Way will COLLAPSE"

Not bad for a "big dumb creature" ey....

More Proof that the ALE and even it's ASPECTS were REDICULOUSLY INTELLIGENT.

Now there were EIGHT Heroes, and TWO were assigned to each Star System.

John Stewart with his Green Lantern Ring is very confident, he leaves Martian Manhunter behind entrapped in a Bubble he made, because he felt Martian Manhunter was holding him back, poor cocky boy...

SURPRISE SURPRISE!

The "big dumb creature's" ASPECTS figured out his weakness WITHOUT even KNOWING it.

You asked me if I'd Read the Story.

Advise,

READ the COMIC yourself please.

Originally posted by Juntai
I'm not even sure that old book with the Anti-Life Entity is even canon. Or maybe just not anymore... or. . .I dunno..

You're a true debator Jun,

and you know I respect you as such.

Just show me or point me to where this information is.

Originally posted by Juntai
When Orion and JKFW came around, they had a completely different interpretation of anti-life altogether.

What was it?

And can you post Scans if possible.

[QUOTE=8391303]Originally posted by Mr Master
No problem, I have the scans right here.

Ok, this should seal the coffin!

Mxy and Bat-Mite (the Journey)

Mxy destroys the Phantom Zone

They enter the "real world" but do nothing and leave in disgust of it, 😂

Mxy destroys the 5th Dimension

Mxy destroys Apokolips

HERE's the Big Daddy!!! (PLEASE READ) in Mxy's own words.

"I have had it up to here with these [B]Alternate Universes and Divergent Futures and Parallel Dimensions ... I mean isn't ONE stupid Reality confusing enough?"

"I'm sick of popping in and out of ALL these idiotic, puny-verses ... I've got terrible Dimension-Lag"

Nuff said.

"No more Infinite Earths, no more Alternate Universes, no more pasts and no more futures, no more duperdopes, no more anything"

In other words,

"Hypertime,

Parallel Timelines which comprise ALL REALITY ... the Universe they (the Linear Men) oversee is actually Part of a Multiverse, (Hypertime) an Infinite Realm of Parallel Worlds"

So much for "Several Multiverses"

So much for the "Infinite Earth's Multiverse"

So much for the "DCU Multiverse and Kingdom Come Multiverse"

So much for Vertigo [/B][/QUOTE
You are such a tard. Your trying to use two differnt comics to try and make your point. Your pointless and I see that you will stop at nothing to win. Your pathetic. First of all, When he says no more altnerate universes, that is an entirely differnt multiverse than the parallell dimensions. You do realize that an entire dimension in DC is a multiverse unto itself. So much for your pathetic attemtp to lessen mxy's feat. wiping out the 5th dimesnion is a feat unto itself as it is a greater multiverse than the whole of any and all 3rd dimenstion ominverses. Also you do realize that Apok is in a differnt multiverse as well. It's in the fourth world which is NOT [art part of the Infinite Earths. Your also neglecting to mention that mxy actually went into the real world under his own power, and he erased the DCU animated. So much for you trying to discredit his feat. AND SINCE YOU LOVE TO USE CHARACTER QUOTE'S, CATCH WHAT MXY SAYS, NO MORE ANYTHING. YOU DO REALIZE MXY IS A COSMIC BEING ON A HIGHER PLANE AND NO MORE ANYTHING MEANS JUST THAT. THE 3RD DIMENSION IS A PLAY THING TO HIM.

Originally posted by Mr Master
More Proof that the ALE and even it's ASPECTS were REDICULOUSLY INTELLIGENT.

Now there were EIGHT Heroes, and TWO were assigned to each Star System.

John Stewart with his Green Lantern Ring is very confident, he leaves Martian Manhunter behind entrapped in a Bubble he made, because he felt Martian Manhunter was holding him back, poor cocky boy...

SURPRISE SURPRISE!

The "big dumb creature's" ASPECTS figured out his weakness WITHOUT even KNOWING it.

You asked me if I'd Read the Story.

Advise,

READ the COMIC yourself please.

And yet this creature which was more powerful than A billion mxy's couldn't figure out how to escape from one dimension to the next. So much for your pathetic thoery. It doesn't matter any way, the book isn't cannon any more.

Originally posted by Mr Master
More than once.

Not true.

I challenge you to present Proof that Fate used the Source.

I challenge you to direct me to the issue where that is stated.

Don't make empty claims, it just discredits your word further.

hum

Prove it.

That's because Thanos only Absorbed all of Time and Space in the Omniverse.

The Omniverse has an Area Outside of Time & Space, but still within the Omniverse.

That's where Warlock, Death, Gamora and all the Universal Anchors were, and I'm sure others that exist Outside of Time & Space.

Death was going to become Non-Existent if Thanos would have allowed the Marvel to Obliterate itself, then the Oustide as well as the Indie of the Omniverse would have been erdicated.


"for in the Absence of Life there can be No Death"

LOL when Fate talked about using the cinque of power, he described where each person that he was using was tapping thier power. ANd low and behold he said that highfather AND orion both were connected to the source. he talked about how eachone was connected to more power than even they could tap. Yeah sorry bud. He used the power of the source. He also said he was using DS to tap the ALE's own energy. I just love how you just have to win. IT's getting annoying. Try harder.

Originally posted by Mr Master
Dude,

after you came up with this laughable logic:

IG <<< One Universe ... hysterical

LT <<< One Universe ... hysterical2

[B]right here

😆

I could care less what you think of Comics or me after this claim you been repeating over and over again.

It's amusing that you believe anyone is taking you seriously at this point.

Well, not only are you full of shit (I NEVER said What Ifs are not Canon)

but you apparently don't know jack about Comics or Characters for that matter.

Yes, I'm "discrediting Mr. Mxy and his feats by saying what ifs are not cannon"

dontgetit

More Bull shit

I used ONE What If incident involving Korvac and Death.

All we see is a Sock with a grudge and an agenda.

Thanos said he was Omni-Reality and proved it.

You're better off copy and pasting everything bigbran posts, as you been doing for most of the thread. [/B]

lol your the one who threw a tantrum, maybe you should take another time out.

Oh no one takes me seriously? Thats funny, quite a few are in this thread, a matter of fact I was saying the exact same thing Bigbran was before he even started posting in this thread.

If anything, I, Bigbran, and Nvr are all agreeing in saying that you really are speculating to a grand extreme; "it was the omniverse, shown on panel!"

Yes sure it was the omniverse, just as its not the universe as it was shown on panel 5+ times, and as confirmed in the marvel article that it was a universe.

Your ego obviously exceeds your logic, so yes please keep doing the wonderful speculating that you are doing.

Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
You are such a tard. Your trying to use two differnt comics to try and make your point. Your pointless and I see that you will stop at nothing to win. Your pathetic. First of all, When he says no more altnerate universes, that is an entirely differnt multiverse than the parallell dimensions. You do realize that an entire dimension in DC is a multiverse unto itself. So much for your pathetic attemtp to lessen mxy's feat. wiping out the 5th dimesnion is a feat unto itself as it is a greater multiverse than the whole of any and all 3rd dimenstion ominverses. Also you do realize that Apok is in a differnt multiverse as well. It's in the fourth world which is NOT [art part of the Infinite Earths. Your also neglecting to mention that mxy actually went into the real world under his own power, and he erased the DCU animated. So much for you trying to discredit his feat. AND SINCE YOU LOVE TO USE CHARACTER QUOTE'S, CATCH WHAT MXY SAYS, NO MORE ANYTHING. YOU DO REALIZE MXY IS A COSMIC BEING ON A HIGHER PLANE AND NO MORE ANYTHING MEANS JUST THAT. THE 3RD DIMENSION IS A PLAY THING TO HIM.

Nothing you say has any consequence anymore duke.

When you have proof, come back,

until then, don't even reply.

More advise: Caps aren't going to help your unsupported claims.

Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
And yet this creature which was more powerful than A billion mxy's couldn't figure out how to escape from one dimension to the next. So much for your pathetic thoery. It doesn't matter any way, the book isn't cannon any more.

😆

ALE is only a billion times more powerful in your own mind.

Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
LOL when Fate talked about using the cinque of power, he described where each person that he was using was tapping thier power. ANd low and behold he said that highfather AND orion both were connected to the source. he talked about how eachone was connected to more power than even they could tap. Yeah sorry bud. He used the power of the source. He also said he was using DS to tap the ALE's own energy. I just love how you just have to win. IT's getting annoying. Try harder.

This is why I tell you to READ COMICS.

Fate, Darkseid, HighFather, Orion and Etrigen are all "linked to an Elemental Source of near-Infinte Power"

Just cause they can draw power from whatever Source, doesn't mean Fate used the Full Power of the Source, nor did Darkseid use the Full Equation.

They all tapped into a portion of said Power "Sources" ...

but NONE had the FULL Power of ANY "Source" they were tapping into.

That's like saying,

Giraud - the Guardians of the Galaxy Phoenix Avatar or any other Avatar, uses the Full Phoenix Force because they tap into a portion of it's supposed "limitless energy"

5 skyfathers > ALE >> Mxyztplk

Yeah I bet Darkseid alone could destroy the multiverse ... OE FTW

Really, just ignore him NVR, he is stubborn to the point of not listening when all substantial evidence has been politely shown to him, over and over again.

Originally posted by Thanos_THOTU
5 skyfathers > ALE >> Mxyztplk

Yeah I bet Darkseid alone could destroy the multiverse ... OE FTW

Originally posted by Mr Master
Nothing you say has any consequence anymore duke.

When you have proof, come back,

until then, don't even reply.

More advise: Caps aren't going to help your unsupported claims.

😆

ALE is only a billion times more powerful in your own mind.

This is why I tell you to READ COMICS.

Fate, Darkseid, HighFather, Orion and Etrigen are all "linked to an Elemental Source of near-Infinte Power"

Just cause they can draw power from whatever Source, doesn't mean Fate used the Full Power of the Source, nor did Darkseid use the Full Equation.

They all tapped into a portion of said Power "Sources" ...

but NONE had the FULL Power of ANY "Source" they were tapping into.

That's like saying,

Giraud - the Guardians of the Galaxy Phoenix Avatar or any other Avatar, uses the Full Phoenix Force because they tap into a portion of it's supposed "limitless energy"

And yet you were the one who said fate didn't use the power of the source. You just love to twist ur debate style so no one can recall that you ****ed up.

Originally posted by Thanos_THOTU
5 skyfathers > ALE >> Mxyztplk

Yeah I bet Darkseid alone could destroy the multiverse ... OE FTW

What is intersting is that Orion is listed in that sky father cinque that you refer and yet KMC seems to think Thor is a good match for him LOL. anyway, the story is non cannon and has been retconned. Mxy has already been shown to own the quintessense and DS in world's funnest.