THe LT vs. Micheal the Arc Angel

Originally posted by Mr Master
How many times has 616 Eternity been Nullified dontgetit

Every Other Universe is a freakin What if, well, not counting the Realities that Excalibur bumps into.

Still, it's not easy finding the SPECIFIC example I was looking for.

Also, about that What-If, wasn't the universe still there, even after Eternity was gone. Weren't you arguing against me, because I said that planets/stars sould still be absorbed, after Eternity was gone?

Now you are using something that you argued against basically?
Also happens to be a What-If? Didn't you do a thing a while back on why we shouldn't use What-If's in debates?
Interesting...

Originally posted by Mr Master
Yea, Warlock and Gamora and Atleza were all still alive.

That was after Thanos Absorbed All of Time & Space.

Also, yes Thanos had absorbed all time in space in the orb.

Also, Death could have been there to give Thanos motive to recreate the universe, and fullfill his destiny.

Originally posted by Mr Master
THIS:

"I realized that even She would fall victim to the approaching termination

for in the Absence of Life there can be No Death"

Took place BEFORE Thanos Absorbed everything.

Thanos is talking about the Horror that's coming to Reality.

The REASON TOAA manipulated Thanos.

It all makes sense now,

Why would the TOAA go through this fuss for ONE Continuum?

How can Death Not survive the destruction of One Continuum?

hum

Death was outside of time and space, and that is the only reason (I guess the manipulation was part of it) she survived.

Also, you want an explanation?

What better way to handle a cosmic dilemma than to pass it on an unsuspecting fool?
In order to rebuild, Thanos had to rebuild from scratch.

Wonder Man had f*cked up the cosmic flow of the universe (remember, these events didn't happen in other universes, because of teh What-Ifs, and they all differ), and in order for it to be restored, the universe had to be started over, that was the plan, that was the deal, that was the reason, nothing more, nothing less.

If it was supposed to be the multiverse that was to be started over, then it would have happened, but it was the universe that in dire need.

That is why he was manipulated to only one universe.

The whole reason for the HOTU, was for someone to find it, and see that the universe needed to be started over. Thanos was that person.

Also:

"Universe"

Originally posted by bigbran
There are other universes, not being What-Ifs.

Also, about that What-If, wasn't the universe still there, even after Eternity was gone. Weren't you arguing against me, because I said that planets/stars sould still be absorbed, after Eternity was gone?

Now you are using something that you argued against basically?
Also happens to be a What-If? Didn't you do a thing a while back on why we shouldn't use What-If's in debates?
Interesting...

Ya, and they were still alive. Which is why Death was still there.

Also, yes Thanos had absorbed all time in space in the orb.

Also, Death could have been there to give Thanos motive to recreate the universe, and fullfill his destiny.

The Death scan really has nothing to do with Thanos supposedly absorbing the omniverse.

Death was outside of time and space, and that is the only reason she survived.

Also, you want an explanation?

What better way to handle a cosmic dilemma than to pass it on an unsuspecting fool?
In order to rebuild, Thanos had to rebuild from scratch.

Wonder Man had f*cked up the cosmic flow of the universe (remember, these events didn't happen in other universes, because of teh What-Ifs, and they all differ), and in order for it to be restored, the universe had to be started over, that was the plan, that was the deal, that was the reason, nothing more, nothing less.

If it was supposed to be the multiverse that was to be started over, then it would have happened, but it was the universe that in dire need.

That is why he was manipulated to only one universe.

The whole reason for the HOTU, was for someone to find it, and see that the universe needed to be started over. Thanos was that person.

Also:

"Universe"

Check and Mate! Nicely done BB

Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
LOL we dont' expect any thing more or diffent.

I suppose u will never except defeat.

Originally posted by bigbran
There are other universes, not being What-Ifs.

Yea I know, I added that in my post.

Originally posted by bigbran
Also, about that What-If, wasn't the universe still there, even after Eternity was gone. Weren't you arguing against me, because I said that planets/stars sould still be absorbed, after Eternity was gone?

No, the Universe was not still there.

Eternity was gone, the Universe was gone:

Originally posted by bigbran
Now you are using something that you argued against basically?
Also happens to be a What-If? Didn't you do a thing a while back on why we shouldn't use What-If's in debates?
Interesting...

"a while back" ... you worried about "a while back?"

Are What Ifs Canon or Not?

Make up your mind friend,

You tell me they are canon now your going off topic, stick to the debate.

Originally posted by bigbran
Ya, and they were still alive. Which is why Death was still there.

Also, yes Thanos had absorbed all time in space in the orb.

Also, Death could have been there to give Thanos motive to recreate the universe, and fullfill his destiny.

Nah,

Like the Writer himself said,

it was meant to be the Marvel Universe as in EVERYTHING!!!

"So much so Starlin is writing it as if it were an in-continuity story, even though it's really not. Or in other words, if you've always wanted to read about the current-day Marvel Universe coming to an end, this is your story. But you can still expect the Marvel Universe to be in business come September when this series winds up"

The Editor even points out to STILL "Expect Marvel in Business come September"

Jim Starlin was rubbing out ALL of Marvel, twas why Death was not going to survive,

for in the Absence of Life there can be No Death"

I guess the story changed, and Thanos ended up Healing Marvel,

by Re-Creating it.

That right about settles that.

Yall can continue to debate this all yall want.

Originally posted by bigbran
The Death scan really has nothing to do with Thanos supposedly absorbing the omniverse.

Death was outside of time and space, and that is the only reason (I guess the manipulation was part of it) she survived.

Your opinion, it's respected.

IMO, There was going to be no more Death, because "the Marvel Universe" as in Everything according to Jim Starlin, was going to be destroyed.

Thanos absorbed all of Time and Space in the Omniverse/Marvel (Everything) and left the Realms that were Outside of Time & Space untouched.

This is why Death survived, because there was still Life Outside the Omni-Reality.

Had Thanos not done that, Nothing would have survived, Not the Inside or Outside of Marvel.

Again, this is IMO!!!

Originally posted by bigbran
Also, you want an explanation?

What better way to handle a cosmic dilemma than to pass it on an unsuspecting fool?
In order to rebuild, Thanos had to rebuild from scratch.

That is why he was manipulated to only one universe.

The whole reason for the HOTU, was for someone to find it, and see that the universe needed to be started over. Thanos was that person.

"Universe"

As you wish.

I already posted what the Writer himself said about his own creation.

I have to stick to his word, 🙂

The Infinity Gauntlet made Thanos the Actual Universe in it's Entirety, and Thanos calls that "External Control"

"No mere words can describe the sensation of being One with All"

"I was Everything, Bonded to OMNI-REALITY"

Thanos is in awe of being One with Everything,

as if he hasn't had the Sensation of being One with the Universe before

Thanos BECAME the Entire Universe,

ONE with the WHOLE UNIVERSE with the IG!

"Thanos has now USURPEP Eternity's rightful position as the CENTER of ALL REALITY"

How the hell is Thanos catching an orgasm from being One with the Universe Again?

hum

Is he still arguing?

MM is stubborn to the point of being childish, but eh to each his own, live and let live.

Originally posted by Mr Master
Nah,

Like the Writer himself said,

it was meant to be the Marvel Universe as in EVERYTHING!!!

"So much so Starlin is writing it as if it were an in-continuity story, even though it's really not. Or in other words, [B]if you've always wanted to read about the current-day Marvel Universe coming to an end, this is your story. But you can still expect the Marvel Universe to be in business come September when this series winds up"

The Editor even points out to STILL "Expect Marvel in Business come September"

Jim Starlin was rubbing out ALL of Marvel, twas why Death was not going to survive,

for in the Absence of Life there can be No Death"

I guess the story changed, and Thanos ended up Healing Marvel,

by Re-Creating it.

That right about settles that.

Yall can continue to debate this all yall want. [/B]

Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
That doesn't sound right to me. I think they were refering to the 616 since that is where the comics come from.

I find it funny, that he expects us to obey his views and opinions as though they were law.

We present substantial evidence, and he still rears his stubborn head, calling me a sock, calling you (nvr) a fanboy in the past, and stating Bigbran is just wrong.

Yet he doesn't have the respect to respect our views when I present them.

Originally posted by Board Walker

Yet he doesn't have the respect to respect our views when I present them.

Do you respect his?

Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
That doesn't sound right to me. I think they were refering to the 616 since that is where the comics come from.

Death resides in Every Universe,

Not just 616.

Originally posted by Symmetric Chaos
Do you respect his?

Yes I use to very much so, but it came to the point where he became like Galactic Storm, where any who argue extensively against his speculative opinion, he disdains as a disillusioned fan, or a sock, even when substantial evidence outweighs his feather light speculation of it being an omniverse.

Originally posted by Symmetric Chaos
Do you respect his?

If I were you,

I'd just do what he drove me to do,

Ignore.

I have no idea what he's posting anymore,

Ignore List comes in handy. 😄

Originally posted by Mr Master
If I were you,

I'd just do what he drove me to do,

Ignore.

I have no idea what he's posting anymore,

Ignore List comes in handy. 😄

This is why I don't respect him?

Now do you see?

Even though I do not agree with him, I do not ignore him, I still read his post, and analyze them.

But him, he was beaten in this debate with substantial evidence, by me, Bigbran, and Nvr, so what does he do? He ignores me instead.

I congratulate him though, for presenting a good argument.

May I try to bring this to an amicable resoultion?

Board Walker . . . Mr Master

You are both fine debators. You both can back up your positions with evidence.

However your styles of debate are simply incompatable. No amount of arguing or name calling or even legitamte debating will ever end this.

For now I would like it if you could just stay out of cosmic threads (or make a thread and stick all of this stuff there).

I am very tired now and have to sleep. Farwell. May peace and calmness prevail.

Yea, me too.

sleepyhead

"No mere words can describe the sensation of being One with All"

"I was Everything, Bonded to OMNI-REALITY"

For the Record.

Thanos was One with the Omniverse! 😱

Originally posted by Mr Master
Yea, me too.

sleepyhead

[B]"No mere words can describe the sensation of being One with All"

"I was Everything, Bonded to OMNI-REALITY"

For the Record.

Thanos was One with the Omniverse! 😱 [/B]

Only in your dreams 😎

Sleep well 😄

Originally posted by Mr Master
Yea, me too.

sleepyhead

[B]"No mere words can describe the sensation of being One with All"

"I was Everything, Bonded to OMNI-REALITY"

For the Record.

Thanos was One with the Omniverse! 😱 [/B]

Um aren't you the one who said we can't take characters words on panel for it? DS has said the AlE entity was billions of times more powerful than mxy and you didn't want to accept that.

Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
Um aren't you the one who said we can't take characters words on panel for it? DS has said the AlE entity was billions of times more powerful than mxy and you didn't want to accept that.

Its part of why I don't really admire him as much anymore, he contradicts himself and is very hippocritical at times when people do not agree with him.

I know what your talking about to, him completely discrediting Mr. Mxy and his feats by saying what ifs are not cannon; yet a major part of his argument in this debate used scans from what ifs. Along with him saying you cannot take characters words over on panel showings, yet he was doing the exact opposite here.

See what I mean?