THe LT vs. Micheal the Arc Angel

Originally posted by tiakocom
lol..I'm already there, u need to catch up soon, jus started playin cards wit god lol

I'm with you now. 😄

Check this out I overlooked before,

concerning Thanos and the End:

"I realized that even She would fall victim to the approaching termination

for in the Absence of Life there can be No Death"

No more Death, because One Continuum was ending? dontgetit

Heck no ...

Death rejoices and profits from a Universe being Nullified/Erased:

Eternity getting Erased by Korvac:

"The Eons-Old Stalemate between Eternity and ME has ENDED"

By MY MACHINATIONS, the UNIVERSE shall be MINE"

"DEATH--Korvac's Unbidden ALLY....

"DEATH--Korvac's UNWANTED MASTER"

The Domain of DEATH - there's Korvac

This just about strengthens my case, don't it T?

Originally posted by Mr Master
Perhaps when Thanos said,

"You & Gamora were Outside This Reality, tending Atleza, this Actuality's Cosmic Anchor"

Perhaps he meant "Outside this Reality" which also means "Outside" all Realities.

Since the Realm of the Cosmic Anchor is clearly Outside the Blue Ball.

In other words,

because Warlock was in Atleza's Realm, he was going to survive, because the Blue Balls make up Time & Space in the Omniverse, and Atleza's Purple Ball is Outside that:

And there are many Realms within the Omniverse where Time & Space are meaningless.

I'm still speculating,

but I like how it sounds.

Also, Atleza's realm was the black one (not the best art for it, but it says it).

Also, one of those orbs, are where Eternity and Infinity reside.

So, basically, the second shot Thanos has fired (the bands part), was absorbing the entire orb as a whole.
Because, Thanos had absorbed Eternity, and Infinity, the rest of the orb was still there. He then most likely went on to absorb the rest of the orb.

Death would reside outside of the orb, but still assigned to one universe.

Warlock was in Atleza's realm, and he was outside the influence of time and space (as is the cosmic vortex). He was untouched, as were the rest of the other orbs.
Thanos was aware of the other orbs, but he didn't get to them.

Also, a possibility of the orbs is that:

Eternity represents the universe, while the orb represents Eternity, Infinity, and others that make up the universe.
So basically, the orbs are the full universes.

It makes sense to me anyway...

Originally posted by Mr Master
I'm with you now. 😄

Check this out I overlooked before,

concerning Thanos and the End:

"I realized that even She would fall victim to the approaching termination

for in the Absence of Life there can be No Death"

No more Death, because One Continuum was ending? dontgetit

Heck no ...

Death rejoices and profits from a Universe being Nullified/Erased:

Eternity getting Erased by Korvac:

"The Eons-Old Stalemate between Eternity and ME has ENDED.

By MY MACHINATIONS, the UNIVERSE shall be MINE"

"DEATH--Korvac's Unbidden ALLY....

"DEATH--Korvac's UNWANTED MASTER"

The Domain of DEATH - there's Korvac

This just about strengthens my case, don't it T?

Stengths ur case of what? I have to say that if Thanos had asborbed everything, he would have absorbed even the real 616 which is not the case becuz the writer clearly says the 616 is not involved in any way.

Originally posted by bigbran
The entire place where they reside is outside of time and space.

Also, Atleza's realm was the black one (not the best art for it, but it says it).

Also, one of those orbs, are where Eternity and Infinity reside.

So, basically, the second shot Thanos has fired (the bands part), was absorbing the entire orb as a whole.
Because, Thanos had absorbed Eternity, and Infinity, the rest of the orb was still there. He then most likely went on to absorb the rest of the orb.

Death would reside outside of the orb, but still assigned to one universe.

Warlock was in Atleza's realm, and he was outside the influence of time and space (as is the cosmic vortex). He was untouched, as were the rest of the other orbs.
Thanos was aware of the other orbs, but he didn't get to them.

Also, a possibility of the orbs is that:

Eternity represents the universe, while the orb represents Eternity, Infinity, and others that make up the universe.
So basically, the orbs are the full universes.

It makes sense to me anyway...

This is exactly what I have been saying Bigbran, and MM still disagrees.

Eternity is the universe, but he isnt the summation of the whole universe, the purple sphere is the summation of an entire universe, eternity, space, time, etc.

THanos became 1 full universe, just as I have been stating all along.

The on panel evidence shows and heavily substantiates it.

The IG can effect realities outside of its own, but is the IG more powerful then an enitre sphere (entire universe)? No it is not.

HOTU=1 entire universe > LT

P.S. I read the article MM, and its still cannon that LT was defeated by the power of 1 whole universe, thats the point.

Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
Stengths ur case of what? I have to say that if Thanos had asborbed everything, he would have absorbed even the real 616 which is not the case becuz the writer clearly says the 616 is not involved in any way.

Let's not forget that Article was made before the End was completed.

The theme could have changed.

We won't know till the next Marvel Universe Handbook Updates.

This is interesting:

Backside Front Page:

"Entropy is the Son of Eternity, the Cosmic Being whose Essence Encompasses the ENTIRETY of the MULTIVERSE ... Entropy has enlisted Captain Marvel in a Quest to Destroy His Father, ... Eternity and End All Creation"

After Entropy and Captain Marvel Destroy Eternity, "whose Essence Encompasses the Multiverse"

Epiphany:

"Can't you see he's blaiming himself for failing to kill you and save the Universe?"

Captain Marvel:

"think of all the times you saved the Universe"

"Truth is. the Universe was living on borrowed time"

"the truth is, the Universe did END with a whimper, Eternity didn't want to keep going"

NEXT PAGE:

Captain Marvel:

"If he had, do you think Entropy and I could have bound him so easily?

Or at all?"

"before I crushed him ... his final thought was ... at last"

The Multiverse, in a more recent and Canon Arc, being referred to a "the Universe" ...

Originally posted by Mr Master
Let's not forget that Article was made before the End was completed.

The theme could have changed.

We won't know till the next Marvel Universe Handbook Updates.

The IG would have to be retconned as less than universal. But who knows. With marvel they have differnt lvls of infinite. All of them could be universal and just have scales.

Originally posted by Mr Master
Let's not forget that Article was made before the End was completed.

The theme could have changed.

We won't know till the next Marvel Universe Handbook Updates.

All the evidence that I, Bigbran, Nvr, and even you, posted all heavily substantiates and shows on panel that the HOTU made Thanos a full single universe and nothing more.

And the HOTU defeated LT on panel.

Now the article states that reality is gone, but the point is that LT, Warlock, and Thanos all remember, were there, and it happened.

LT was still defeated and remade by the HOTU, which was nothing more then 1 single complete universe.

As of right now according to Marvel, regardless of how much you disagree or hate it.

HOTU = 1 full universe > LT

Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
The IG would have to be retconned as less than universal. But who knows. With marvel they have differnt lvls of infinite. All of them could be universal and just have scales.

Their is a IG for multiple universes, what ifs, and alternate realities count and are cannon for the omniverse as Roma said on panel.

So their are multiple IG's

The IG's can effect outside of their own reality, but are they in power greater then 1 full universe (a sphere)? No they are not.

HOTU (1 full universe) > LT > IG

Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
The IG would have to be retconned as less than universal. But who knows. With marvel they have differnt lvls of infinite. All of them could be universal and just have scales.

Why would the IG need to be depowered?

Originally posted by Board Walker
All the evidence that I, Bigbran, Nvr, and even you, posted all heavily substantiates and shows on panel that the HOTU made Thanos a full single universe and nothing more.

And the HOTU defeated LT on panel.

Now the article states that reality is gone, but the point is that LT, Warlock, and Thanos all remember, were there, and it happened.

LT was still defeated and remade by the HOTU, which was nothing more then 1 single complete universe.

As of right now according to Marvel, regardless of how much you disagree or hate it.

HOTU = 1 full universe > LT

Well, I think the LT is much more powerful than One Universe. He prolly is as powerful as pre retconned beyonder. But he just seems weak against any one realities supreme power. Or rather any item of supreme power. Eternity is less than nothing to lt and yet the IG take shis place and he doesn't know if he can beat it. He seems to have restrictions on his power. But I do not agree that the LT is less powerful than one universe.

Originally posted by Mr Master
I'm with you now. 😄

Check this out I overlooked before,

concerning Thanos and the End:

"I realized that even She would fall victim to the approaching termination

for in the Absence of Life there can be No Death"

No more Death, because One Continuum was ending? dontgetit

Heck no ...

Death rejoices and profits from a Universe being Nullified/Erased:

Eternity getting Erased by Korvac:

"The Eons-Old Stalemate between Eternity and ME has ENDED"

By MY MACHINATIONS, the UNIVERSE shall be MINE"

"DEATH--Korvac's Unbidden ALLY....

"DEATH--Korvac's UNWANTED MASTER"

The Domain of DEATH - there's Korvac

This just about strengthens my case, don't it T?

less debatin more rollin this is a waste of w.eed time lol..man right now in in another dimension 😮‍💨

Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
Stengths ur case of what? I have to say that if Thanos had asborbed everything, he would have absorbed even the real 616 which is not the case becuz the writer clearly says the 616 is not involved in any way.

Also,

we don't know right now, whether the End is Canon or not conclusively, I'll try and find a more recent article.

But regardless,

the End Feat was,

Thanos Absorbing All of Time and Space in the Omniverse. (IMO)

This is WHY:

"I realized that even She would fall victim to the approaching termination

for in the Absence of Life there can be No Death"

No more Death, because One Continuum was ending? dontgetit

Heck no ...

Death rejoices and profits from a Universe being Nullified/Erased:

Eternity getting Erased by Korvac:

"The Eons-Old Stalemate between Eternity and ME has ENDED"

By MY MACHINATIONS, the UNIVERSE shall be MINE"

"DEATH--Korvac's Unbidden ALLY....

"DEATH--Korvac's UNWANTED MASTER"

The Domain of DEATH - there's Korvac

Originally posted by Mr Master
Also,

we don't know right now, whether the End is Canon or not conclusively, I'll try and find a more recent article.

But regardless,

the End Feat was,

[B]Thanos Absorbing All of Time and Space in the Omniverse. (IMO)

This is WHY:

"I realized that even She would fall victim to the approaching termination

for in the Absence of Life there can be No Death"

No more Death, because One Continuum was ending? dontgetit

Heck no ...

Death rejoices and profits from a Universe being Nullified/Erased:

Eternity getting Erased by Korvac:

"The Eons-Old Stalemate between Eternity and ME has ENDED"

By MY MACHINATIONS, the UNIVERSE shall be MINE"

"DEATH--Korvac's Unbidden ALLY....

"DEATH--Korvac's UNWANTED MASTER"

The Domain of DEATH - there's Korvac
[/B]

The end feat was absorbing a full universe and becoming that full universe as shown on panel multiple times.

Thanos absorbing the omniverse? Thats purely your opinion and speculation.

Is it cannon even though it was a different universe? Yes, because LT is cannon regardless of the universe, and it was the 616 Thanos and 616 warlock, as they still remember as on mentioned on panel by Thanos.

Originally posted by tiakocom
less debatin more rollin this is a waste of w.eed time lol..man right now in in another dimension 😮‍💨

Haze on my side of town.

What they growing out there?

Sometimes your only defence is to just let the baby cry 🙂

crybaby

Originally posted by Mr Master
Also,

we don't know right now, whether the End is Canon or not conclusively, I'll try and find a more recent article.

But regardless,

the End Feat was,

[B]Thanos Absorbing All of Time and Space in the Omniverse. (IMO)

This is WHY:

"I realized that even She would fall victim to the approaching termination

for in the Absence of Life there can be No Death"

No more Death, because One Continuum was ending? dontgetit

Heck no ...

Death rejoices and profits from a Universe being Nullified/Erased:

Eternity getting Erased by Korvac:

"The Eons-Old Stalemate between Eternity and ME has ENDED"

By MY MACHINATIONS, the UNIVERSE shall be MINE"

"DEATH--Korvac's Unbidden ALLY....

"DEATH--Korvac's UNWANTED MASTER"

The Domain of DEATH - there's Korvac
[/B]

Also, there was life, in case you forgot.

Thanos and Warlock were still alive, and thus, Death was still there.

Originally posted by Mr Master
Haze on my side of town.

What they growing out there?

man i dont know..but its the sh.it one puff and u forget your name, I cant seems to puff puff pass i rather puff puff keep thats wat i like lol 😮‍💨

Originally posted by bigbran
You're using a What-If to help prove your point?

Also, there was life, in case you forgot.

Thanos and Warlock were still alive, and thus, Death was still there.

I agree

Also I think MM is defeated in this debate, hes usuing what if's that have no relevance, trying to state it was the omniverse with no on panel evidence, and still denies it was a full universe that Thanos became.

P.S. Excellent work on the scans Bigbran, my hat is off to you.

Originally posted by bigbran
You're using a What-If to help prove your point?

How many times has 616 Eternity been Nullified dontgetit

Every Other Universe is a freakin What if, well, not counting the Realities that Excalibur bumps into.

Still, it's not easy finding the SPECIFIC example I was looking for.

Originally posted by bigbran
Also, there was life, in case you forgot.

Thanos and Warlock were still alive, and thus, Death was still there.

Yea, Warlock and Gamora and Atleza were all still alive.

That was after Thanos Absorbed All of Time & Space.

THIS:

"I realized that even She would fall victim to the approaching termination

for in the Absence of Life there can be No Death"

Took place BEFORE Thanos Absorbed everything.

Thanos is talking about the Horror that's coming to Reality.

The REASON TOAA manipulated Thanos.

It all makes sense now,

Why would the TOAA go through this fuss for ONE Continuum?

How can Death Not survive the destruction of One Continuum?

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