THe LT vs. Micheal the Arc Angel

Started by Thanos_THOTU62 pages

Living Tribunal "Omnipotent", "And no one shares his omniscient perspective"
He's as smart as Lucifer, and probably as powerful as Michael.

Now you claimed that Yewhew =/= Presence

And Michael and Lucifer is aspects of Yewhew.

Originally posted by Board Walker
DC loosely relates to the bible and many other philosophies and religions, the name Michael means "Who is as/like God".

Just putting that out there.


Yeah, and Lucifer means Light bringer / Light bearer ...
But even in the Bible, even the original in Latin God's omnipotence had flaws, the Bible is an old fiction ...

Originally posted by Thanos_THOTU
Yeah, and Lucifer means Light bringer / Light bearer ...
But even in the Bible, even the original in Latin God's omnipotence had flaws, the Bible is an old fiction ...

Its very true, many of those translations cannot be taken literally.

can you people not insult religion........huh.......thanks

anyway didnt the spectre say lucifer was stronger then him and lucifer and micheal are as strong as each other arent they.

Who is insulting relegion? Im not insulting anything. All im saying is traslations get screwed up over time.

the bible is infallible

but anyways, back on subject

i agree with the fact that simly becuse thier is someone above michael, you can assume that he is stronger than him
atleast, i always thought thats waht that inferred

Originally posted by nimbus006
Yes wiki-pedia is an informative site 😛 , however we know he isn't literally god...correct? By that fact we can assume he does have some limit.

That is speculation, nothing has even shown to hint that he has a weakness.

Vertigo is not cannon (this is directed at THOTU), Michael's cannon showings are only in mainstream DC. His showings have been all limitless and top tier, he simply handled a fully blood lusted Spectre as though Spectre were an ant.

LT=Spectre

Michael>Spectre=LT

As of right now that is how it stands, LT has been shown it has limits. The HOTU made its wearer a multiverse, nothing more as it was shown when Thanos was a multiverse he could see the other multivereses, he was just one of them among the countless; the point is that Thanos with the HOTU defeated LT, meaning Multiverse>LT.

This points to that their is likely one LT per multiverse.

DC cannon Michael > Multiverse

this thread is so stupid i had to drive home and **** my wife just to deal with it.

A being without any limits whatsoever is for all intense and purposes supreme. Are you saying Michael is the Supreme being in the DC Universe?

Originally posted by manorastroman
this thread is so stupid i had to drive home and **** my wife just to deal with it.

I agree entirely... at least one of us got laid today 😮‍💨

Originally posted by nimbus006
A being without any limits whatsoever is for all intense and purposes supreme. Are you saying Michael is the Supreme being in the DC Universe?

You have to rememebr DC does not work the same way that Marvel does, even though Vertigo is not cannon is does show what I am speaking of.

Michael and Lucifer both had the potential and ability to become "god" and in the end Michael did so. You might be thinking wasn't it Ellaine who became "god"? Not so, Ellaine is made from Michael's essence, Michael then toward the end gave her his "essence" in doing so she became "god" his literall equal; this is actually shown on panel.

My point with that was this, just because their is a supreme being in DC, does not mean their is only one potential supreme being in DC? Do you understand what I am trying to convey?

Its akin to Marvel as well, their might be no supreme being, just a endless heiarchy of beings.

It is silly to think that TOAA or the presence is the be all and end all of all supremecy untill shown so.

Originally posted by nimbus006
I agree entirely... at least one of us got laid today 😮‍💨
😆 😆

Originally posted by Board Walker
You have to rememebr DC does not work the same way that Marvel does, even though Vertigo is not cannon is does show what I am speaking of.

Michael and Lucifer both had the potential and ability to become "god" and in the end Michael did so. You might be thinking wasn't it Ellaine who became "god"? Not so, Ellaine is made from Michael's essence, Michael then toward the end gave her his "essence" in doing so she became "god" his literall equal; this is actually shown on panel.

My point with that was this, just because their is a supreme being in DC, does not mean their is only one potential supreme being in DC? Do you understand what I am trying to convey?

Its akin to Marvel as well, their might be no supreme being, just a endless heiarchy of beings.

It is silly to think that TOAA or the presence is the be all and end all of all supremecy untill shown so.

I dunno I guess your right. Im done with this topic, its giving me a headache...

Originally posted by Board Walker
That is speculation, nothing has even shown to hint that he has a weakness.

Vertigo is not cannon (this is directed at THOTU), Michael's cannon showings are only in mainstream DC. His showings have been all limitless and top tier, he simply handled a fully blood lusted Spectre as though Spectre were an ant.

LT=Spectre

Michael>Spectre=LT

As of right now that is how it stands, LT has been shown it has limits. The HOTU made its wearer a multiverse, nothing more as it was shown when Thanos was a multiverse he could see the other multivereses, he was just one of them among the countless; the point is that Thanos with the HOTU defeated LT, meaning Multiverse>LT.

This points to that their is likely one LT per multiverse.

DC cannon Michael > Multiverse


Spectres power vaires, it can be from Presence power to slightly more powerful than Shazam.
Depends on who's hosting him, and by how much.

Michael defeated a hostless Spectre.

still it was a spectre who owned hell didnt he as well as heavens armies, look how strong asmodel is on his own yet he wanted the power of the spectre

Lucifer=Micheal>>Spectre (probably more, considering the two times Micheal whooped the shit out of Spectre).

HOTU>>Micheal=Lucifer>>Living Tribunal.

Simple really.

DCU

1. the Presence
2. Michael/Lucifer
3. the Spectre

MARVEL

1. TOAA
2. the Living Tribunal

...the rest is debateable...

Originally posted by draxx_tOfU
DCU

1. the Presence
2. Michael/Lucifer
3. the Spectre

MARVEL

1. TOAA
2. the Living Tribunal

...the rest is debateable...

I agree with marvel. TOAA>LivingTribunal

The cosmic Judge of all multiverses who can hold collections of them in his hand wins over Michael. DC isn't even close to as strong as Marvel in cosmics.

Omniverse >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> all of DCU.

LT for the win