Originally posted by Mr Master
ps. you should post more, I seen you in action in the past.
Eh, I'm more of a "Watcher" nowadays. I've been around here for a while now, gone head up with a lot of the senior members here from AlphaCentauri to Whirlysplatt, earned a few brothers in arms and a few respected rivals. Most of the debates nowadays are either rehashes of old arguments, or degress into pointless beef and monotony, so I for the most part just observe the arguments and voice my opinion on debates that peek my curiosity, but moreso just as a view of what's be said ratehr than taking a side in the debate.
I may dust off the old sword if the right topic comes up.
Originally posted by illadelph12
Eh, I'm more of a "Watcher" nowadays. I've been around here for a while now, gone head up with a lot of the senior members here from AlphaCentauri to Whirlysplatt, earned a few brothers in arms and a few respected rivals. Most of the debates nowadays are either rehashes of old arguments, or degress into pointless beef and monotony, so I for the most part just observe the arguments and voice my opinion on debates that peek my curiosity, but moreso just as a view of what's be said ratehr than taking a side in the debate.I may dust off the old sword if the right topic comes up.
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Thanos said that the people he had just killed had went to Oblivion. So... LT and Eternity were actually in the same place as Thanos?
Originally posted by Mr Master
Where ever there is Nothingness, there is Oblivion.
this is a pradox. 😄 if people thanos killed "GO" to oblivion then they are "IN" oblivion. However if they are "IN" oblivion then it is no longer oblivion because it no longer follows the definition, "wherever there is nothingness there is oblivion", since they "EXIST INSIDE" it. 😛
Originally posted by Board Walker
The point is, regardless of all that the LT is claimed to be on panel, on panel showings have more weight.He was defeated by the HOTU which was extremely limited to that of making Thanos a universe and only a universe, and even if it made Thanos a multiverse (which is a stretch, because universe is mentioned 9+ times in the arc while multiverse is mentioned 0 times) then the LT was defeated by the power which made Thanos a multiverse and nothing more.
So regardless what it comes to down to is one of the following two:
Universe>LT
Multiverse>LTThe evidence of the arc itself suggest universe, but from past showings such as the IG where eternity was subject to the LT, I'm going to say that it likely made Thanos a multiverse, which would explain the purple spheres he became exactly like (other multiverses).
So Multiverse>LT
Thats my argument and my point.
i agree, and if:
multiverse>LT
then,
michael>LT
because,
anti-monitor=multiverse
spectre> or = antimonitor
michael > spectre
Originally posted by Thanos_THOTU
Yeah but he allso neutralized the powers of the Gauntlet, who absorbed all the powers of the Ultimate Nullifier.
And Michael's power's prime feature is creating a universe ...
this is VERTIGO michael - "michael demiurgos"
DC michael's prime feature is beating the spectre who previously stalemated the anti-monitor after the anti-monitor absorbed almost all the universes in dc.
Originally posted by Board Walker
The LT never defeated the IG, the LT questioned if it had the power to defeat the LT, which it concluded it did.But just because the LT concluded it had the power to defeat the LT, does that make it so? No it does not.
The LT judged Thanos with the HOTU and concluded it had the power to take the power from Thanos, otherwise the LT would not have acted, just as it delayed in acting when it questioned the IG.
And look what happened to the LT when it faced Thanos with the power of the limited HOTU (1 universe, or 1 multiverse), thats right the LT was defeated.
Point here, the LT isn't god, nor is he infallible.
good, good, good arguement. 💃
LT: "...and to determine whether i have the power to."
Thanos: "hmmmm.."
LT: "...i do"
* tries to take the HOTI power from thanos and...
LT: "WTF!!!!"
* after a few seconds
LT: "...so this is what oblivion looks like" 😛
Originally posted by bloodoverme
good, good, good arguement. 💃LT: "...and to determine whether i have the power to."
Thanos: "hmmmm.."
LT: "...i do"
* tries to take the HOTI power from thanos and...
LT: "WTF!!!!"
* after a few seconds
LT: "...so this is what oblivion looks like" 😛
Tribunal is an idiot. Ok. Can u tell me who's granted God's powers? Who is second to The One Above All? Its LT. Read Knightmare 6, tells u all about HOTI. Ask Andy Schmidt like I have about LT. Does the Heart exist anymore? No.
I belive that.
Spectre merged with the Source (Full power) = Living Tribunal
Both second only to the supreme being.
And no, Spectre is not more powerful than a Multiverse because when he defeated the Anti-Monitor he had five of the strongest mages in all of DC as host.
He alone was trashed by the Anti-Monitor.
Originally posted by Thanos_THOTU
I belive that.
Spectre merged with the Source (Full power) = Living Tribunal
Both second only to the supreme being.And no, Spectre is not more powerful than a Multiverse because when he defeated the Anti-Monitor he had five of the strongest mages in all of DC as host.
He alone was trashed by the Anti-Monitor.
Agree
Originally posted by Thanos_THOTUYou got scans of him getting thrashed by the Anti-Monitor while going solo, or are you making shit up again?
I belive that.
Spectre merged with the Source (Full power) = Living Tribunal
Both second only to the supreme being.And no, Spectre is not more powerful than a Multiverse because when he defeated the Anti-Monitor he had five of the strongest mages in all of DC as host.
He alone was trashed by the Anti-Monitor.
Originally posted by Juntai
You got scans of him getting thrashed by the Anti-Monitor while going solo, or are you making shit up again?
COIE was also before Spectre's retcons in volume 3.
I still find it puzzling that people consider LT being defeated by the HOTU, though it's said, or 'inferred', on panel, that it's sole purpose was for it to be used to destroy and recreate the 'universe' (or multiverse, depending on who you ask), as commissioned by TOAA itself, is supposed to somehow degrade LT's standing in the hierarchy. TOAA designated the HOTU with a specific purpose which was carried out, Thanos was simply the pawn TOAA used to carry out the purpose designated for the HOTU.
That's parallel to if The Presence empowered, say, Professor Chimp, with the power to recreate the DCU, and he did so, and in the process of doing so, he destroyed Michael, so somehow it degrades Michael's standing because the Presence provided the means to defeat Michael by granting Professor Chimp the power to fulfill a purpose of The Presence's will, whether by tricking Professor Chimp into doing so or my directly commissioning him to do so.
That line of reasoning is flawed.