Originally posted by Hulk rules all
The Living Tribunal wins because three heads are better than one. Anyways, Michael is only a beast when fighting Lucifer and his lackeys.
We are talking about micheal from the main DCu. You know the one that can beat even a fully powered spectre. You know, The Michael who says out right he can destroy the spectre, ( an aspect of God no less) if he chose to.
Originally posted by Hulk rules all
Well this Michael you are talking about boasts almost as good as Thor. And you know how underpowered and over rated Thor is. Do the math. Michael loses. He starts talking this gibberish and the LT pimp slaps the wings and sword right off him.
Thor is over rated. But that is besides the point. Michael is the literal living power of God. And he's an angel. He doesn't lie. especially to an aspect of God. Besides, He soundly trashed a fully powered Spectre. They had a really good fight for like 3 panels. ANyone who can own the spectre in 3 panels beats the Non combative Lt's pants off.
Well, maybe the LT has been non-combative because his power is so great it does not need to be demonstrated, it just is. Lets say he does this Kali thing and since he got 3 heads he sprouts six arms with swords. Michael had the sword of blue flame but he ain't gonna stop 6 swords coming at him. The LT stops after Michael is shaved bald and his wings forever clipped. Michael runs crying to God who in anger transforms him into Thor and cursing him with a fate worse than death.
Originally posted by Hulk rules all
Well, maybe the LT has been non-combative because his power is so great it does not need to be demonstrated, it just is. Lets say he does this Kali thing and since he got 3 heads he sprouts six arms with swords. Michael had the sword of blue flame but he ain't gonna stop 6 swords coming at him. The LT stops after Michael is shaved bald and his wings forever clipped. Michael runs crying to God who in anger transforms him into Thor and cursing him with a fate worse than death.
Are you Twelve? Stop playing. Most people have already given Michael this fight. it's ok for the LT to lose. he would.
Just cause the majority proclaims a character superior to another doesn't mean its true. Look at the greatest of masters, they were the minority not the majority. And I am not twelve although my intellect sometimes tries really hard to break free the childhood exuberance that some call the greatest blessing of all. Anyways. the LT wins hands down, thumbs up.
Oh, Michael is the angel of truth. He sees the LT and knows he will lose and gives up without fighting. The LT wins again without needing to do anything. That is the ultimate power I do believe. To affect without appearing to do a thing. That is mastery.
Originally posted by Mr Master
Nothing short of the Presence can defeat LT.Second to the Presence stalemates LT.
Now if Michael truly has the power of the Presence,
then Michael is a character with no substance or identity,
and yes he's forced to win.
Just like Aunt May would defeat the LT with TOAA's power.
Michael doesn't have any substance. He's just an angel of god with no will of his own. He is the power of the presence. And that's crazy to say nothing short of the presence beats the LT. I bet the GEB could beat the LT and he's not the presence. you guys act as if just becuz the lt can't be beaten in marvel he can't be beaten by someone from another reality. That' is the dummest logic ever.
Originally posted by Mr MasterMicheal doesn't have many stories about him...
Nothing short of the Presence can defeat LT.Second to the Presence stalemates LT.
Now if Michael truly has the power of the Presence,
then Michael is a character with no substance or identity,
and yes he's forced to win.
Just like Lois Lane would defeat the LT with the Presence's power.
Also, he was blessed with this power, just like LT was. It doesn't matter how powerful Lois would be if she had it, she will never get it.
Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
you guys act as if just becuz the lt can't be beaten in marvel he can't be beaten by someone from another reality. That' is the dummest logic ever.
No one said that,
again making statements as though others made em,
when it's YOU who's saying it.
LT is the Second most powerful character in Marvel, TOAA is First.
It's quite logical to say,
the Second to the Supreme Being of any other Reality stalemates LT.
Anything below that LT Owns.
Originally posted by Mr Master
No one said that,again making statements as though others made em,
when it's YOU who's saying it.
LT is the Second most powerful character in Marvel, TOAA is First.
It's quite logical to say,
the Second to the Supreme Being of any other Reality stalemates LT.
Anything below that LT Owns.
NO, your not using good logic. Just becuz the Lt is 2nd to his supreme being does not mean that another supreme being hasn't made a more powerful being. It's not that hard to understand. Michael is 2nd only to the presence, but He is superior to the LT. Just becuz i'm the 2nd strongerst person in my wresting team doesn't mean that i'm equal to another wresting team's 2nd strongest. ur logic does NOT compute.
Originally posted by bigbran
It doesn't matter how powerful Lois would be if she had it, she will never get it.
Anyone with the Power of the Supreme Being defeats anyone below the Supreme Being.
I wasn't being literal when I mentioned Lois.
I presented what's called an Analogy.
It does matter cause it makes perfect sense.
Of course Michael wins if he has the Power of the Presence.
Just like if Aunt May or Lois or Jimmy Olsten had it.
Originally posted by Mr MasterNo, I completely dissagree with this.
It's quite logical to say,the Second to the Supreme Being of any other Reality stalemates LT.
Anything below that LT Owns.
Only DC and Marvel are like this, you really think even the supreme being in Image is as powerful as TOAA? Because I don't...
Hell, when God and Satan were fighting (second to God), they only were tearing apart a world...
Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
NO, your not using good logic. Just becuz the Lt is 2nd to his supreme being does not mean that another supreme being hasn't made a more powerful being. It's not that hard to understand. Michael is 2nd only to the presence, but He is superior to the LT. Just becuz i'm the 2nd strongerst person in my wresting team doesn't mean that i'm equal to another wresting team's 2nd strongest. ur logic does NOT compute.
Your logic is falling on blind eyes.
Get your real world analogies out here.
You have NO proof that Michael is above LT, NONE whatsoever.
I don't care if Michael slapped up Spectre,
I never considered LT and Spectre equals, (I don't compare them at all)
that NON-CANON DC vs Marvel Garbage proves nothing.
(If anything DC vs Marvel only suggests that Spectre is Second to the Presence) as he and LT were able to Warp both Entites against their will. 😆
Originally posted by bigbran
No, I completely dissagree with this.Only DC and Marvel are like this, you really think even the supreme being in Image is as powerful as TOAA? Because I don't...
Hell, when God and Satan were fighting (second to God), they only were tearing apart a world...
Fair enuff,
Still doesn't take away from the fact that LT is Second to TOAA,
and the Second to the Presence = LT.
Considering TOAA = the Presence
Unless your're trying to say the Presence is more powerful than TOAA?
(I don't think you're saying this, but I want to make sure)
Originally posted by Mr Master
Your logic is falling on blind eyes.Get your real world analogies out here.
You have NO proof that Michael is above LT, NONE whatsoever.
I don't care if Michael slapped up Spectre,
I never considered LT and Spectre equals, (I don't compare them at all)
that NON- CANON DC vs Marvel garbage proves nothing.
(If anything DC vs Marvel only suggests that Spectre is Second to the Presence) as he and LT were able to Warp both Entites against their will. 😆
It becomes apparent that you really have no argument and your going purely off of your Bias. If you want to be technical, The spetre is SUPERIOR to the LT becuz the spectre can and has merged with the very presence. An ability the LT has not and cannot do. Also the LT is an agent of God while the Spectre is an aspect of God. He is the Hand of God. I consider them equals becuz they both serve as guardians over thier realities.
Originally posted by Mr Master
Fair enuff,Still doesn't take away from the fact that LT is Second to TOAA,
and the Second to the Presence = LT.
Unless your're trying to say the Presence is more powerful than TOAA?
(I don't think you're saying this, but I want to make sure)
NO. Your logic is REDICULOUSLY flawed. You cannot say that whom ever is 2nd to the presence is equal to the LT. THat is just silly. What if no one in the DCU with powers existed besides superman? He would be 2nd to the presence. Would he be equal to the LT? Hell no. So being 2nd to the Supreme beings does not make one equal in power. Mike beats The LT. nuff said.